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#but he found me anyways so i bitched at him gtfo and long story short he fucked off into the sunset (atleast he said he would)
bartsugsy · 5 years
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I count on your meta and good taste gurl. It bugged me that Robert said "i chose you" when we well know that he didnt make that choice since he was forced out of his marriage with chrissie. He didnt make a choice he just couldnt have chrissie anymore. And the other thing is a line from the reveal "you told me everything in the end and i stayed didnt i"? What the hell that supposed to mean? He also said he wanted messed up but then after one light fight and he gave aaron up LITERALLY
OK ANON I GOT U LETS DO THIS
(eta: OK HERE IS LO OF THE FUTURE, HAVING FINISHED THIS POST. JUST TO LET YOU KNOW I HAD FAR TOO MUCH FUN AND THIS POST IS OVER 2900 WORDS LONG SO LIKE
GET YOURSELF A CUP OF TEA)
firstly and the whole reason i decided to answer this ask, bc i LOVE talking about this, let’s talk about if robert truly chose aaron that first time around:
It bugged me that Robert said "i chose you" when we well know that he didnt make that choice since he was forced out of his marriage with chrissie. He didnt make a choice he just couldnt have chrissie anymore.
SO
ok, i don’t know how recently you’ve watched or rewatched the era from the lodge and chrissie/robert break up until... let’s say aaron’s reveal, because aaron’s reveal was when robert said ‘i love you’ to aaron again and really put robert and aaron back in one another’s orbits on the lead up to their eventual reunion, so
we really want to look at the period before robert did that - from the moment he lost chrissie, to him actively sort of... i guess announcing to the audience that robron was still gonna be a thing? is the best way to describe the purpose of robert saying ‘i love you’
this also high key benefits me, because that’s exactly where i’ve written up to in my break up posts (see part six and part seven)
this is convenient, because i spend those two parts talking about robert’s whole journey from being like I WANT TO BE WITH CHRISSIE AND HER MONEY to eventually being like UH CHRISSIE WHO
my theory is that after he got shot, he had a coma dream where it was just all-aaron all-the-time and he woke up like.... life is too short and i am in love with a man and his name is aaron dingle
my reasoning for this is that there is a pointed difference between how robert behaves towards both chrissie and aaron pre-coma and post-coma, even when he thinks both potentially could have tried to kill him lmao
pre-coma robert was outed against his will, first by aaron to chrissie and then by chrissie to his family (and the entire village). robert wasn’t ready to come out - he says the words “i’m straight” to vic (he also says “i’m not gay” a lot to defend himself but we have to let that slide because he wasn’t actually lying, even if he still very clearly isn’t ready to come out or talk openly about his sexuality or feelings for aaron with anyone else)
robert is clinging onto chrissie and sort of... is convinced that they can make it work, even though she’s so mad at him that she actively tries to set him on fire.
some key moments that i’m just going to straight up c/p from my break up posts to describe some things that happen, bc why rewrite something i’ve already written:
FIRSTLY, here’s two excerpts pre-coma, to show you how robert was acting just after being outed
robert’s determination that he and chrissie could get back together (in a way that literally seems desperate, with robert refusing to acknowledge the reality of the situation:
Robert pops by Home Farm, presumably to pick up his stuff, and tries to apologise to Chrissie again by ONCE AGAIN COMPARING HIS MONTHS-LONG, EMOTIONALLY INTIMATE, PASSIONATE AFFAIR WITH AARON TO THAT ONE TIME CHRISSIE AND CAIN TOUCHED LIPS FOR 10 SECONDS AND LIKE
HE’S GOT SOME FUCKIN NERVE, DOESN’T HE
I love one (1) dickhead.
Chrissie also thinks this is insane and Rob’s response to that is YOU STILL BETRAYED ME AND THAT HURT BUT I STILL FORGAVE YOU. BECAUSE I LOVE YOU. Fuckin Rob.
