#in the books spike also meets fred when the scoobies though. though sadly that one probably ends up being a continuity

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But one very dark and sad thing, if you choose to consider the Buffy and Angel books canon is this:

In the novels, while Giles never meets Fred, Buffy, Xander, Tara, and Dawn do. And they all like her. Tara and Fred in particular really hit it off. As, of course, do Fred and Willow, who meet in Angel the Series (they actually meet before that in the books, which actually maybe explains some things, perhaps: like why Fred thinks to call Willow when Angel loses his soul).

And Giles still refuses to help her when Illyria is possessing her during that plot in "Angel"--because he no longer trusts Angel Investigations since they're working for Wolfram & Hart. And, to be honest, for revenge on Angel--and Fred dies. And Fred, of course, was an innocent. And the sweetest girl you'd ever meet.

#in the books spike also meets fred when the scoobies though. though sadly that one probably ends up being a continuity #error of course. since spike would later meet fred in angel season 5 and there's no mention of him ever having met her before or vice versa #buffy the vampire slayer #angel the series #rupert giles #winifred burkle #illyria #angel #buffy books #buffy tie-in books #angel books #angel tie-in books #the scoobies #angel investigations #team angel #i'm pretty sure. if i remember correctly. anya is probably the only scoobie at the time who doesn't meet fred sadly. because she stays with #giles to manage the shop during 'monster island' dawn doesn't go then either #but she meets fred later in the book 'heat' #man giles really betrayed his watcher training with that one. i can definitely get why some people see that as ooc #but i suppose revenge can drive people to do awful things