#but maybe this would have also canonized cold jack & janet in which case garbage

[scintillyyy]

also i am a notable court of owls disliker, but i am always wondering about the differences there would have been if snyder had done it as the dickbats story sequel to gates of gotham he had planned. because i think i remember hearing about him saying something about going into families like the drakes too, and this part in gates of gotham #1 sticks out to me

that's tim mentioning a grandfather in reference to the bridges being called the gates of gotham, as you can see:

tim mentions that the bridges were called the gates as a nickname at the turn of the century, but that his grandfather called them the gates too, which we learn is also a reference to the gates brothers who built the bridges. which to me, kind of seems like the seeds being planted for tim's family through his grandfather to have some kind of insider knowledge of the founding of gotham (i'm assuming the drakes would have been a court of owls family potentially). like this could just be a throwaway line, but giving tim a grandfather like this seems meaningful.

i just...i imagine the dick & tim of it all that we could have had. rolling in the deep here.

#now i am a drakes are new money truther #so on one hand i am kind of glad he didn't get retconned into being old money #however. this may have also been up my alley depending idk #i am picturing. a flashback to janet as a loving mother. #weirdness with tim's ancestors #but maybe this would have also canonized cold jack & janet in which case garbage #once again thank you chip for the best janet lore in the world