#gundam wing fans

[idrawprettyboys]

My latest commissioned piece.

#gundam wing #good omens #crowly x aziraphale #Crowley #crowly #aziraphale #duo maxwell #quatre raberba winner #mobile suit gundam wing #msgw #commission #fan art #watercolor #traditional art

[doddsmountain]

Art trade! It’s been a long time since I drew these two

#gundam wing #duo maxwell #chang wufei #art #my art #fan art

[adracat]

G-Witch and The Pacifist Princess

It occurs to me after analyzing the first cour of G-Witch and basking in my nostalgia for Gundam Wing, that Miorine Rembran wouldn't exist without Relena Darlian/Peacecraft. I've been germinating on this idea since Mio founded GUND-ARM but now that ep12 has aired, I'm convinced. How, you might ask? That's a good question.

On the surface, they have very little in common. So much so that you could say Miorine is a deliberate subversion of the Relena we initially see. Whereas Mio is unapologetically quick-tempered, prideful, rebellious, and loathes her father/his business. Relena isn't any of this. She begins Wing as naive, spoiled, and adores her father. She's also outwardly popular and charismatic, something Miorine is decidedly not.

But what do they have in common? Quite a few things as it turns out, and I suspect a great deal more we have yet to see.

The Meet-Cute and Instant Connection

The initial meeting between Suletta/Miorine and Heero/Relena feels intentionally mirrored. Miorine is the one who's assisted in G-Witch but in Wing Relena tries to help a very non-appreciative Heero. And where Sulemio are in space, the latter are on a beach.

Flash forward to them meeting again at school. Suletta is apologetic and submissive, but Heero threatens to kill Relena after she invites him to her birthday party. Take note, all of these events happen in the first episode and establish Relena and Miorine's interest. Miorine is inspired, learning Suletta's philosophy and taking strength from it, and Relena is just a weirdo (affectionate) who's intrigued by Heero but both are drawn near instantly to their respective pilots.

Shared Prominence and Status

Both serve as the princess of their respective narrative. Relena, as a hidden survivor of the Peacecraft family/kingdom, was taken in by her adoptive father in secrecy. Miorine is a metaphorical princess but no less valid considering Delling's king-like rule over Benerit.

We see evidence of this in how their classmates treat them. Reverence in Relena's case and disdain in Moirine's, though for the latter it's clear that her prickly personality plays a major part.

Pacifism

Something that Relena infamously gets flack for is her ideals of complete pacifism. Those who watch G-Witch know that Miorine only adopts a peaceful use for the GUND format second-hand, in place of Belmeria and Dr. Cardo. But what people don't talk about is that these aren't initially Relena's ideals in the first place. She only takes up the torch after her father is murdered in a terrorist attack (sound familiar?), continuing his and her departed biological family's dream of pacifism. And even then, she isn't fully committed to pacifism until much later and attempted to murder her father's killer.

As for Miorine, her intent is noble but undeniably stems in part from her rebelling against Delling and adopting his methods. She doesn't want to follow his path of being a military profiteer. This is the inverse of Relena who adopts pacifism initially as a means of honoring her father. It's insane how much Miorine uses Relena's characterization as a platform before Okouchi places his own twist.

Conclusion

I wouldn't be surprised if the events of G-Witch episode 12 led to Miorine adopting pacifism, not just as a means of revolt, but in response to the terrorist attack upon the plant—and seeing the visceral result of violence courtesy of Suletta.

Now Gundam Wing+Endless Waltz+Frozen Teardrop vets know that Heero/Relena eventually had a happy ending, Relena girlbossing her way through in the process. I'm hoping Mio will follow in her predecessor's steps though it wouldn't be the first time Okouchi decided to throw a wrench in her archetype. Looking at you, Euphemia li Britannia Just so you know, my memory is murky on Wing details so there could be more juxtaposition/similarities and I just forgot.

