#doyoky

[kfcdoubledown]

About three weeks late I now have Doyoky Gamecube joycons and can compare them directly against the NYXI Wizard! I've also disassembled them to attempt to modify them and failed, and can complain about its internals.

Doyoky Retro uses rubber membrane connections on ALL game buttons except for the paddles and context buttons; +, -, Home, Capture, macro/paddle assign, and L4/R4 paddles are the only buttons that use micro-switches. Improvement over NYXI Wizard which uses micro-switches on the d-pad and shoulder buttons.

Macro and Paddle Assign buttons are the only buttons on the entire controller that rattle when shaken.

Doyoky Retro has that kind of cheap-feeling lightness to it that third-party controllers usually do. It doesn't have the weight of traditional rumble motors, so it doesn't feel as premium as NYXI Wizard does.

All the face buttons and sticks feel almost spot-on compared to a Gamecube OEM! Insane upgrade from NYXI Wizard which feels more like a third-party controller.

The joycon rail piece attached to it out of the box is also a USB-C charging station for joycons and works with pretty much anything that can be put on a joycon rail!

Like the NYXI Wizard, the stick caps are again completely custom. This time, sadly, they're pretty purpose-built for the Doyoky Retro, and OEM Gamecube stick caps (as well as the Gamecube-themed Retroflag drop-in controller) do not fit the Doyoky Retro without severe modification. I'm still working on some way of mounting an OEM's C-stick nub to one of the replacement caps.

The Doyoky Retro has replacement caps! The stick caps' actual thumbsticks are mounted on a hexagonal friction-fit bracket and can be removed. You get a gray C-stick style nub, replacements for both to feel more like a Dualshock 4 or Dualsense controllers' sticks, or a ringed rubber C-stick like the analog.

The interior of the Doyoky Retro is pretty convoluted and stupid on a couple of its controls. A plunger on a spring is mounted to the PCB in a well to hit the micro-switch that controls the paddles, and the plunger itself hits a long post attached to the paddle button. This also makes it a total bitch to close the controller back up without anything falling out.

The joycon rail is custom, and none of its functions are actually on the rail itself, they're on micro-switches on the PCB. This includes the SL and SR buttons. The only piece of electronics on the rail itself is the charge/hard connection rail to a Switch or other charger, and the Bluetooth antenna.

The battery is a small (~1 inch long and wide?) pouch battery that is only held in place by the friction of a foam cushion glued to it, and resting on the interior of the controller and occupying some of the space in the handles. Like the paddle mechanisms, this also has a bad tendency to just flop around and fall out; they should have used double-sided tape to secure it inside the well it occupies on the plastic mold.

Doyoky Retro uses a little button motor for vibration instead of fuller sized motors as in a typical controller. Downgrade from NYXI Wizard.

The controller only tries to connect to Switch when pressing Home on the right joycon and Capture on the left. This is really annoying when every other controller on the market, even other third-parties, will try to connect on any button press!

In summation these are worth the money if you want a Gamecube controller, especially one with accurate buttons and sticks. I think, though, that the perfect Gamecube joycon lies somewhere between here and the NYXI Wizard. Either the Doyoky one needs to be heavier and needs more OEM-accurate sticks (the C-stick nub likely doesn't have a C embossed because they're using the same mold for the optional left-stick nub), or the NYXI Wizard needs to drop the button backlight in favor of OEM-style buttons and adopt the rubber membrane button improvements. The Wizard has better paddles, weight and rumble, the Retro has better buttons, bundle-ins, and d-pad. I can't really recommend one over the other, since in direct comparison both have their caveats that make the other more desirable. Maybe a third company will try their hand at a Gamecube joycon, or one of the two will make improvements?

Additionally, Doyoky made me wait an extra three weeks on my order because they ran into quality-control problems that required an entire batch be taken back to the factory. The order almost made it to fulfillment, and was hurriedly taken back; it required asking customer-support what was going on to actually get any reason on why my order stopped moving, and even then they weren't entirely sure why themselves until some days after I first sent an email. The whole while, it was still listed as an in-stock product. Not a good move.

#gamecube #nintendo gamecube #joycon #joycons #nintendo #nintendo switch #doyoky #doyoky retro #controllers #controller

[kfcdoubledown]

Secret public journal for Doyoky Retro:

Significantly better as a controller than the NYXI Wizard, buttons feel like a fresh Gamecube OEM except for the shoulders

Comes with a joycon grip that be used to charge them over USB-C

Less flexible in stick cap replacements than the NYXI Wizard; you cannot put OEM Gamecube sticks in without severely modifying them

The only stick caps I've found that even remotely work as a drop-in replacement are the ones fitted onto the Retroflag USB-C controller, and even then the analog stick does not and will not fit even if modified (and it's not worth buying a wholly separate $45 controller just to harvest its C-stick cap, I had it laying around)

It's really annoying to put back together because the paddle buttons on the grips are implemented stupidly, the battery isn't securely attached to anything because it's friction-fit inside the grips with foam, and like with any joycon the ribbon-cable leading to the rail gets in the way and threatens to fly apart

These are your best option currently existing for Gamecube controller joycons, short of going the absolute whole 9 yards and sawing a Gamecube controller in half like that Shank Mods lunatic. It's really cool that we have an option at all for something like a wireless Gamecube controller split in half!

