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#his stuff in hadestown? *mwah*
carewyncromwell · 1 year
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So I rewatched Disney’s The Hunchback of Notre Dame with my mum recently (it’s one of our mutual favorite movies), and while watching it, I realized -- I must’ve really been subconsciously influenced by its interpretation of Frollo, when it came to designing Carewyn’s villainous grandfather, Charles Cromwell.
I mean, just read a description of him -- a cold, cruel, conservative, ruthless, and manipulative old man who is very prominent and powerful in the legal system and is both fiercely prejudiced against Muggles and emotionally abusive, violent, and controlling toward those in his care, while also putting on a controlled, composed, saintly affect toward the outside world. I even imagined Charles having a deep Bass speaking/singing voice not unlike Tony Jay’s, and his appearance -- well, it was inspired originally by Jeremy Irons, but just look at the visual comparison!
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I guess one key difference, at least, is that Charles was never as sexually repressed as Frollo, so his obsessive lust for control is geared more toward his children and grandchildren than anyone else. 
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But yeah! Thought it was kind of neat that one of my favorite Disney villains subconsciously affected how I ended up writing an original character who I consider evil incarnate.😏 
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roadtohadestown · 5 years
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hadestown thoughts n’ things song-by-song
Y’ALL KNOW I SAW HADESTOWN A COUPLE DAYS AGO AND I GOT SOME THINGS TO SAY !!! these aren’t gonna be me fully describing how the songs play out (a couple times yes, but not from start to finish), but are me pointing out little things that i found very memorable or funny or were little “OH SHIT” kinda moments.
(i’ll also be referring to the characters by their actors every now and then)
occasionally i’ll refer to the fates individually by their actual names (clotho, lachesis, atropos); if you don’t know which actresses play who:
yvette -> clotho // kay → lachesis // jewelle -> atropos
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ACT 1
road to hell:
the cast came out all at once and i swear my heart JUMPED when i saw them enter and wave at the audience !!!!
andré came in walking slowly over to his usual spot on stage right. while walking, he was holding the hands of some of the cast who were sitting at the tables.
the fates snapping a sassy look at hermes when he says “three old women all dressed the same.”
introducing orpheus, orpheus is literally a happy ball of sunshine running onstage, holding a red rag and a crate and starts wiping down the tables.
when hermes introduces eurydice, orpheus and eurydice bump into each other at the center of the stage. they stare at one another for the rest of road to hell and it’s so so cute and enchanting. sitting on orchestra left, i was just watching orpheus’s face, so awestruck and in love.
any way the wind blows:
fuck i am so gay for the fates
eurydice’s “anybody got a match ??” and hermes holding out a matchbox to her. she snatches it and says “gimme that.”
eurydice lighting the candle and clotho blowing it out.
lachesis gracing a hand on eurydice’s hair (and i forget at which lyric because my mind is Like That and Forgetful)
come home with me:
eva casually dragging her hand back and forth above the flame, playing with it because she’s not really the focus of the scene and needs something to do while reeve’s busy crumpling a newspaper to make a flower for her
hermes saying, “orpheus......don’t come on too strong”
and orpheus—directly after hearing hermes say that—says to eurydice, “coMe hOmE wITh ME !!!” featuring reeve’s wonky movements that make orpheus seem awkward, which is just plain cute
at one point, he sits on the table beside her
hermes taking the candle from eurydice’s hands and placing it aside on another table. this candle stays lit for a lot of act 1, then is later blown out because we need Metaphors and Symbolism
i love that eurydice crumples up orpheus’s paper flower, then stuffs it in her pocket
wedding song:
damn i love eva and reeve
damn i love this ensemble
damn that flower is red
epic i:
once hermes says “sing it again though” and hands orpheus his guitar, orpheus straps it on. he takes a little moment of silence before he starts singing—like he’s trying to prepare himself first. in that moment, he’s actually just staring at eurydice and smiling because he loves her so much—
livin’ it up on top:
I LOVE THE FATES AND THEIR FANS !!! EVEN THEY’RE SUPER HAPPY THROUGHOUT LIVIN’ IT UP
WHEN PERSEPHONE COMES BACK FROM HADESTOWN, ORPHEUS IS SO GIDDY !!! YOU COULD SEE HIM SMILING LIKE CRAZY AND HE’S A LITTLE JUMPY BECAUSE HE’S SO EXCITED SEPH’S HERE !! HE’S LIKE AN EXCITED LITTLE PUPPY !!! HE WAS SO EAGER TO TAKE HER COAT TOO !!!
