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#i feel like those people had very complicated love lives i think a throuple would be fine
elftwink · 1 year
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saw a video about 2 player ttrpgs and one of them was like "this one's about a pretend marriage" and i was like oh? and i looked it up on itch (eyes on the prize, fyi) and it's 50% as of right now and i was like OH? and i bought it immediately & ive read most of it and i am a big fan. and i KNOW that i have friends who would have fun playing it (it's a 2 player or 4 player game; the 4 player variant has 2 fake couples) but asking them is going to be so cringe. yeah we're gonna make up people and pretend to be them and then pretend to pretend to get married and the characters when they start their pretending they're gonna be like "oh we don't have any romantic feelings towards each other this is strictly plot" but then (get this) they will start to develop real feelings for each other. and we're gonna act it out together and pretend to be them but don't worry! we have no romantic feelings towards one another. this is strictly plot. when WE (irl) pretend to be in love it's actually platonic, unlike the people who we are pretending to be to each other. so do you have like 2-5 hours you wanna dedicate to that next week
and the worst part is that's 100% what i want. like i have roleplayed romance before with friends it is literally not a big deal because the whole point of roleplay is that the character ISN'T you. but with a fake relationship the crushing weight of dramatic irony hovers behind me
#i do want to play it though it seems fun. i actually think it would be more fun to do the 4 player variant#just bc like. to me fake dating is all about the audience. the way you act alone vs in public#it's about the drama. the show. having other people to bounce of off in rp i think benefits that#eh. im overthinking it i'll get over myself & bring it up. i at least wanna talk about it to people even if we don't intend to play it#i also kinda think you could use the game as more of a writing prompt than a roleplaying game if you wanted?#like. ideally you're still have 2 or 4 people who have a character they mainly control#and you'd like. co-write a story by hashing out responses to each card (which is the main game mechanic) & writing it down#but you would lose some of the imo more like... silly (affectionate) parts of the game?#because some of it is really about the improvisational aspect of both ttrpgs and the fake dating trope#but i still think it would be really fun. and i have done a lot of text-based roleplay before#so i am biased towards it just in general.#i also think you could probs play with 3 players with slight bending of the rules and in and out of game acceptance of polya relationships#esp because the setting is like. vaguely period piece fantasy nobility. you go to fancy parties and shit#i feel like those people had very complicated love lives i think a throuple would be fine#also We Are Playing Pretend#good idea generator#unrelated but did wtf when did they update the post editor the tags are so ugly LOL
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sporadicfangurl · 4 years
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Michael x Alex x Maria
So, after tonight's episode of Rosewell, I have some thoughts and feelings about the relationship between Michael, Alex, and Maria. Since the episode's airing, a lot of people (i.e. Malex stans) have been complaining about the threesome that took place between the three of them tonight. I read that the threesome and Miluca being together by the end of the episode is somehow an example of "queerbaiting" and a "disservice to the queer community".  I've also read that Maria apparently manipulated and coerced Alex into the threesome and how Alex participating makes him weak or whatever because he's gay and not attracted to Maria sexually and what not. 
First and foremost speaking for myself personally, I don't see how Michael and Maria getting into a relationship is queerbaiting. Going off of the definition of what queerbaiting is; a marketing technique for fiction and entertainment in which creators hint at, but then do not actually depict, same-sex romance or other forms of LGBTQ representation. Michael and Alex are canon highschool sweethearts who we've seen multiple sex scenes and other forms intimacy from and who unquestionably still love each other. Whether or not Michael and Alex every get back together it doesn't change their history or the shared love between them. Now to me, queerbaiting is the ship of destiel (Dean Winchester & Castiel from the show Supernatural) or the character of Stiles from Teen Wolf who although there were scenes of him sprinkled throughout the series that implied he could be bisexual he was never canonically made bisexual.
Speaking of bisexual, for those who haven't been paying attention, Michael Guerin is canonically an open and proud bisexual man and in the event that the series doesn't end with him being with a man it won't somehow invalidate his sexuality. Michael being in a relationship with Maria doesn't suddenly make him straight no more than him being in a relationship with Alex made him gay. He isn't either. Michael is bi and thus he is attracted to and can fall in love with people of both genders as he clearly has. Trying to make it seem like Michael being with a woman somehow takes away his place in the LGBTQ to me is a prime example of bi-erasure and incredibly biphobia. 
I've also seen a few people say that Michael falling for two people at the same time plays into the trope that bisexuals are unable to commit and lust after everyone is wrong as I see Michael's love life to have more to do with his abandonment issues and longing for connection than it does to his sexuality. Max and Isabel being adopted and raised together as siblings while Michael was bounced around multiple abusive homes as a child was certainly a traumatic experience for Michael that left him with all kinds of damage that have affected his personal relationships. He attempts to keep people at arm's length but he always craves love and human connection. According to Alex ( in 1x09), although they've loved each other they've never known each other that well. Personally, I feel like both Alex and Michael were so deprived of love during their childhood that when they found each other they latched onto each other so easily because they just both needed and craved connection and affection. Michael fell for Alex because (outside of Max and Isabel) he was the first person to show him genuine kindness (allowing him to stay in his family's shed because of him being homeless) and them having a commonality and their shitty home lives. I feel like Michael grew to love Maria out of a friendship that evolved into caring that really cemented when Maria's mom was missing. He met two people that he cared for and tried to push away (Alex with the angst, Maria by making out with that random chick at her bar) but deep down Michael does truly want to love/be loved by someone which is why it's so hard for him to push either one of them away permanently. 