Chrissie asks him to gtfo but Robert unsurprisingly selective hears his way around that  - instead he goes through his box of stuff that Chrissie has packed and realises that she’s including a bottle of probably very expensive whiskey that Robert gave her, promising that they would drink it on their tenth wedding anniversary. Robert is like THAT’S STILL POSSIBLE!!!! And Chrissie is like LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOO SON and pours that shit down the sink.
She asks Robert if he loves Aaron, or if he ever loved Aaron and Robert, poor Robert who is still so fucking desperate to be in the closet that I can’t even hate him through any of this and I half wanna give him a little cuddle, Robert lies and says no. Chrissie says that she probably could have forgiven Robert if he’d cheated on her for love (spoiler alert: she couldn’t) but that she can’t believe he would throw them away for “nothing”. She asks Robert if there were other men and Rob’s face says that there were plenty of other men (and other women, what a lil horn dog) and she tells him to get out.
vic trying to speak with robert about his sexuality:
Vic ignores Robert and says, very seriously, that she knows it can’t be easy, “especially for the son of a farmer” and then starts talking about how Jack would have understood and been proud of Robert and Rob can barely even look at her, because he knows how Jack reacted  when he found out and it’s haunted him since he was a teenager. The only fuckin word Rob can get out to Vic is “don’t”, because he can’t talk about this and Jack with her and it’s all just
So sad.
Vic changes tact again and simply asks Robert to be honest with himself, because she just wants him to be with someone who he actually loves.
Rob still looks kind of haunted, but snaps himself out of it so that he can talk about how much he loves Chrissie. Victoria, quite fairly, asks why, if he had all this love for her, he cheated on her AND HE SAYS THE WEAKEST FLIPPIN LITTLE “IT WAS A MISTAKE”
MMHMM
AND THEN, LIKE
SHE’S LITERALLY LIKE
“WHAT WAS SO SPECIAL ABOUT AARON? DID YOU LOVE HIM?”
AND ROBERT FUCKIN SUGDEN JUST SITS THERE AND AFTER LIKE, THE PAUSE OF THE ETERNITY, STUMBLES HIS WAY THROUGH A DENIAL - WELL, ACTUALLY HE SAYS “NO - WHAT DOES IT MATTER ANYWAY? IT’S OVER” SO IT’S FUCKIN BARELY A DENIAL
OL’ VICTORIA DOESN’T GIVE UP THOUGH. SHE SAYS AGAIN THAT HE MUST HAVE BEEN REALLY IMPORTANT TO HIM, SO ROBERT SNAPS AND TELLS HER TO STOP IT. SHE FIGHTS BACK AND SAYS IT’S A SIMPLE QUESTION - “DID YOU LOVE HIM?”
AND ROBERT SAYS “NO, SHUT UP” IN A WAY THAT IS LITERALLY SO UNCONVINCING THAT VICTORIA JUST SITS THERE AND SAYS
“You did, didn’t you?”
He walks out of the room and doesn’t answer her.
And then he decides to move out of the village.