orpheus juMP
he was literally throwing a couple silver cups to hermes (who caught them)
there were cute little john and eva moments, with john dancing around her at one point
persephone tried to shove eurydice in with the dancing ensemble to get her to join, but eurydice walked away waving her hands and awkwardly smiling as if saying, “no thanks, i’m not gonna do that,” (but obviously later persephone successfully drags eury into dancing, and she’s wonderful at it)
when hermes said “let the poet bless this round!” ahmad, while holding one of the wine bottles, puts his hands up as if to say “alright, he can do it”
after orpheus gave his speech and they drank from their cups, hermes actually coughed—like the wine was just too much for him asjhsnsj
all i’ve ever known:
persephone’s onstage during the little hermes introduction bit. when he mentions orpheus and eurydice, seph holds out her arms to each of them as he does (as if indicating who’s who) before sitting down at the side to watch the two lovers.
orpheus takes off his apron (finally), revealing him in full with his nifty suspenders 😩💕
when eurydice said “now i wanna hold you too,” she was frantically moving her hands, grabbing different parts of orpheus’s arms
that sex scene was beautiful (IT’S JUST A GRACEFUL INTIMATE DANCE BETWEEN THE TWO AND IT’S PRETTY !! ESPECIALLY WITH THE LIGHTING)
mwah
way down hadestown:
orpheus and eurydice dancing around as everyone sings about hades and hadestown (spoiler: they’re cute)
as hades and persephone descend, smoke comes out of the pit, and the ensemble is leaning in to look down there. ahmad’s in front of all of them—leaning too—but also has his arms outstretched to his sides, keeping everyone else back. they all eventually break apart, and honestly the thing i most remember is just afra with her knees on the table and her hands gripping the edges of the table, too, to peer down into the pit.
gathering storm:
me, watching afra hand eurydice her coat
orpheus takes out his tiny notebook and pencil from his pocket and goes to the side to start writing in it, because he “needs to finish the song”
eurydice clutching her arms as she says “we need food.......we need firewood.....”
“okay, finish it...”
she goes over to orpheus and places a hand on his arm, then leaves
epic ii:
AW HELL YEAH, THEY BROUGHT BACK THE “doubt that she’d ever come, dread that she’d never come, doubt that his lover would ever come back” LYRICS !!
orpheus uses present tense instead of past tense !!! it’s now “he thinks of his wife in the arms of the sun” instead of “he thought of his wife in the arms of the sun” and etc.
chant i:
the workers’ choreo is so mesmerizing. SO MESMERIZING.
reeve sings the la la la’s differently than the broadway preview audio i heard before, and i LOVE how he sings it now. his ending “la la la la la la” leads into the workers’ “low, keep your head, keep your head low” and oh my god i am so in love with that
“is it finished !?” eurydice asks hermes. “not yet,” hermes replies. she asks “is he always like this !?” and he nods.
hermes is now narrating in third-person about how orpheus is ignoring the storm rather than speaking to orpheus directly
i really don’t know how i feel about eva going lower when she sings “harbor me.” in the past she’s went higher; and because i used to hear that all the time, now that she‘s going lower my mind‘s thinking “c’mon, you can go higher !! i know you’re capable of it.” but regardless, eva’s voice is still the most beautiful thing i’ll ever hear 😩💓
the way the fates snatch away eurydice’s backpack and coat is so elegant, yet cool and pitiful
EVA I HOPE YOUR KNEES ARE OK FROM THAT FALL. I KNOW YOU DO IT EVERY NIGHT, BUT STILL.
hey little songbird:
hades casually putting on his shades
patrick’s juicy low notes are to die for
“see how the vipers and vultures surround you” reveals the three fates making their way closer to eurydice
when the chips are down (intro):
the little coin ( / ticket to hadestown ) hades gives eurydice
the way eurydice holds up both the flower and coin in the air as if contemplating which to choose
when the chips are down:
yvette, please step on me
kay, please step on me
jewelle, please step on me
please. step on me.
