#getting a slight kick say even a high from mentioning reverse salem/ozma

[onewomancitadel]

Yoooo’, I just realized something: so like, Ozpin and Salem’s storyline is the archetypal “knight saves a princess from the tower” story right? But in the version that I’m typically familiar with (I don’t know what versions you usually hear about it), there was the omnipresent figure of the dragon in the story that said knight had to fight to get to her; “knight saves a princess trapped in the tower by an evil dragon” and such. But as far as I’m aware, there were no dragons that Ozpin had to face to rescue Salem; I say, “…as far as I’m aware,” because I haven’t watched any of the RWBY shorts or anything lately, so there might be critical info I’m missing out on. If anything, the dragons kind of ended up showing after Ozpin saved Salem in the form of the Brother Gods and it was Salem who was the one who wanted to save Ozpin (or like, bring him back), so like, I don’t know if that entirely counts.

On the other hand, Jaune’s the knight (obviously his whole theme) and Cinder’s supposed to be the “princess”, supposedly. But Jaune’s obviously going to have difficulty with interacting with Cinder, and Cinder’s mental state is… chaotic, to say the least. However, Cinder’s whole theme is also supposed to be fire, right? So what if, Cinder is both the princess and the dragon, and it’s Jaune’s role to slay the “dragon” side to her to be able to get to the “princess” underneath? I don’t know, I’m a pretty stupid dude IRL, so this might all just be worthless random banter. I love your stuff. Okay, thank you, bye, have a nice day.

Okay, I do really appreciate that you sent me this, but I literally just made a post yesterday that Cinder is both dragon and Maiden. I think that must be an ESP moment lol.

This reflects the same duality going on with a lot of characters in the show, like Ruby is Wolf and Red Riding Hood, Weiss is Snow White and Huntsman (Huntress), Blake is Beauty and Beast, Yang is Goldilocks and the Three Bears (hers is less pronounced than the other three though, but it's there).

I certainly don't expect people to follow every single thing I post, and I think a conclusion (potentially) has a chance of being 'more correct' if people arrive to independently. Oh, also, edit, sorry, you mentioned you liked my blog: thank you, I do appreciate that, it's very kind of you. I usually feel like I'm spouting nonsense lol.

But the Salem/Ozma stuff reflecting Jaune/Cinder is stuff I have relentlessly gone on about as well, so I think making that connection is pretty organic. Reverse Salem/Ozma is the most pronounced with them too.

Just so we're on the same page cuz I'm not sure what people have read on my blog, I maintain that Jaune/Cinder heals the Salem/Ozma wound of the series (and most of the relationships do, but I talk about them on my blog the most) and they're the most literal example where this is the last confrontation between Salem and Ozma:

and this is the first formal confrontation when things pick back up again

and with the way R/WBY retells stories and has its own story rhyming with itself I'm convinced that by fixing the same story playing out over and over again (Salem/Ozma split) then that's the salvific balm and then things can be new again. >:(

Okay that aside finished with

If anything, the dragons kind of ended up showing after Ozpin saved Salem in the form of the Brother Gods and it was Salem who was the one who wanted to save Ozpin (or like, bring him back), so like, I don’t know if that entirely counts.

It does count, I think they did it that way intentionally (R/WBY is always doing weird stuff with this order of saving), there were the Trials to overcome in the Tower but there was no dragon. It then makes sense to my eyes - if they're literally doing Reverse Salem/Ozma - that it's dragons overcome, then a tower involved somewhere and freedom. Or the Relic of Choice.

But Jaune’s obviously going to have difficulty with interacting with Cinder, and Cinder’s mental state is… chaotic, to say the least.

Deeply traumatised, yes.

and it’s Jaune’s role to slay the “dragon” side to her to be able to get to the “princess” underneath?

Cinder breathes fire, just for the record. That's already a thing she's been doing.

I don't think it's 'slaying', I think 'taming' might be a better word. The dragon part of her is not really that bad, it's the Maiden power, and she should end up as a good Fall Maiden. The Maiden and the dragon are one in the same, but you can't kill this one. I'm splitting hairs, I'm just a bit sensitive about 'killing' the bad parts of you when it's about integrating and balancing those parts.

I have also sort of ad nauseam emphasised that the non-violent handling of Cinder's arc (lol) with Jaune is very very compelling to me narratively and it makes a lot of sense to me that R/WBY would go for a different answer to slaying the dragon.

It's also extremely romantic, the damsel-in-distress-slash-dragon is one of the most powerful women in Remnant and it's spiritual release/nourishment which is the thing which saves her and empowers her :(((((((( the dragon needs love not killing :(

Oh I'm going to cry now, this is so up my alley

Thanks anon for your ask. For the record, you're not stupid at all and you don't need to worry. I hope you have a good day or evening, whatever is applicable. (:

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