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nooks-cranny-mogai · 2 months

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Getting very tempted to make a list of pro-palestine blogs that think it's totally not horrifically disrespectful to post gore of the attack on Palestine. They legitimately do not care that it strips a person of their identity in life(often because they are unrecognizable), it indignifies them by using their corpse as shock value and it violates even basic respect of the dead to post their body without consent of the family or the individual. I may be only an arm chair psychologist and trying to learn how to properly handle grief but I'm sure your really fucking helping(/sar) the family when you post their loved ones corpse for all the Internet to fucking see and comment on.

Like imagen losing your kid in a horrific bombing and some white liberal half way across the world posts their dead body for everyone to see without remotely asking her family and they just say "omg my heart is with Palestine 😢 this poor little girl got her head torn off. I cry every night due to this massacre." And you just have to sit there and watch the comments fill with white tears and a few fuckers saying your daughter deserved it.

NGL I'd probably go fucking scorched earth if that happened to me and these fucking blogs do it daily then get mad at you when you point out:

it's disrespectful,

(" the world needs to see this mutilated corpse to understand how bad it is!!" they say as if the death toll isn't right fucking there and these bodies don't have a right to dignity in death. Palestinians are not only corpses in the minds of the fucking iof but also apparent you. They are people and that applies to their fucking corpses. No one wants to be known and remembered by a picture taken of them when they died in a violent, torturous and degrading death. Imagine if that was you, or your sibling or your mom or grandparent or uncle or shit, even your dog. You'd be pissed and upset and dehumanized. Palestinians already have their grief forced into the spotlight by this genocide, do not make them share these horrible moments with the world.)

it doesn't do shit for the movement,

(" it shows the Zionists and their sympathizers what their beliefs result in!" They say as if the Zionists don't want this and care. News flash they don't and the only people seeing this is your allies who are telling you it's disrespectful. Zionists do not care about the dead and the state of their bodies. They do not care about this massacre. They are racist fucks who want this. You arnt changing minds.)

Don't tag it,

("if I tag it people won't look at it! Don't look away!" Have you considered gore posting is exclusively used to shock people and some people don't need shocked. Not wanting to see a fucking corpse on Tumblr isn't "looking away from the conflict.". Looking away from the conflict is ignoring it, not talking about it, not sharing info. I don't need to see the dead body of a trans person to know trans people are dieing.)

It violates so many tos it isn't even funny.

(" Tumblr is silencing us! Why are you siding with Tumblr???" Though Tumblr is probably trying to censor this movement like most other places, your not getting reported or struck down because your posting about Palestine. It's because your posting litteral fucking gore. If this was allowed, idk how to tell you Tumblr would become a hellscape full of the most depraved shit. You do not get a special birthday boy pass to post gore because it's for a good cause. It's still fucking gore, it's fundamentally disrespectful and it's against tos for that reason. It's a good reason and if I have to play by tumblrs rules to get your disrespectful shit taken down, so be it.)

I'm not very strong opinioned about how people talk about certain social issues. There's a right way and a wrong way and some ways that ride the line. Gore posting is the wrong way, cut and dry. It invalidates your message and shows a lack of decorum for the dead. It's the basic principles.

Now I'm gonna talk directly to the people who posted gore from Palestine or any other horrific conflict world wide whose still not happy that I'm criticizing you. I'm gonna be nice here and I mean that:

I know it hurts. I know it's scary. I know thinking about it makes you angry and pisses you off and depresses you and makes you cry and have nightmares. I know that hurt and fear and anger at knowing something horrible is happening and there isn't much you can do about it. Posting dead bodies won't bring them back to life. Posting child corpses won't help your message get across. I know you desensitized to the violence but that's not the issue of your peers who tell you it's fucked up your posting dead bodies from a genocide. It's yours and it shows your basic respect is lost to your fear and you need to take a breather for a day and step off.

Everyone is exhausted. Everyone is scared and angry. You won't help us by upsetting other members of our movement with unnessesary and fundamentally disrespectful images of corpses. We know how bad it is, pictures just make people vomit and resent you. They don't change minds, they don't "show the reality" they don't even respect the living family of the dead. They do nothing. They are pointless. I know your tired of being gaslit and told this isn't happening and maybe you think those pictures prove it. They don't. The people who still think this isn't real and as bad as it is are going to look at that corpse and call it a lie, a prop. And now you've not only disrespected their body by posting it publicly for any ol creep and loved one of the dead to see, you've now made them a spectacle. A thing for them to point and laugh at and pick out "details that clearly show it's fake".