gone, i’m gone:
shoutout to andré off to the side making all the necessary sound effects.
hermes jingles a coin bag until eurydice comes up and puts her coin (“ticket”) in the bag, indicating she’s boarded the train to hadestown.
cue andré blowing the little flute thing to imitate a train whistle. again, thank u for ur sound effects.
wait for me:
orpheus finally looking up from his tiny notebook with a smile on his face, as if he’s happy that he’s made progress on his song and wants to tell that to eurydice. but when he looks up, he sees hermes from afar instead and (still with an innocent smile) exclaims “mr. hermes !!” before going up to him. (unlike the london production, he doesn’t look around searching for eurydice first before encountering hermes.)
orpheus drops to his knees as he says “no...” during his convo with hermes
the workers shining the lights around like they’re search lights is so COOL
THE FOG !!!
the lights actually swinging over people’s heads in the first row. wow. just,, wow.
FATESFATESFATESI’MSOGAY
THE SET OPENING UP !!! I KNEW IT WAS GONNA HAPPEN, BUT DAMN THAT WAS SO MUCH MORE EPIC IN REAL LIFE
the way reeve jumped off the platform !!! TBH KINDA HOT
i was watching him run along the turntable and it was an awkward little run LOL
“I’M COMING WAIT FOR ME !!!!!” “WAIT” “I HEAR THE WALLS REPEATING !!!” that scene was so GOOD and MUCH MORE INTENSE IRL !!!
i loooOOOVED the way the workers turned their lights at each “WAIT !!”
why we build the wall
the workers retreat to the sides of the stage and hades comes in. they’re so stiff just standing there and singing and i’m like—well fuck.
the saLUTE !!! it’s literally just them putting an index finger up, bUT STILL. FUCK.
eurydice looks around to see everyone saluting, and eventually joins in with them and does it too
the way amber dramatically turns around with her arms swinging about, pauses, then says, “anybody wanna drink?”
ACT 2
our lady of the underground:
“SSSSSSTEP INTO MY OFFICE !!!!” *intensely hip thrusts her way to hell (disregard that she’s already in it—)*
“i got the wind right here in a jar” *grabs her boob and jiggles it*
don’t we just stan amber gray
way down hadestown ii:
andré making the sound of “the pickaxe ringing” by banging a silver cup against the microphone on the stand
eurydice coming through the door and down the stairs. upon seeing the workers, she exclaims, “i’m eurydice !!” with a smile on her face like she’s ready to meet new people, but her smile fades away once she realizes no one’s paying attention to her. “doesn’t anybody hear me?” she asks the fates. and clotho responds, “oh they can hear! but they don’t care,” with a devious smile on her (and the rest of the fates’) face(s). “no one has a name down here.”
the fates proceed to tell eurydice how the workers have all forgotten about their lives before hadestown, and eurydice will turn out just like the rest.
lachesis says, “so what was your name again?” (no response) “see? you’ve already forgotten.”
flowers:
eva’s voice.........SO SAD
how she holds out her hand left hand to the side, as if trying to caress someone’s face who isn’t there.
come home with me ii:
yeah, orpheus comes in from the audience and climbs onto the stage as he says, “come home with me !!” and it’s ADORABLE
he puts his guitar down as he gets onstage (which i’d say is a metaphor for him choosing eurydice over his music)
she leaps into his arms, they embrace each other, and it’s the absolute most sweetest thing ever
papers:
“hades, i know this boy !” (persephone) // “one of the unemployed...” (hades) // “his name is orpheus—!” // “you stay out of this...” // and persephone gives him a look because he just shuts her down, and she knows she can’t do anything about it
as the fates approach orpheus, eurydice extends her arms out trying to protect him
clotho snatching orpheus’s guitar and mischievously examining it
mmmmm look at that fight scene
nothing changes:
ugh, i love that acappella and their voices are SPICY 🔥🔥💯🔥
the way clotho just holds his guitar above him while he’s lying there on the ground, beaten, like she’s teasing him
if it’s true:
eurydice retreating back to the turntable with the other workers, knowing full well there’s nothing she can do, and simply works away like the rest of them
“is this how the world is !? to be beaten and betrayed and then be told that nothing changes—will it always be like this !?” is my favorite
orpheus finally standing and is still in pain from all the workers beating him up
him pointing at each of the workers as he says “i’m asking me...and you and you and you!”
