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#i will say. everything abt donna tartt makes sense now
waitingforminjae · 2 years
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just watched baz luhrmann's the great gatsby for the first time. never read the book btw and had managed to go this whole time w/out really knowing what happens in it. am processing.
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jonathanlejonhjarta · 7 years
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Plz talk more about Richard Papen and his sexuality thx
i will gladly do that !!! now it was about three months since i reread the secret history so maybe i won’t be able to point out everything in the book but someday im going to reread it & make a post abt it or something. because wow. he is so gay……… 
so look. his descriptions of his male friends are so much more detailed than his description of camilla. if he now likes camilla that much, why is he more focused on describing francis and henry? 
he kisses francis back just because. he lets francis to continue to kiss his neck. they are literally messing around and he is enjoying it. sure, he tells francis to “give him a break” but when francis says it’ll be fun, he doesn’t protest again. like if charles hadn’t walked in on them, had they slept together? i am not doubting it.  
he sees charles as very good looking. he appreciates camilla’s androgynous looks a lot. because she doesn’t look very traditional feminine. because she reminds him of charles??? he likes charles so much tho??? like charles abuses his sister and when richard gets to know this, he stays on charles’ side. like through the end he thinks what henry and camilla does is wrong? because it hurts charles but also? because henry is with camilla? idk that’s just how i see it? if he truly was in love with camilla, he would have left charles? like, if he is so in love with her, then why isn’t he furious with charles for how he has treated her?  
the month where he lives with henry he seems content & happy. or, he is extremely comfortable around henry. they had just met but ? he is so comfortable in henry’s company. i so wish donna tartt had written out richard’s attraction to henry and that he and henry would have been lovers, it starting with  henry saving richard’s life and their relationship developing during the time they lived together. 
and last but not least, “i loved him too.” he hasn’t known henry for a very long time when henry takes his own life but richard actually confesses that he loved henry. he could’ve say “i miss him too” or something but nope. richard doesn’t seem to marry anyone after camilla declined his proposal. okay so. why? i see it partly because he is traumatised after what has happened but he can never talk about it because then he will risk going to prison. = he needs a partner who he can talk about his trauma with. henry is dead, charles is god knows where, camilla doesn’t want him and francis is already married. so he ends up alone with his degree in english literature.  
he doesn’t seem very interested in girls over all to be honest? like on parties and such. he is very fixated by the greek group & especially francis, henry and charles. i don’t know but when i read the book, i don’t see henry’s & julian’s relationship as teacher and student, i think they’re having an affair in some way. this you won’t think of if you don’t have those queer glasses as i am wearing. it is due to those glasses i think richard being gay would be so logical? i know some may only see me as a queer boy projecting but believe me. i don’t like richard at all so why the heck would i project on him. i get why people see him as bisexual and ofc everyone has their own headcanons, but to me it is extremely important that richard papen is gay because i see so many actual proofs for it in the book so it would make so much sense to me?? (not that you need to prove a character being non straight but this is something i have thought of every time i have read the book) 
so what i think we have here is a story with some of the best characters i have ever read about, a case of compulsory heterosexuality and an amazing but wasted potential to get a queer perspective on a story with a fantastic heart wrecking storyline
 for that’s about it & sorry it became so long, i just,,,,its so important to me that richard & henry both are gay !! 
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