#video games #controllers #gamecube #nintendo switch #doyoky #doyoky retro #joycon #joycons

[kfcdoubledown]

Heyyyyy the Doyokys connect to PC just fine! This thing is an option for wireless Gamecube games then. Weird quirk though is they show up first as "BLE_JoyL/JoyR" or something like that and take a while to show up as Joy-Con (L)/(R) and it's the latter you have to add or else the connection will fail.

#joycon #joycons #video games #vibeo gaens #controller #controllers #doyoky #nintendo #nintendo switch

[kfcdoubledown]

Got a c-stick from a Retroflag USB-C controller onto the Doyoky Retro, so now my nostalgia and my autism are appeased. I would have used an OEM Gamecube c-stick but I'd already carved out the Retroflag one and I figured it goes well with the ABXY buttons that are also not 100% accurate and I'm too lazy/frustrated to fashion up accurate replacements for.

[kfcdoubledown]

Doyoky Gamecube joycons are available on their website now! They say they’re gonna set up fast US shipping in May so I’ll wait a week or two before ordering. I’m attracted to it coming with a charge-capable joycon dock and having more accurate face buttons than the NYXI Wizard. I’ll probably pry the right one open and replace its C-stick like I did with the NYXI.

#switch #nintendo switch #gamecube #nintendo gamecube #controller #controllers #joy cons #joycons #joycon #joy con

[kfcdoubledown]

Nyxi, why? Why'd you ruin it, Nyxi? Microswitch buttons on a nostalgia product? Come on, Nyxi, you hit every other box, it's got wireless and a small C-stick and analog triggers. This is a derivative of the Nyxi Wizard which already had rubber membrane buttons. Why is the A button flush with the shell, Nyxi. Why do you want to get spanked by Doyoky/Binbok so badly, Nyxi. Nyxi.

Nyxi.

#nyxi #nyxi warrior #video games #vibeo gaens #controller #controllers

[kfcdoubledown]

Gamecube joycons purchased from Binbok are now marked as shipped, we'll see if they go anywhere since the DOYOKY ones still haven't

[kfcdoubledown]

Also I give up and I’m just going to order the Doyoky controller through Binbok and see if that actually ships out in a sane timeframe

I’m using Paypal Pay-in-4 and I’ll just refund whichever one is set to ship out last

[kfcdoubledown]

On the list for the Doyoky controller if/when it does finally arrive

Swap out at least the C-stick cap for one with a proper C embossed on it

Apparently the OEM Gamecube controller can have the rubber membrane for its ABXY buttons put into the Doyoky, with a little bit of trimming to fit, so if I’m not satisfied with how the buttons feel I can literally change them over to feel like a real Gamecube

See if I can’t fit another d-pad + in there since this one also looks kinda cheap

I notice the gates on the analog stick are pretty small compared to OEM Gamecube, I might see about widening those out if it doesn’t strike me as a difficult job. It’s weird that the C-stick’s gate is roughly accurate but the analog’s isn’t

Might honestly just take out the paddle buttons and put some filler material in there to fill the holes up, I don’t use paddles on Switch controllers

[kfcdoubledown]

According to their customer-service rep they realized there were QC issues with literally every item in the batch and sent them back to the factory to be corrected mere moments before shipping them out, like literally *just* before shipping them all off to YunExpress since it got as far as shipment information being sent

I’ve been threatening suicide on DOYOKY’s doorstep ever since (I did not cancel the order and get a refund because I do want the item and it wouldn’t get it to me any faster)

#pancakeke

[kfcdoubledown]

I still want those Doyoky joycons sooo fucking bad, but something has gone disastrously wrong on their end because I'm two weeks out from it being "shipped" and YunExpress still doesn't actually have the parcel. I've asked what the hell's going on and got told "wait three days surely you will get the notice" twice in a row. I'll probably get a refund and wait for them to get their shit together (or wait for it to appear on Amazon) since ordering direct from them has been awful.

[kfcdoubledown]

DOYOKY apparently went on vacation immediately before or immediately after I placed my order for Gamecube joycons with them last week, I am going to kill myself

[kfcdoubledown]

DOYOKY Gamecube joycons ordered and shipped, I’m excited for this one. I’ll most likely swap the C-stick out for an OEM one because the lack of a C printed on it bothers me, but the d-pad looks better than the NYXI’s one, the face buttons are much closer to OEM, and it comes with a grip rail that can charge joycons over USB-C.

#gamecube #joycon #joycons #video games #vibeo gaens