#but that was a misunderstanding and he assumed lwj thought he was evil
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I go on twitter, see a bunch of twitter thread fics, roll my eyes and exit as fast as I can.
"He would not fucking say that..." Was all that echoed in my head.
Crazy take: WWX not being sure if he can trust LWJ during his YLLZ days... Excuse me? They seriously think WWX didn't trust LWJ at any point in his life? Have they even read the novel? I doubt it.
If they had, they would have noticed that WWX had given LWJ access to the mountain alongside his sect leader JC. No one else from his sect (bar JYL I'm assuming) could go up the mountain without being harassed by the fierce corpses guarding the base. So of course he trusts him! During his visit people should note he was not pestered by the corpses as he left. WWX did not command them or warn LWJ as they parted ways - because he had already given him access way before then. He actively added LWJ to the list of people allowed past his undead guards. He's not obligated to give him access like he is JC, he chose to because he trusts he would do the right thing. WWX even says/thinks as much during LWJ's visit there! He trusts him explicitly, he knows he is righteous and fair - it's one of the things he actually loves about him! So for WWX to say he needs time to figure out if he trusts LWJ - well that's just so ooc you might as well call him a different fn name!
#mdzs#mo dao zu shi#mdzs novel#wei wuxian#lan wangji#wangxian#yes... he thought lwj wanted to take him back to the cr for a while#but that was a misunderstanding and he assumed lwj thought he was evil#he thought lwj didn't trust him#but that never stopped wwx trusting lwjs moral code
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I've seen a few claim WWX did not trust LWJ in his first life, but I think that's not the case at all. I'd even say there's evidence he trusted him immensely during his time at the burial mounds.
I find it very interesting to see that LWJ seemed to have been granted access to visit the burial mounds prior to the Yiling date. WWX set up an army of corpses to guard the base of the mountain. We see he's allowed JC, who is of course his sect leader at the time, access to the burial mounds (big mistake, but hey WWX feels obliged) and then we later see LWJ is not harassed by the corpse guards as he walks back down either... yet everyone else is thrown away, even the rest of the Jiang sect aren't allowed up prior to WWX officially leaving. So WWX trusted LWJ enough to allow him to come up the mountain (wishful thinking WWX?) and trusted him to do what was right.
WWX kept the golden core transfer a secret because he didn't want JC finding out or others knowing he had a weakness to exploit. Not because he didn't trust LWJ. He judged LWJ's original reaction as disapproval of his new method (instead of the only person to display concern for him when he reappears looking and acting far from his usual sel, due to trauma of course) - so he was hurt by LWJ's reaction and kept him at arms length.
But this was because if anyone was smart enough to actually figure out what had happened, it's LWJ - and he got damn close to it considering he was the only person to figure out WWXs spiritual powers were at least "diminished".
At the very end, when everyone was turning against him and his trauma was bearing down on him from all angles, he was delirious and was too far gone to see LWJ was there for him, not against him. He missed the way LWJ spoke to him or the pain in his eyes as they argued - because he already assumed everyone had turned against him and nothing would change his mind except the girl who he thought of as a sister, the closest thing he had to a mother. Once she was gone the last remaining embers of hope were snuffed out and nothing would convince him the whole world was not against him.
Perhaps, if JCs poisonous words of "he hates you" and "he thinks you are evil, just like his uncle" hadn't taken root in his heart and grown into doubt over the years (because originally WWX was adamant LWJ did actually like him), maybe he might have felt he could have shared what really happened, having always trusted in LWJ's character, fairness and morality. He might have felt LWJ would hear him out and explain what happened, because he knows LWJ does not judge without facts. But unfortunately because of misunderstandings and people trying to keep them apart, this was not what transpired.
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Final thoughts about Nie HuaiSang...
...and how he never lied, and became the mother of WangXian. Twice.
CONTAINS MAJOR SPOILERS FOR CHAPTER 109 AND CHAPTER 110. DO NOT READ IF YOU DO NOT WISH TO BE SPOILED.
I find it really interesting how, in the end, MXTX decided to not expose NHS as a mastermind behind JGY’s fall. It was heavily implied that he was the person who sent the letters, and the final scene with NHS picking JGY’s hat seems to be a closing wink for the reader. But even so, it was never confirmed and WWX specially points how they have no evidence. NHS’s role could be just a misunderstanding. Maybe MXTX didn’t want us to be sure and we are supposed to wonder what is true and what is false? Or maybe the whole reason lies in showing who is the perfect liar? A hint: not JGY.
As WWX said and I’m going to repeat, it’s nothing more than a speculation. My opinion. But I'm having second thoughts about NHS being the cruel mastermind and even more, the perfect liar. At least not in the way that JGY suspected it. Right before his death, JGY screams “HuaiSang, you’re truly impressive. How unexpected for me to fall in your hands like this…“ and I feel this line tricked a lot of readers into thinking that NHS’s fear and timidity was nothing but a facade, a part of the plan. Personally, I don’t think it was the case? NHS’s style of lying seems to be based on something completely different than JGY’s lies, and his finale mistake was to judge NHS with his own standards.
