#i certainly would not be worried about trying to stay besties with her either dsjkdskskd

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cleope in their bonkai / faithxbuffy era??? i'll overlook ms plec villainizing the black girl just this once........

Yeah. Unpopular opinion, but I didn’t really mind it. I get what people are saying, but I also don’t like the idea of giving a “ugh, Cleo isn’t an angel, now fandom is going to rightfully tear her to shreds!” pass. To this day I see people talk about how “mean” Raf was, and everyone hate him and Hafael in S1. Fandom is going to villainize these characters if they do anything other than cater to their white faves regardless, so I’d rather have complex motivations. 

Because if this was Lizzie or Josie, we’d be seeing “OMG, KLAROHOSIE/HIZZIE!” and people drawing 4x13 parallels. 

I think the larger problem is they don’t have a fixed WOC, they keep bringing various ones in briefly and having them embody an antagonistic role to varying degrees (Nia/Alyssa/Penelope/Cleo). Kym didn’t stick around very long. They tend to end on a redemptive note, but I see how it might rub the wrong way. 

Still, I don’t like the idea that characters of color and black characters especially can’t be dark, because oh no, they’ll be villainized. I’d rather have a character who is desperate for something and clever and willing to go to great lengths to get what she wants - than yet another Bonnie 2.0, as fun as Cleope was while it was sweet. 

I am a Katherine, Kai, and Klaus stan. Hope getting stabbed in the front/back just does not phase me. 😭 Cleo will still be my girl, lmfao.

#hope almost got the ppl she cares about hurt/killed numerous times while cleo was around #including cleo herself! #i certainly would not be worried about trying to stay besties with her either dsjkdskskd #also to be clear i don’t like the idea that the only way they can give black chrs significance and agency is by making them villains #obviously there are other ways they could go about that #it’s just that at the end of the day i enjoy dark chrs and the tvdu fandom has largely run off them #so.... #+ i’m a strong supporter of female chrs doing whatever the hell they want to achieve freedom! #and i hope she gets it like labyrinth lady and ablah! #💌.inbox #cleo sowande #tvdu op