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ronniesshoes · 4 years

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2, 4, 5 and 10? sorry so many, i'm curious!! 💛💖- andie

Andie omg hi!!!

2. Tell us about what you're most looking forward to writing - in your current project, or a future project:

Okay so I'm always looking forward to writing conflict - that's where the characters show their true colours, and it's so much fun to create conflict where no one is essentially right or wrong, which is something I enjoy and am very good at. If we're talking a specific scene, I'm dying to flesh out a trembling, desperate Freya begging Jo for a kiss in the locker room after fencing practice (which she has zero interest in, she just sort of showed up unannounced like surprise surprise how hard can it be (also who doesn't want to be backed up against a wall while your love interest presses a blade to your throat?)) in my coffee shop au because that. Is peak sexi

4. Share a sentence or paragraph from your writing that you're really proud of (explain why, if you like)

Actually the entire bookstore au bc it required zero effort but it turned out so pretty!! But something that I feel has actually made an impact on people is a conversation between John and Roger in chapter four of my fic Keep Yourself Alive where John talks about realising he's asexual (it's v long and I'm on mobile so I'm not gonna share). It was very important to me to include an ace character in the first place but when I started writing the scene I realised how much I wanted to talk about the asexual experience as well as provide some comfort for ace-spec people who might need it. I think I managed well, and I've had people come to me and express their gratitude, so mission accomplished! (Also spoiler alert, in my upcoming fem queen au there are TWO a-spec people, one ace and one aro!)

5. What character that you're writing do you most identify with?

I pour my own personality into my characters to a ridiculous extent so I identify with parts of all of them (as I hope most people do). While I have a lot in common with John, I think I identify most with Roger personality-wise, or at least I aspire to be more like him where possible

10. How would you describe your writing process?

For many years it's been quite painful as it's come from a place of lack - it never turned out the way I wanted, if it wasn't perfect then what's the point, lots of procrastinating and painful attempts at forcing myself to write, then eventually getting so sick and tired of the whole thing that I would edit it all in one day, publish way after my bedtime but still not satisfied, then waking up every hour to check for likes or comments, the former of which usually made me more bitter. Now my writing comes from a place of abundance - I'm excited to write, rarely have to force myself, doesn't feel guilty when I don't. It was a long process where I really had to tend to some wounds and challenge some beliefs, but now the writing flows and it's a beautiful thing - and, funnily enough, requires way less editing even after a speed writing than it did when I suffered from perfectionism. Funny old world!

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charrfie · 4 years

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May I ask for Wilfre headcanons? More specifically, I remember that you reblogged my depressed Wilf hcs and mentioned that those go along w some of your own headcanons so I'd appreciate some in that direction. Other headcanons are fine too tho.

Well of COURSE I have wilfre hcs I'm just trying to figure out where to start bc there are SO MANY

It's a fairly obvious one, as I'm pretty sure the entire dtl fandom agrees on this, but Wilfre's forms of self care are practically nonexistent- especially when it comes to his sleeping schedule. He's practically made himself nocturnal; staying up late into the night and waking up late in the day. During when he becomes the shadow version of himself though, he finds he doesn't need to sleep as much

Speaking of things he doesnt need to do as much when he becomes a shadow! Eating also falls under this lack of necessity! Something funny about this though is when Wilfre takes the form of a completely normal raposa (cough cough like Sock cough) all these necessities come flooding back to him. When he gets onto the boat with Jowee and everyone else, the realization of "oh hey! I havent eaten in years haha" hits him and he practically gets through the entire food stock the villagers have gathered before they get to Lavasteam

As for the specifics you asked for though...

Shortly before his shadow corruption, if it wasn't obvious enough already, Wilfre's mental health is completely down the drain. He internalizes a lot of the things he feels, even from Mayor (close friend), Dr. Cure (friends, grew up together), and Cookie (friend/semi-father figure?), which is saying a LOT due to how he used to tell them everything. Of course, him keeping all his inner conflict to himself makes things worse, and leads to his inevitable demise

Art is actually an extremely important thing to Wilfre, more than simply a talent he uses to draw in the book of life. It's also a HUGE coping mechanism for him (we really out here projecting onto characters ✌😔), one that he uses quite often to calm himself when his self-sabotaging thoughts get too loud and his anxiety spikes. His favorite thing to draw is portraits!

