#if you go into the norman tags you'll see a lot of cutesy dad norman fanart courtesy of no way home

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who at marvel comics is carrying a torch for norman "killed gwen stacy, abused his son for years, murdered a baby, traumatized peter and countless others for years, literally the marvel equivalent of usa president 45" osborn?

my secret theory here is that we're dealing with a legion of writers who have hit some kind of terrible collective midlife crisis where they start sweating thinking of all the maybe not great dad moments they participated in in their own lives (which probably don't include baby murder but you know) and they start going "was this terribly abusive father REALLY so bad? maybe he DID love his kid somewhere deep inside, and that makes everything bad he did, including selling his son's soul to the devil for five dollars, okay, because he meant well, kind of." and that's why we're in this completely mystifying scenario. can norman just try to kill another baby or something please.

#*replies #norman osborn #i don't think fandom is ENTIRELY blameless here #if you go into the norman tags you'll see a lot of cutesy dad norman fanart courtesy of no way home #because raimi norman has been spun as inherently separate from the goblin #a separate personality who is not the worst dude in the entire world #which is not the case with comics norman at all #but marvel comics currently caters very heavily to marvel movies #so the legion of uwu dad norman stuff is NOT HELPING