First of all, to assume that NHS only pretended to be good-for-nothing in order to avoid suspicion would mean that his plan started long time ago - too long time ago, when his brother was still alive. Back then, NHS had no reason to play dumb. When we meet him in the Gusu school, he’s truly cowardly and lacks ability and will to learn. If he has no reason to lie, my conclusion is: the NHS we saw in the school was the true NHS. Because what would he gain? Nothing. Still, we got a bunch of very useful (in the light of recent events) information.
First, WWX never, even once, treated NHS like an idiot. Of course, he wasn’t a good student. But I think it was clear that NHS was stubborn and put efforts only in things he was passionate about, ignoring things that bored him. WWX says “It wasn’t that he was not clever, but that his heart was set somewhere else and used his smarts on other areas, such as painting on fans, searching for birds, skipping classes, and catching fish". WWX says it - NHS was clever! His talents were just too different from proper cultivaton talents; thus he was considered stupid, a head-shaker. I now wonder... let me ask you, how did someone like NHS found out about JGY’s murder? We know JGY was extremely careful, he left almost no hints. And seeing something off in qi deprivation? NHS, who did so poor in cultivation? It’s impossible. Unless he found truth by looking at things he was good at - for example, at the music. And music is a very interesting topic since it plays a big role in MDZS. LWJ and his brother are praised for their musical knowledge and WWX realizes that he can use a flute to control evil energy. Then JGY uses music to kill NMJ. It’s the key word: uses. For all those characters music is a weapon they can use in their cultivation and for this reason they are admired, while in NHS’s case, the art of any kind was separated from cultivation and fighting, and because of that totally useless. I think it is very interesting to wonder whether this whole ‘being lazy’ turned out to be NHS’s most powerful weapon. If NHS learned about music, he could hear something smoothing in LXC’s playing and then something strange in JGY’s music. Connect the dots. But it’s just a theory.
Then, NHS is described as a coward and pretty much... every scene with him proves it. Almost. It depends on what we consider to be cowardly. For sure NHS didn’t have enough courage to stand face to face with his brother and tell him openly that he doesn’t want to practice, but it didn’t stop him from not learning and skipping classes. Let me tell you, I find it a type of bravery, though a very specific one. It’s hard to say if NMJ was truly cruel to NHS - we know that JC’s ‘I’ll break your legs’ is more of a catchphrase than an actual threat, and NHS is a chicken contrasting with NMJ’s explosive personality, what gives us a poor picture - but even if he wasn’t beating his brother, NMJ was still frightening in NHS’s eyes. Shouldn’t NHS put twice as much effort in learning to escape from his brother’s anger? Yes. And here we are - he didn’t! Never! Even when he was afraid! Instead, he was doing whatever he could to trick his brother into thinking he’s trying to learn. Meanwhile, NHS was avoiding classes. He brought porn to the Cloud Recess although he knew about the rules and punishments. Would a coward do it? I doubt. But it’s all about being caught. Nothing more. In all this, we see NHS’s philosophy - it’s scary, but only if done openly. Nobody is dangerous if they don’t know about your faults. And this is how MXTX introduces NHS to us; he’s a master of escaping from responsibilities, pretending to care and making the stronger one believe he care. Even if NHS started with classes and finished on plotting a murder, I think his personality is very consistent and that’s why I don’t think he was lying, JGY misinterprets his intentions - NHS didn’t just pretend to be scared, rather he was scared to death... and that’s what he did the only thing he could. Made sure nobody knows the truth.
NHS was not only good at avoiding responsibilities and running from his brother (the stronger one). MXTX also made sure to show us that NHS knows how to use people. When he was in school, he was painfully aware that he wouldn’t win alone, thus searching for help in WWX. It’s another thing we know about NHS - he has no problem with pushing his duties onto others, and even more, leaving others to do it for him. His friendship with WWX was build on little lies - WWX was supposed to help NHS with tests and in return, NHS copied texts for WWX. As you see, they both knew how to slip between the rules and lie here and there. Now, hear me and look how it goes with WWX and LWJ’s relationship: though the met on the wall of the Gusu Cloud Recess, back then they didn’t know much about each other. LWj noticed WWX but he wasn’t a type to approach strangers while WWX tried to befriend LWJ, but still didn’t drag him by force. If it continued like that, they would never fall for each other. But then something happened.
NHS couldn’t do something alone.
He asked WWX for help.
He got caught.
WWX was punished and forced to copy in the library.
LWJ was monitoring him.
The punishment was the first opportunity to spend more time together and get to know each other.
And now we have the present times, and NHS who has no idea how to deal with his brother’s corpse. A plan appears in his mind. He needs WWX’s help. He can use him and make him do it. WWX is also aware that it couldn’t be a coincidence for the Lan Sect to be present in the same place he was reborn, yet he doesn’t list any reasons... And what if NHS knew? Leaving WWX all along in the world full of enemies could be dangerous for the mission NHS planned, but if he was one of few people who actually noticed something deeper in WWX and LWj’s relationship, deceiving LWJ to go to the Mo village and find WWX was only an insurance.
Maybe I’m like WWX and add more than it’s necessary? But I truly think that NHS was scared and good-for-nothing, so in his fear he used dirty methods his brother would hate, used people to achieve his goal. Still, NHS was the reason WWX and LWJ got together. Twice. And still, JGY was afraid only of NMJ, in the end dying because of NHS. I think it’s all a very good parallel.
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