Trying not to include too much jowfre in this ask in particular bc I know you dont view their relationship the same as I do but I gotta include this......... while disguised as Sock on the ship, Wilfre finds himself incredibly anxious and upset about accidentally revealing who he truly is to everyone and hurting Jowee in the process. During this time, he desperately wants to draw his thoughts away but he can't, as the persona he's put on purposefully has bad handwriting and an inability to draw (the opposite of himself to draw suspicion away). However, sometimes things get too bad for him and he caves to his coping mechanism, doodling different raposa on Turtle Rock (specifically Jowee haha). He hides the papers some place no one can find them... that is until after he reveals himself as Wilfre. Jowee finds the papers a day or so after the big reveal and gets even more upset about the whole situation than he already is :^((( he wants to throw all the drawings into the ocean and get rid of every trace of them, but cant bring himself to

This uh. Got very out of hand very quickly, and got VERY long but uh. Hopefully this works for now. I have so many more things to include later on some day lmao

#sorry for mentions of jowfre @ the asker i just had to include some self indulgent stuff 🥺🥺 even if it was angsty #i love this emo furry man sm im gonna KISS HIM he deserved better #long post #drawn to life #drawn to life wilfre #dtl #laika answers

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thebootybitchdragon · 7 years

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So, first of all, I am super excited to have found somebody as excited about the clone as I am. I've been thinking about it a lot since Butch posted his video. But, I'm confused, because I thought this was ten years into the future? Wouldn't original Danny be older? Like 24 I think? Aside from that, you guys got some really good ideas about this character, and I've been laughing at some of the comments for a good few minutes.

AHHHH someone else who likes the clone!Welcome friend!!! 8) lmao, I was browsing the Phantom tag yesterday waswas so disheartened by how many people were irritable at all of thedesigns or downright kicking them to the curb. Which, isunderstandable, everyone has their tastes, and I agree that most ofthem are just…..Put Them Back embodiments, but it was still sad tosee so little interest in the Clone.

Because its such a good idea ripe withpotential, both for TUE levels of darkness and for hilariousscenarios. For once (ONCE) Butch has done okay by me.

And now to actually answer yourquestion, lmao: Yes, you are correct, the original concept was Vladfor ten years into the future, with a teenage Danny clone (I do admitthat’s super squick, like Vlad do you have no other hobbies besidesbeing fucking creepy? Go outside and play some tennis my dude.) sincethe video was a part 2 to the original Phantom concepts for the tenyear anniversary. However, at least in the ideas and concepts I’vebeen talking about and personally throwing around, I’ve gotten rid ofthe ten year span.

Because it literally doesn’t makesense.

I have contempt for the officialPhantom timeline bc its so inconsistent, but a majority of peoplehave it taking place over a two year time span, based on the twosummer episodes. (This is something I personally don’t agree with,but I have no evidence to argue it so I’m stuck like a petulantchild grumbling in the corner) and Vlad gives Valerie her gear in S1Ep10, Shades of Grey. I cannot recall if it was specifically statedin canon Vlad was using her to get Danny’s DNA, but I’m trustingthe wiki bc I really don’t want to endure re-watching Kindred Spiritsand D-Stabalized. If we assume that this had been Vlad’s goal fromthe start (something I disagree with and will touch more aboutbelow), that means that he’s been gathering Danny’s DNA for about ayear to two years if we estimate heavily with the nonsense timebetween the episodes.

In that time span, he figured out howto do the cloning, built the equipment, went through countlessprototypes to figure out all the bumps and snags, made severaldecently “functional” clones (Dani and the one he fucking murdersas a display), made the “perfect” one, and figured out exactlywhat he needed to stabilize an artificial hybrid of ghost and humanorigin.

In two years max.

It would not take him ten fuckin yearsto recreate a successful perfect clone. Even if everything wasdestroyed twice and he lost Valerie’s “assistance”. And thereason for that is because he already knows how. The hard part isdone. Once you know how to do something through so much trial anderror, you know what not to do and what you should do the nexttime around. Vlad doesn’t need to re-figure out how to make astable, perfect clone again, he can just get the equipment, the DNA,whatever and just do it.

Which he was most likely attemptingto already do in D-stabilized.

