#have someone 350 be considered older because they've reached that category

[ride-a-dromedary]

The thing that I find interesting to think on, is that Halsin isn't wrong about framing himself as old, even from an elf perspective. Not just operating under the framework that he's a survivor, and seems to have likely been the eldest in most groups he found himself in, so it's a habit to assume younger unless informed otherwise (especially considering he's the last of his line, and suffered through the deaths of his similarly aged fellows and elders during the Shadow Curse), and not just operating under the premature maturation that seemed to stem from this, thus him likely feeling older than he really is.

No, he's just stuck in 2e DnD lore (which considering that is what BG1 and 2 utilized, he's not technically incorrect to be, as he would have hypothetically been alive in canon during that period of time - consider it as a generational gap in thinking what constitutes as "old", and how previous generations aged or viewed aging compared to current generations):

(Advanced Dungeons and Dragons 2nd Edition: The Complete Book of Elves, pp. 37 Table 4)

[Info: A chart taken from the Advanced Dungeons and Dragons 2nd Edition Rules Supplement, indicating the age ranges of various types of elves, including Aquatic, Drow, Grey, High and Sylvan. A section of the chart is highlighted in reference to Sylvan elves. Sylvan elves are listed as being considered at venerable age by age 325+]

According to this chart, Halsin - by other elves' standards - would have been considered to be in "Venerable" territory, which is usually applied to those who are afforded a great deal of respect, particularly due to length of experience or age. And Halsin being in this category further informs his physical appearance, as according to the same manual:

"Only at venerable age do elves begin to show their years, yet they still appear younger than most humans do at age 50." (pp. 37)

and

"[At Venerable Age] the elf, at age 350 [on average] or older, begins to show signs of age. Wrinkles start mapping her face. Her physical condition deteriorates still further, but her knowledge and her wisdom continue to grow even greater." (pp. 39)

Which could partially explain *why* he refers to himself as old; by all technicality he's earned the right to do so.

And while the 5th edition of DnD does nuke this specificity of lore in favour of opening the floor to more creativity, and this is by all means technically outdated, it's still interesting to take previous lore into consideration in how it might inform choices and characters.

#BG3 Musing #Halsin Posting #Halsin #i'm just messing around with lore stuff while bored at work #yes bg3 operates under 5e lore but that gets more complicated when you consider characters like jaheira and minsc #were directly in 2e lore in canon which means it informs their existence to an extent #and then halsin astarion and minthara who hypothetically would have *also* been in it should they have been introduced in BG1 and 2 #so i don't think it can be discarded completely because previous lore informed current lore #so if your tav/durge/etc is older than halsin welcome to venerable age territory friend #he's also referred to as 'elder' in the epilogue and while that canon might be a lil debatable i think this may be a case #of actual elves viewing aging very differently than people on the outside do - their stages of life may very well #have someone 350 be considered older because they've reached that category #even if they don't look it to others and may not be considered so *because* they're only about half way through the average lifespan