Until April, I'll be in awe over the show's execution and subversion of a longtime favorite, Relena Peacecraft, and the clever significance of Miorine Rembran.

#g witch spoilers #g witch #miorine rembran #sulemio #relena peacecraft #relena darlian #mobile suit gundam the witch from mercury #gundam wing #when your princess is a pacifist #I am a fan #please get married and be happy too Mio ;-;

[theroboticpizza]

#fan art #gundam #heero yuy #relena darlian #relena peacecraft #gundam wing #mobile suit gundam wing #pizza art dump

[ikuzeminna]

Gundam SEED fans have waited 20 years for a movie.

20 years.

And now that it's finally released it's an animated wattpad fic.

#gundam seed freedom #gundam seed #I'm only kinda in the fandom but I feel so sorry for the fans #UC had an excellent epic end #Gundam Wing got a badass Christmas movie #00 got aliens I guess #Seed gets THIS #dishonor on everyone and their cows

[hosanna9]

Wing gundam,with Nicker opaque watercolor

#fan art #illustration #gundam #gundam wing #wing gundam #mobile suit gundam #mobilesuit #高達

[ivan-fyodorovich-k]

I like a lot of the MS from Gundam Wing but I feel that Epyon is extremely stupid

this, like the Deathscythe and its permutations, is the Gundam of a thirteen year old who shops at Hot Topic exclusively

#gundam #gunpla #big fan of Tallgeese I and II #the Leo is a good one #the Aries #OG Heavyarms #OG Wing Gundam #OG Shenlong #Sandrock is OK #most of the Endless Waltz suits are overdesigned #but I do like Nataku and the Heavyarms Custom

[amplexadversary]

Okay so I get that part of the point of Agnika Kaieru's role in IBO's plot is that he's this legendary, posthumous character that's basically there for McGillis to put words in his mouth. If the audience knew anything about the guy, part of the intended impact would be lost. The whole point is that the guy's latching onto a fairytale and the audience having context would just distract from it.

That said, Gundam is a big ass franchise with a lot of finished stories, that has already entertained the concept of far-future continuations of their timelines (Turn A being the big one).

I kind of want to see the same idea used but with a previous gundam protagonist.

In that case, no one in-universe would have any more context than in IBO, but it would toy with the audience by having a character slander/misinterpret the likes of Amuro Ray for their own gain, or to falsely paint Heero Yui as an upstanding, gallant figure, or similar. It would be a show of dramatic irony where most of said audience has the context to call bullshit.

#IBO spoilers #Gundam #IBO #look Heero is a little shit someone back me up here #problem is I'm not sure if enough of a portion of Gundam Wing's audience realizes this to have the right effect #I've seen some very self-aware Wing fans and some who I wouldn't let read Palahniuk unless they had a heavily annotated copy

[himebushou]

I showed my sister the first few episodes of Buddy Daddies and she immediately said, "Heero and Duo," and I cried because I couldn't even refute it.

So, Exhibit A:

As for the characters themselves? Well...

A closer look at Heero Yuy:

Raised to be the perfect soldier

Ridiculous physical strength and a skilled fighter

Always carries a gun

A kind person deep down (with a soft spot for animals)

Suffering from a frankly bizarre number of injuries and yet manages to function

Is completely destabilised when someone is a bit nice to him.

More on Duo Maxwell:

One of the friendlier protagonists in the show; comes to Heero's rescue only for it to be rebutted

Was orphaned at a young age and had to fend for himself for a fair while

Loses people that he loves due to circumstances outside of his control

Bought groceries at least once.

Their dynamic?

This moment is a pretty good starter.

#buddy daddies #buddy daddy spoilers #mobile suit: gundam wing #someone show me the venn diagram #featuring fans of gundam wing and buddy daddies #kurusu kazuki #suwa rei #guns cw

[danceswithronin]

Everybody loves a good princess carry first thing in the morning. 