[Edit: I neglected to look on thewiki before writing this entire thing bc I was confident I know thematerial and apparently I need to get a reality check on my ego bc Iwas completely misremembering D-Stabalized. The fallowing should betaken with gratuitous lumps of salt bc I’m salty at this discoveryand also I haven’t changed anything in it.]

Why do you think hewas going after Dani? Why would he want that information of “Whyare you so stable?” if he wasn’t trying again? If he wasn’t at thepoint that he NEEDED to stabilize something? For future knowledge?Please. If Vlad was truly going to make another perfect clone, hewould not wait several months after loosing the first doing literallynothing but tormenting Danny and being an ass, nor until after he’sfigured out Dani. He was working on the Clone project for a long timeunder everyone’s noses in the first place, so who’s to say he wasn’tagain?

I’m saying Vlad wasliterally within inches of succeeding in D-stabalized. That healready had a second Clone ready to stabilize.

[Edit: I was incorrect in thinkingVlad only wanted Dani to learn why she’s stable, he wanted to use herto make another perfect clone. I was close, but not close enough. Iam still standing by my theory, however, canon can suck it. It’sstill at least feasible.]

Hartman suggestedin the video, as I’m sure you know, that the Clone (I call himDaniel bc there’s literally no way he’s not namedDaniel.) has some of Vlad in him. And this, my friend, melds so well with where canon dropped off.

Vlad wanted andattempted to stabilize the clones with Danny’s full DNA, probably soit would be 100% Danny, enough to the point he was willing to murderDani to figure her out/use her. However, after failing to get themid-morph from Danny (failure 1) and failing to get anything fromDani (failure 2), Vlad would be unlikely to try the same thingsagain. I would also like to think he’d also be unlikely to continuing to announce “OI I’M CLONEING YOU” to Danny, but it’sVlad so you never know.

He would be forcedto think of something else.

There is nothing incanon suggesting that Vlad couldn’t use his own mid-morph tostabalize a clone. He never brings it up, never explains why themid-morph is the critical link aside from the fact that it just is.There’s very little info about just how these clones are made, sothere’s no known rules to what could work and what wouldn’t. A possible reason this might not work is that it could function likebody parts or blood types, where you need a match in order for it tobe properly accepted. In that case, however, its just figuring outwhat you need to tweak in order to force an acceptance, somethingprobably made easier to do when you’re in control of the entiregenetic sequence you’re fiddling with.

This would not taketen years to do. None of it would. It would take at most, I think ayear. Maybe two, but that’s pushing it. I also have a theorythat Vlad was being so obtuse in Season 3 was to purposefullydistract Danny, but take that as you will.

This is all of myfancy way of explaining why my personal ideas are set so close to theactual canon and kicking that gross ten years to the curb.

As for my forgotten notion about why Idon’t think Vlad started cloning from Valerie’s beginning was becauseVlad was still mostly focused on Maddie up until Maternal Instincts,which occurs 6 episodes after Shades of Grey. Shades of Greyis only three episodes from Bitter Reunions as well.That’s a pretty small amount of time for someone still (reasonably)sane to go “I liked that kid, I want him to be my son. I shouldclone him.”

I’d also like to state that in the fourepisodes Vlad appears in before Kindred Spirits (not including TUE)but after Maternal Instincts, not once is his main goal Danny.Nor is it ever Maddie, either. Danny becomes a factor in MillionDollar Ghost, however his main goal is still stealing the portal. InReign Storm, he’s more inclined to use Danny than to try to make himhis son, bc again: his goal is the artifacts. In Secret Weapons, Vladisn’t even interested in Danny when he’s dropped in the middleof his lab. Tbh, I can’t for the life of me figure out what Vlad’sgoal was in the whole sibling battle thing, he really just fucked hisplans up himself in that one. In Masters of All Time, his goal wasthe cure, and again, had no problems using Danny as a pawn.

Kindred Spirits is the first place inthe entire series where we see the extent of how far he’s willing togo to get Danny to be his son. The first episode where it’s his maingoal.

I just realized how close MaoT andKinSpirits are, I wonder if Vlad triggered the Ectoacne flare workingwith the ectoplasm for the clones? Hmmm, interesting.