the workers each get up as they sing “we stand and listen” (or is it “we stand with him” ?? whatever, you get what i mean). but orpheus is giving them hope !!! yes !!!
how long:
persephone and hades standing on either side of the pit
they were staring at each other, moving in sync like a mirror; when persephone stepped with her right foot, hades with his left, and so on.
chant ii:
the workers and orpheus slowly rising up from the pit
“is it truuuuue ???” echoing in the back, then hades shouting “it’s the bOY !!”
when the workers say “i can’t look at my brother’s eyes,” afra and ahmad started getting up from the center and refused to make eye contact.
while i am still salty about them cutting persephone’s chant ii verse, i didn’t dislike hades’ new part. i liked it.
as hades shouts, “I CONDUCT THE ELECTRIC CITY !!!!” aLL THE LIGHTS IN THE THEATRE GO OUT AND IT’S WICKED COOL
epic iii:
sitting in my seat was honestly a perfect spot for me. hades was sitting in his stool and his back was to me, so obviously i couldn’t see much of his facial expressions, but it was literally like i was getting hades perspective as he viewed orpheus singing.
the most magical moment in the show tbh
when orpheus first sings “la la la” and hades says “where’d you get that melody ??” he gets up and starts walking towards orpheus like he’s about ready to fight and sue him for plagiarism
but persephone intervenes with a gentle “let him finish hades” before he takes another step. so he backs off.
when orpheus was singing about how hades “saw [persephone] alone there against the sky, it was like she was someone [he’d] always known,” eurydice steps up on the turntable. orpheus is in the center, with persephone and eurydice on either side of him—truly showing the parallels between orpheus and eurydice’s love with that of hades and persephone’s.
hades eventually gets on the center with orpheus, and the platform rises again. when everyone—workers and fates included—surrounds them on the turntable below, singing with orpheus, hades looks around at all of them, angry and confused
at the big “la la la la la la la” moment when everyone joins in with orpheus, the workers each get up in pairs as their side of the turntable finally faces the audience. they step up and remove their hats.
the workers finally make eye contact with one another
REEVE REALLY HITS THAT NOTE. AND IT’S SO BEAUTIFUL.
the way the flower just appears in hades hands after he sings “la la la la la la la...”
you can really SEE persephone crying
lover’s desire:
persephone putting the flower on his vest is so cute
SHE TAKES HIS HANDS
i love hades and persephone ok shut up i’m soft
KIMBERLY PUTTING HER HAND ON AHMAD’S ARM, THEN LOOKING UP AT HIM AND TIMOTHY. JOHN AND AFRA ARE SIDE BY SIDE, HOLDING EACH OTHER AS THEY WATCH HADES AND PERSEPHONE DANCE.
promises:
honestly i don’t remember too much of it visually because i was too busy crying.
i heard “i don’t need a ring for my finger, i just need a steady hand to hold,” and i just started BAWLING
i think i remember she takes his hand when he says “do you let me walk with you” though
“can we go?”
“i don’t know...”
word to the wise:
the fates dancing around hades was just. mmMMM.
his kiss, the riot:
he removes the flower on his vest. (oh, symbolism, we meet again.)
hades is beside hermes as he tells him “let there be one term to be agreed upon...”
wait for me ii (intro):
ah yes. hermes sitting on that stool as it slowly turns around on the turntable.
wait for me ii:
during my show, andré accidentally sang “that is the road to paradise and likewise the path to ruin.” which is alright. we all make mistakes, it’s okay fam 👏
i started crying again once eva and reeve harmonized on “wait for me...i’m coming” and looked at one another
“are we gonna try again?” “it’s time for spring...we’ll try again next fall.” “wait for me?” “i will.”
as orpheus is walking along the turntable, hermes, persephone, eurydice, and the workers are gathered in the center. near the end of the song when they’re all singing “waiiiit for me... i’m comiiiing, waiiiiiit i’m... coming with you” persephone’s holding out the red flower while eurydice has her hand outstretched to orpheus.