#gundam wing #fan art #heero yuy #duo maxwell #1x2x1 #1x2

[idrawprettyboys]

I drew this gorgeous boy on a cheap supermarket notepad! And this is the most fun I’ve had with a drawing in a while. :) I liked playing around with the pencil shading! Drawn while listening to Imagine Dragons.

#gundam wing #mobile suit gundam wing #msgw #imagine dragons #drawing #traditional art #pencil drawing #fan art #gundam fanart #Duo Maxwell

[doctor-orbagels]

ONE SENTENCE REVIEW FOR EVERY GUNDAM PROPERTY I HAVE EXPERIENCED

Like i said in a previous post, it’s basically everything that you can watch on a screen from 0079 up to IBO. A few manga here and there and one light novel.

NOTE: Don’t take this too seriously, most of these are meme answers. Most of my strong negativity is said in jest. (My positivity is genuine tho)

Starting with UC:

•0079

Absolute classic but i prefer The Origin manga

•Zeta

Well done dark tone but kinda boring at times

•ZZ

Fuck you, the goofball stuff was great and a welcome change of pace

•08th MS Team

Probably the best down-to-earth mecha war story ever

•0080: War in the Pocket

*weeps profusely*

•Sentinel

Really compelling with a great cast, plus the idea of “other ways to emulate being a newtype” is still kinda unexplored both at the time this was written and to this day

•0083: Stardust Memory

Pretty damn good all things considered

•IgLoo

Zudah was a cool idea, too bad the tallgeese did it first and everything else about the show is boring af

•IgLoo Apocalypse

The best of the IgLoo trilogy but still around a 6.5/10

•IgLoo 2

Shinigami are canon to the universal century, 0/10

•Thunderbolt

Amazing in almost every way, plus the most effective usage of a sociopathic fed vs a well meaning zeon

•Twilight Axis

Meh

•Char’s Counterattack

The Resurrection F of UC

•Unicorn

Best anime i’ve ever watched

•Narrative

I just like that Unicorn got a direct sequel goddamn it

•F91

I so badly wish this was a series and not a movie

•Crossbone

Completely validates my opinion on F91

•Victory

Phenomenal use of character death, and I remember nothing else

•Reconguista in G

My favorite anime that i cannot recommend to anyone else on earth

Now for pre-2000’s au timelines:

•G Fighter

You cannot get more funny-bad in the entire Gundam franchise, it’s awesome

•Wing

I didn’t get the hype, but i still had a great time at points

•Endless Waltz

Much better mecha, slightly cooler plot

•X

I’m so sad this was rushed bc it’s by far my fave 90’s Gundam

Post 2000’s au timelines:

•SEED

Very cool pseudo-shounen remake of 0079

•SEED Destiny

Something good almost could have happened here, but no

•SEED Astray/R

Love all these goobers, really good

•Astray X

Worst official localization for any manga i’ve ever read, but there was still some cool stuff

•SEED Stargazer

*weeps profusely, but in the Cosmic Era this time*

•00

Behind the fujoshi bait is one of the smartest and well done mecha stories this side of Code Geass

•00 Awakening of the Trailblazer

… why aliens?

•AGE

I know that it’s my fault but I couldn’t even bring myself to get past the first generation

•Iron Blooded Orphans

I have never cried this many times or this hard over anime characters dying

•Build Fighters

Legit a 5Ds tier Toy Battle anime

•Build Fighters Try

A bit generic but still palatable

•Build Divers

Didn’t go far enough

•Build Divers: Re;Rise

Went way too far in the best way possible

And if it wasn’t clear already, Unicorn is by far my favorite Gundam and favorite anime overall, while IgLoo 2 is both my least favorite Gundam and my least favorite anime i’ve ever seen.