Anyway, the point is: Vlad kept hiscloning stuff a secret, but for how long remains a mystery. Mostlybecause there’s no point in time where it becomes obvious just howdesperate he is to have Danny. Is it when he saw an opportunity withValerie? Or is it after Danny ruins his attempts to get the Ring ofRage back from Pariah by blowing up the ectosuit so he was just like“Well fuck, now what do I do to keep myself busy?”

Getting back onto the topic of Cloneand Original Danny, there’s a second, lesser reason I’ve personallybumped the time skip, and that’s because there would be literallyZero conflict between a 14 year old and a 24 year old.

OlderDanny would kick his ass, trainingfrom Vlad be damned.

OlderDanny would also not be fazed asmuch as a younger Danny as his identity being perverted by a clone.This is because the age gap would automatically render them as beingtwo different people. OlderDanny would not see the clone as himself,at least not fully, because he’s already a mature adult. The clonecould not torment Danny with the fact that he’s him, that he’sstealing anything, that he’s threatening his notion of being andsense of self. Because OlderDanny has nothing to fear about a youngerversion of himself; he’s stronger, wiser, and different enough. Thedynamic simply doesn’t work. This is why Danny could be okay withDani: he doesn’t see himself in her. He doesn’t think of her as aclone, as the doppelganger. Because she’s a girl, she’s younger,she’s different. She isn’t him in his eyes.

With an identical copy, that’s notsomething you can avoid or ignore. Can’t deny that its not your facetwisting into that evil smirk that looks so wrong because itsfamiliar but not. Its you, but its not, and its uncomfortable,its an invasion of privacy, the ultimate identity theft. Its a personthat wears your face, sees with your eyes, speaks with your voice,thinks with your brain, and bleeds with your blood. And yet its notyou.

The closest thing Danny had to this wasDan. But Dan could be defeated. Dan could be made so that he neverexisted in the first place, completely avoided.

Daniel could not.

Daniel’s creation is out of Danny’scontrol, his existence never takes into account what Danny wants orcares, because its done at Vlad’s whims. And that’s the worstpart: the lack of control. To know that an identical yet completelywrong version of yourself exists against your will and you haveabsolutely no control over it is torture, especially for someone whoalready had cause to fear himself once before. Sure, Danny can fightDaniel, suck him up into a thermos, and maybe kick it into the ghostzone to try to be rid of him forever, but he would still existand he could always come back. Unlike Dan. And there’snothing Danny could do about it.

What even could be do? Try todestabilize him? Ask clockwork to erase him from existence? Lock himin a thermos and bury him deep in the ice caps? Kill him?

Would Danny truly be the person to tryany of those?

In other words, the closer Daniel is tobeing like Danny, the worse effect it would have. So its all aboutmaximizing that to get the full potential of the conflict. Dannyneeds a reason to see Daniel’s creation as the ultimate line crossed,the “This has gone too far” moment. Danny needs a reasonto not only despise, but fear his clone.

There are some….problems, with this,and I’ve already used them in my argument: the fact that it another you is too different, you stop seeing it as yourself. AndDaniel is not an identical copy. He has aspects of Vlad in him.There’s a very fine line to be walked, between Daniel being similarenough that it hurts Danny while being different enough to count as adifferent character. The design alone might already doom it. But fuckit, you people can pry my inverted skunk haired baby from my colddead hands.

I realize that this is a very longresponse, and very little of it pertains to what you asked. However,I hope you enjoyed my analysis and my explanation of my personalreasoning. This was a lot of fun to talk about (I can’t remember if Igot into some of the things in other asks or if I’m recalling themfrom a thing I was gonna post but hasn’t gotten to yet. If thereare repeat things, I’m sorry! My memory is v bad.) and I thank youfor the ask!

I also realize that a majority of thisask talks about making Daniel Danny’s worst enemy, which goes againstthe “They slowly become bed buds” ask I got earlier. I receivedthat ask before I really had any ideas of what to do with Daniel, andsince I’m loving this worst enemy idea, the conflict isunderstandable. The friend idea is still on the table tho! All itneeds now is a climax, a trigger, a turning point. Something thatchanges the dynamic to start that “I hate you, but not as much as Idid, and I kinda sorta enjoy your company a little bit.” ball a’rollin.

Fuck if I know what that is tho lmao

#Danny Phantom #Vlad Masters #Daniel Masters #Clone Danny #Long Post

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