Getting to the threesome that took place in the episode; Alex was not manipulated into the threesome. Or at this very least I didn't interpret the scene that way. From my point of view; Alex, Michael, and Maria went through a terribly horrifying experience together that left them all feeling shaken and in need of comfort. Alex had been stabbed (could have died) and in the time it took him to get to his feet probably had a dozen bad scenarios take place in his head about what could have happened to Maria. Maria went through being attacked by an ax-wielding crazy man who she thought possibly killed Alex and watched assault, Michael. And Michael went through believing that he had possibly lost two people that he very much loves (which on the cusp of everything that just went down with him thinking he could have lost Max and very recently watching his mother die in a terrible explosion couldn't have been great on his psyche) and he was hit an ax (fortunately not the sharp-end of it but am sure the shit still hurt). Three people, who are all intertwined in this complex (and really beautiful) relationship filled with connection, history, and love went through this shared ordeal and after everything, they shared a profound moment of intimacy. 
Now some want to say that Maria coerced Alex into it but I didn't read the scene that way. To me, when Alex was uncomfortable about being involved in the threesome because if he felt that way he would have left. When the scene first starts I feel Alex is in this process of shock still kind of reeling over everything that happened with those weird-ass twins. When Michael tells the two of them that he almost lost them and then he and Maria kissed; I feel like Alex was thrown by their intimacy as hearing about two people that love loving each other and actually witnessing it with your own eyes are two completely different things. He initially says that he should go as Michael and Maria are clearly in the midst of sharing a very intimate moment but when Maria extends that moment to Alex and gives him an open invitation to stay and be with them he does.
Now we have no idea what the hell transpired once things went to black. People saying that because Alex is gay this is fucked up and what not and him sleeping with a woman is a disservice to his character and a whole bunch of other things to which I again don't agree with. For one, Alex dick probably went nowhere near Maria's vagina that whole interaction. More than likely there was at most a lot of heavy petting on their parts and all the actual intercourse was involved Michael living his greatest bisexual wet dream out. I don't know. No one knows. The point is that while Alex has stated he is gay, he has also said in this episode that kissing Maria was the first time he ever enjoyed touching another person. He is comfortable with Maria and however a person chooses to interpret their love you cannot deny that there is love there. Even if that love doesn't translate to a mutual sexual attraction they do both love each other deeply. Hell, if Alex was straight they've both made it clear that they'd be married and living happily ever after. It was a complicated situation mixed with high emotions and three consenting adults made a choice. That is what happened. It was all that happened. Alex was raped or forced to do anything that he didn't want to do. Maria clearly didn't want any of them to be alone but if Alex had been adamant about wanting to go she wouldn't have forced him to stay. More than likely she would have probably ended up leaving with him because dammit they started that trip together and her being the kind of person that she is she would have chosen her relationship with Alex over boning Michael.  
The fact that they had Alex (according to himself) say that he had never been in a relationship before during the car ride with him and Maria earlier on says a lot about why he chose to end things with Michael the morning after. While he isn't ashamed of who he is, his relationship with Michael is messy at best and for all the good memories he has with him there are just as many bad if not more so. The night the three of them shared together was probably the most loved any of them have ever felt. It was special but it doesn't change all the messiness between Alex and Michael and I think Alex just needs time to find himself and discover what he likes and wants. In his 20+ years of life, Alex would say that he's dated no one, been in love with one guy, and the only other sexual/romantic moment he's ever felt is with his best friend he kissed once during seven minutes in heaven. Between his father being a dick and all the years spent in the military, Alex hasn't really had an opportunity to figure out what he wants and likes in a romantic partner. Which coming back home and immediately falling back into things with Michael probably hasn't helped. 
This is where I think the new guy with the green-hair comes in. A fresh clean slate that I think will help him discover things about himself when it comes to those aspects of his life. While I definitely don't see this relationship being endgame, I do think it may play an integral part in Alex's character growth and development. Personally, my dream scenario by the series end would be a blissful throuple between Alex, Michael, and Maria. I've never seen the original Rosewell so whether or not my alien babies are meant to one day go back to their home planet is a mystery to me but if not am down with this show taking a page out of Siren's playbook and bringing on the polygamy. Now I know a lot of people will be like that ain't gonna work because Alex is gay but who's to say Alex can't be a biromantic homosexual. He could be sexually attracted and getting his back blown out by Michael while still feeling a deep love and connection to Maria that allows my throuple ship to sail. Don't come for my dreams!
Anyways, I ship Malex, Miluca and whatever the ship name between the three of them would be because quite frankly am down for Michael getting as much love as he can get and the relationship between the three of them is just amazing and wonderful and all my babies deserve nice things. So, that is my stance on it all. Am hoping that this threesome doesn't lead to ship wars or people acting the actors because it's always instances like this that bring out the ugly side of fandoms that I hate so much. No matter what you think of the current storylines going on I hope everyone remembers that everything going on right now is fiction. None of these people exist and with a very real global pandemic going on right now the last thing these actors need is people forgetting the fact that they are not they're characters and spewing hate at them for acting out someone else's vision. They are just characters in another person's story and even if you don't agree with the story being told it's no reason to be a dick. So please don't be a dick to real people over fictional characters. 
(Fair warning and apologizes to anyone who makes it to the end of my rambles. It was incredibly earlier (and or late depending on how you see it) when I wrote this all out thus there is likely a crazy amount of grammatical errors throughout this post. I had just seen so much negativity surrounding my three most favorite characters in this show and the fact that so many people hated something that I loved seeing so much just made it hard for me to shut off my brain and go to sleep. Sorry again for the long post, I would have put it under a Read More tab thing but I don't typically post on Tumblr (as I usually just like and reblog stuff I like/agree with) and don't really know how to operate the site.) 
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