#gundam #mobile suit gundam #mecha #text post #gundam fan #god i love this franchise #again #just my opinion #not puttin anyone down for thinking differently :> #Gundam franchise #Gundam Unicorn #Gundam the origin #iron blooded orphans #gundam wing #gundam seed #gundam 00 #gundam build fighters #Gundam 08th ms team

[deadaggressor]

post that is heerorelena

#what tags do people even still use here #1xR #HeeroRelena #Gundam Wing #idk if wing fans have started to use name mashups at all of if im still having to solve for r and look at a math sheet or whatever

[vegalume]

Oh this drawing bugged the hell out of me. I don't know why, but it did. I finally showed it to mom and she said it was fine. She also liked it better without the foot, so I included that picture here under the cut.

#i low key still hate it #gundam wing #heero yuy #gundam wing fan art #yes i used a reference

[ikuzeminna]

AI tries to explain: early Relena hatred

ChatGPT, explain why Relena Peacecraft of "Mobile Sit Gundam Wing" was falsely disliked by many fans in the early 2000s.

Relena Peacecraft, a central character in "Mobile Suit Gundam Wing," was indeed a polarizing figure among fans in the early 2000s and even when the series originally aired in the late 1990s. Several factors contributed to her initially negative reception: Initial Perceptions: At the beginning of the series, Relena comes across as a seemingly naive and idealistic character. Her initial persona as a sheltered pacifist and diplomat's daughter contrasted sharply with the Gundam pilots, who were more action-oriented and stoic. This contrast led some viewers to find her character annoying or out of place in a mecha anime.

For the early 2000s the truth is more shallow than that in that Relena is simply female and has a pink limo which upset a lot of ..."fans" who had never watched a single episode up to that point yet read loads and loads of fanfics and were suddenly confronted with the fact that Heero was not star-crossed lovers with Duo but might actually be connected to the female protagonist.

The argument is certainly applicable to a lot of people who watched the series later though and crapped on Relena's character because missing the point on multiple occasions has become an Olympic discipline rather than actually paying attention to what is shown.

I mean, I get that most people let preconceptions and media tradition sway their interpretation (like Relena having a crush on the mysterious new guy at school being the reason she follows Heero to the harbor when the series itself gives plenty of hints she's doing it because Heero is shady af and she's suspicious of him) but when they then form a negative opinion on Wing that is completely baseless because they didn't understand plot points, it destroys their argument and makes them look silly. Especially when it is coupled with an air of superiority.

You wanna rip Gundam Wing to shreds? Go right ahead, bro, just please put some effort into it.

Contrast with Gundam Pilots: Relena's character was often juxtaposed with the more action-driven and complex Gundam pilots. Her early interactions with characters like Heero Yuy, who were dedicated to their mission and often displayed little emotion, created a perception that she was a hindrance to their objectives.

Oh my goodness, I have actually seen this argument in the wild. I had once gone through hate sites to compile a list of accusations people threw at Relena back in the rowdy days of Gundam Wing to compare to more recent takes (spoiler: not much has changed) and I came across stuff along the lines of Relena "getting in the way of everyone's missions, creating problems for Noin, Milliardo and the others and endangering them."

ChatGPT, you impress me with your blanket statements going in the right direction.

I take issue with "more action-driven and complex" though. Compared to Relena's complexity most Gundam pilots are as flat as a pancake. They all have their depth, mind you, but Relena has waaaay more stuff happening and a lot more character development.

Initial Helplessness: In the early episodes, Relena found herself in vulnerable situations and required rescue by the Gundam pilots. This portrayal of her as helpless or in need of saving added to the negative perception.

I guess we're back in fanfic land. Unless AI means the Cinq arc, but that's the late middle of the show and is a little more complicated than just that.

Shift in Character Development: Over time, Relena's character undergoes significant development. She evolves from a seemingly naive girl into a strong and independent character. Her journey towards becoming a more capable and determined individual was not immediately evident to some viewers who formed their opinions early in the series.

...This doesn't even make sense, neither in the context of the show nor as a general statement.