EVA JUMP
“I’M COMING WAIT FOR MEEEEEEEEEE I HEAR THE WALLS REPEATING THE FALLIN’ OF OUR FEET AND !! IT SOUNDS LIKE DRUMMIN’ !!!!!!”
it all goes dark as they sing “i’m coming !!!! (coming !!) (coming !!)”
doubt comes in:
IT’S LITERALLY AS GOOD AS YOU’D THINK IT IS
SO OMINOUS AND SPOOKY WITH THE FOG !!!!
eurydice’s following right behind orpheus, but he doesn’t know that. and the doubt and uncertainty on his face is heart-wrenching.
like. the STRESS on his face as he throws both his hands to his head and clutches his hair.
as the scene needs to focus on orpheus and his perspective of feeling alone, the spotlight is taken off of eurydice as she stops walking and lets the turntable turn until her full figure retreats into darkness. the spotlight is fully on orpheus and orpheus alone.
in the dark, three lanterns gradually rise up from the pit. as the fates start singing, their voices are hauntingly beautiful in the scene.
“doubt comes in...the wind is changing...doubt comes in...how cold it’s blowin’...doubt comes in...and meets a stranger walking on a road a l o n e . where is she ?? where is she now ??”
orpheus’s “who am i ?? why am i all alone ?? who do i think i am ? who am i to think that she would follow me into the cold and dark again.”
“orpheus, i’m listening—i’m right here !! and i will be to the end !! and the coldest night of the coldest year comes right before the spring.”
“i used to see the way the world could be...and now the way it is is all i see.”
orpheus’s realism contrasted with eurydice’s optimism just tugs at your heartstrings. orpheus, the once optimistic poet who “could see the way the world could be” no longer has that gift. eurydice, once a realist, has now been given hope that her lover can show her the way.
near the end of the song, the stairs begin to light up, and so does the exit. they’re so close to the surface—they’re almost there. and eurydice is so hopeful. she’s so certain they’ll make it that she doesn’t even doubt for a second that orpheus will turn around. but suddenly you hear a gasp. and you realize in the blink of an eye that orpheus had made a grave mistake. he’s turned around. his eyes are on eurydice, who’s frozen and in tears.
“it’s you...” he utters.
there’s a long silence
“it’s me...” her words are weak. “orpheus...?”
“eurydice...”
eurydice drops to her knees as she quickly descends back to hadestown. orpheus had scrambled his way to the edge of the pit, helplessly on his knees, staring down at where his lover had just been.
road to hell ii:
hermes’ “a’ight” after a long silence just brought me so many emotions. fuck.
as hermes is singing, eventually orpheus gets up and, with no other choice but to push on, continue his way up the stairs (to the surface), slowly and alone.
“‘cause here’s the thing: to know how it ends and still begin to sing it again...as if it might turn out this time...i learned that from a friend of mine.”
“see, orpheus was a poor boy—“ dressed in her act 1 clothes, eurydice reappears onstage saying, “anybody got a match?” hermes is still up front in the center, facing the audience as he holds out a matchbox in his left hand. “but he had a gift to give...” eurydice comes up and takes the box from him, “gimme that.” she sits down on the ground and takes out the candle from her bag, lighting the match, then lighting her candle.
from her pocket, she takes out a red flower and holds it to her face, sniffing it. a soft smile forms on her lips—like there’s some sentiment to this flower that she’s yet to know of—and puts it in her hair.
as the pit comes back up with all the tables and chairs, there’s persephone sitting on one of the tables.
at the end, orpheus returns back onstage with his apron and everything, stopping at one of the steps as he makes eye contact with eurydice. they’re staring at each other, lovestruck, just as they were in the beginning. “we’re gonna sing it again...”
we raise our cups:
persephone and eurydice’s harmonies 💞💓💖💕❤️💞💞
orpheus playing his guitar onstage even though all that shit just happened 😭 i cri
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miscellaneous things:
act 1 was great, but the moment act 2 started i instantly knew it was gonna be my favorite. in the past when listening to audio, i always preferred to listen to act 1, with only a couple songs from act 2. so i always thought act 1 was my favorite act. but finally seeing hadestown in person, i think act 2 probably takes the cake.
once curtain call started, i was clapping like mad. when we got to the ensemble bowing, my hands were already dead but i was like, “FUCK IT, IF MY HANDS FALL OFF TONIGHT IT WAS WORTH IT BECAUSE I GOTTA APPRECIATE THIS ENTIRE CAST”
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