It helps nothing. It doesn't prove anything to those who don't believe it and it dosent show the truth of this genocide. All it shows is a dead person at the time their life was ended in a horrible and painful way and you have to sit with their body and the fact you've lost yourself so much in this you arnt shocked or surprised and that's concerning. You have to live with the fact people are going to spread their body far and wide across the Internet for any shock posters and necrophiles to disrespect. You put their body in that position when you could of stopped it, reported it and let them be known by a smiling picture in life of their family cropped from pictures the family holds dear. Now they are known as someone's favorite picture for numerous horrible and disrespectful reasons and you put them there. That's pretty shitty of you. Maybe get some therapy. Some help. Take a week break and take care of yourself.

And next time, when a mutual of yours thinks gore helps the movement, remind them the Internet is forever and although it's important we never forget this tragedy and we do everything we possibly can to stop it, this won't help anyone. Gore never does. Self harm for a righteous good never does. The same way you can't be held responsible for the things you think aka thought crime, the same you can't do good by thinking violent thoughts about iof soldiers or praying for Palestine. Hurting yourself won't help the movement and gore just hurts your friends. Think long and hard before you post that child's body and know to thousands, that's the only way they will ever see or know her, by her dead body. She deserves better. Her family deserves better. You know better. Do better.

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jennycalendar · 2 years

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can you elaborate on that comment in the tags about giles and jenny not getting back together if angel had died and jenny had lived?

oh absolutely i can!

so i waver on whether buffy would ever have totally forgiven jenny had angel died in a way that was completely permanent, especially in a timeline where nothing bad has ever actually happened to jenny? like, she is buffy's scapegoat. she is who buffy pins the guilt onto and it's very important narratively speaking that she dies in large part because the guilt is shifted to her and she is shifted out of the loop. i personally am of the mind that this situation was no one's fault, but that it also came about in a way where absolutely everyone closely involved would feel like it was Their Fault Specifically (jenny, giles, buffy, angel...) even though that obviously isn't the case.

but. like. buffy does not totally forgive jenny? that's not what happens. she basically says "keep feeling bad forever," hesitates, and then reluctantly gives them her blessing for giles's sake. it's very possible that buffy would not intentionally draw that wedge between them, but i can't see buffy being totally comfortable with giles and jenny being couple-y in a timeline where angel is dead, and i CAN see giles picking up on that and kinda doing one of those self-sacrificing watcher things where he and jenny mutually agree to cut their relationship short.

and it's giles and jenny, so there really isn't any wavering during the breakup if BOTH parties are committed to it! their weird couple-y tension came less from them not being able to stay apart and more from one party wanting a clean break and the other party being absolutely heartbroken & desperately trying to win their honey back.

again: it might not pan out like this! maybe buffy WOULD find peace w it! but it is crystal clear that giles Is Not comfortable with buffy and angel, even if he is very careful not to say anything about it, and for the sake of the role reversal we are assuming that buffy Is Not comfortable with giles and jenny in that same "your partner contributed to my trauma in a huge way" kinda deal. and like i don't think there is any situation where giles and jenny stay together if it's impacting buffy the way that angel and buffy staying together very quietly impacts giles. i genuinely think she might straight up leave town for a little while and it might take them years to reconnect, if they do. (my brain is of course now jumping to an even angstier s6 where after buffy's death giles immediately seeks jenny out for comfort, and so when buffy comes back there is a lot of Loaded Tension re: what this move of giles's implies, and what he might have wanted, and buffy's new and improved guilt complex + GILES feeling shitty about buffy finding out about feelings he never wanted her to know...)

but honestly yeah it just feels weird to me? maybe the rest of the season will change my mind, i am soooo hoping that it will, but the idea of angel's loss being the fundamental horrific tragedy is genuinely baffling to me when giles was brutalized and his girlfriend was killed BY ANGEL. definitely the characters within the narrative don't have a lot of sympathy for angel atm, but the narrative ITSELF is framing this as a point of heartbreak as well. that buffy's pain isn't understood because her boyfriend, um, killed a whole bunch of people and everyone is understandably a little bit not at all on Team Angel right now. and it just feels....not sure how i feel about it. confused perhaps.

#asks #i vacillate btwn like. buffy is the protagonist of course her pain is central #and like ..... actually what is happening here. why is the loss of angel so tragic under these circumstances #i think part of why it's lost on me is -- like i said! i just did not connect w the romance in season two like i hoped i would #so that colors it and that's why. like #i gotta label these as Opinions and not necessarily Text Supported Readings

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