It is true that a lot of people like to form an early opinion of Relena they don't part with no matter how far into the show they get. In many cases it's a decidedly negative one and that colors their perspective and ruins their enjoyment of the show, especially during the Cinq arc because that one is all about Relena and I have seen people scream for those episodes to end during their watch. Which, not gonna lie, amused me since she's the female protagonist so it's a given she'd get a lot of screentime.

The main problem with the Cinq arc though is that many don't recognize Relena's genius in how she handled the whole situation. The Cinq arc isn't just Relena preaching pacifism to the world at the most inopportune time where Romefeller is razing cities to the ground with Mobile Dolls. It's a political move that presents an alternative to Romefeller who claim that peace can only be achieved through them and their military presence. Cue a bunch of pacifists showing up.

Cinq's fall was not a loss per se. Relena surrendered publicly, with the whole world watching, especially the colonies who manufactured Mobile Dolls for Romefeller at the time. You think following that Dermail made Relena Romefeller's head representative for funsies? She had backed him into a corner. He had lost public support, the peaceful colonies had witnessed what they had contributed to and even people inside Romefeller were starting to grumble about him. He was scrambling for damage control, forcing Relena's hand and desperate to build Libra to have a giant space laser that will keep people in line should they not obey him.

Crap later hits the fan for him when Relena turns the tables on him and the colonists take control of Libra.

Complex Morality: Relena's pacifist stance and commitment to peace are central to her character. Her ideological beliefs sometimes clashed with the actions of the Gundam pilots, leading to a moral dilemma in the story. Some fans may have initially disliked her character due to this moral tension.

Such a pacifist.

Different Expectations: "Gundam Wing" is part of the wider "Gundam" franchise, known for its complex political and philosophical themes. Some fans may have had expectations for a more traditional mecha anime and found Relena's character and her focus on diplomacy and peace less appealing in comparison.

If this is AI talk for UC fans crapping on Relena because she isn't Sayla Mass and doesn't pilot anything then it's weird. By now there have been so many iterations of Gundam shows with the "princess" character not piloting a mobile suit (Relena, Kihel, Lacus, Marina, etc.) that no one watching Wing for the first time expects Relena to do so. Expectations for a mecha anime? Even watching The Vision of Escaflowne I never expected Hitomi to hop into a guymelef.

AI, what are you on?

Character Growth: As the series progresses, Relena's character becomes more relatable and her determination to create a peaceful world resonates with viewers. However, this character development took time to manifest and was not immediately evident in the early episodes.

You said that already. It didn't make sense the first time and it's not making sense now either. Who expects full character development in the first two episodes? ò_ô

It's important to note that over time, many fans came to appreciate Relena's character for her growth, complexity, and her role in exploring the series' themes of war, peace, and morality. She went from being disliked by some in the early episodes to becoming a more well-rounded and respected character by the end of the series. Viewer opinions about characters can often change as the story unfolds and characters undergo development.

Save the preaching.

The rest is correct mostly though. There are many out there who hated Relena when they first saw the show but found her tolerable to actually badass on a second rewatch after a couple of years had passed. It wasn't the end of the series though that made most people like her but Endless Waltz instead.

You still get an F for not mentioned rabid shippers at all, AI. That crap was an actual problem in this fandom. Thank Goodness that's over.

#gundam wing #relena peacecraft #relena darlian #this almost veers into polemic #which is needless in this fandom since most fans are adults so there is no drama here #usually I also don't go looking for 20 year old fights #but I was really curious to see if AI had been fed the utter crap show that had been early GW fandom #apparently not

[akumanoken]

Someone heard there was a fight? Hell yeah he's in say less he's got all his spheres!!!

A man who knows better than to stop him...

#pax aeterna;; (ffx verse) #Aya's like 'just don't come out the gate with your mecha swords jfc' #I really wanna draw that... #because I imagine the cloak arond him like butterfly wings when he does his ultimate #like they just fan out and they're like blue morpho wings #or maybe like the wings on the TurnA Gundam