from the above, we can pretty easily glean that at the very least, robert is not comfortable about being out. he’s sort of... desperately scrambling around to not acknowledge what exactly is happening and part of that is him being determined to get back with chrissie in a way that literally involves him having to ignore reality. i think it’s difficult to separate his need to get back with chrissie to his desire to go back into the closet, honestly
but, if we’re saying that robert still wants to be with chrissie at this point, there’s also enough evidence to support this, given that that’s all he spends this entire time trying to do (or at the very least, he spends a lot of time trying to get his hands on her money/embed himself back into the home farm business)
SO THEN ROB GETS SHOT
HE GOES INTO A COMA, AARON FONDLES HIS LIFE SUPPORT AND TELLS HIM TO “HURRY UP AND DIE” AND THEN (unrelated) GETS ARRESTED FOR ROBERT’S ATTEMPTED MURDER, ROBERT WAKES UP AND LEARNS THIS AND SPENDS WEEKS BEING LIKE but how could someone who loves me do something like that AND LOOKING DEVASTATED
and ok firstly, bringing things back round to your question of where robert’s head was at in the aaron vs chrissie war inside of him, i would like to posit the idea that
robert spent a lot of time like.... genuinely upset about aaron potentially having killed him and feeling sad
whereas he was fully ready to believe chrissie would
and honestly between the two of them i’d also probably pin chrissie as more likely to shoot a cheating bitch, but honestly... honestly, i’d just like to remind everyone that if you rewatch, there’s a real difference in robert’s attitude to the possibility that aaron did it and the possibility that chrissie did it (mostly he’s just scared of chrissie lmaoooo)
SO, back to the recap of the story, THEN IN A CONFLUENCE OF ANDY-FEELS-GUILTY-ABOUT-AARON EVENTS, ROB ACCIDENTALLY FINDS OUT THAT ANDY WAS BEHIND THE SHOOTING AND GETS ANDY TO CONFIRM THAT AARON IS IN FACT INNOCENT
lets all rewatch chicken 2.0 guys it’s a masterpiece
a cheeky except from chicken 2.0 wherein i argue that aaron is a fundamental part of this set of events:
Rob once again tries to explain that it was an accident but gives up halfway through, because Andy’s clearly never gonna hear it and then he’s all like “YOU WANNA BELIEVE I KILLED HER? FINE! I KILLED THE BITCH. SO YOU TRIED TO KILL ME. NO, ACTUALLY, YOU GOT SOMEONE ELSE TO DO IT AND THEN YOU LET AARON TAKE THE BLAME”
Aaron taking the blame is a fundamental part of how pissed off Robert is, I need you all to understand this. If anyone else had been in prison, Rob probs wouldn’t have been careening down to the police station to sell Andy to the police quite so fast, let’s all be real here. Like, maybe eventually, but it wouldn’t have been the first thing Robert felt the need to do. Rob’s list of priorities on this day are, in no particular order:
Be upset that his brother hates him enough to try and kill him (again)
Free Aaron
...At the hospital, Vic is demanding answers but neither brother offers up the truth. Once they’re alone, Robert immediately asks Andy what they’re going to do about Aaron, because he can’t go down for something he didn’t do. Andy says he knows and he’ll sort it and then reiterates that he still sort of wants to kill Robert. Robert says that he tried to leave Andy but couldn’t, because no matter what either of them do, they’re brothers. Robert says that Emmerdale is where his family is and he can’t leave.
...Robert leaves and, apparently not content with Andy’s commitment to help Aaron ~~~at some point one day~~~, immediately calls DS Hart and gives a false description of his shooter that clears Aaron’s name.The village reacts and everyone keeps saying the words “Robert got Aaron off” and I laugh every damn time.
THIS IS SO GRATUITOUS BUT I’M HAVING FUN AND ISN’T THAT TRULY WHAT MATTERS HERE
BUT ANYWAY, ALL THIS (FUCKIN 1800 WORDS!!!! YEAH!!!!) TO GET TO MY ACTUAL POINT WHICH IS THE MOMENT THE SHOW MAKES IT CLEAR THAT ROBERT SUGDEN IS NOW IN FACT
ALL AARON ALL THE TIME
CHRISSIE WHOMST
YK
IT STARTS JUST AFTER ROBERT GETS AARON OUT OF JAIL, PER THIS CHEEKY EXCERPT FROM MY BREAK UP POST:
Aaron gets home a few days later and returns as Rob is having a drink in the pub. They make eyes at one another and Aaron texts Robert to meet him outside - apparently to yell at Robert and accuse him of keeping him locked up just to mess with Aaron’s head.
AND IT’S FASCINATING BECAUSE ROB IS ALL SOFT WITH AARON AND WANTS TO MAKE SURE HE’S OK AND AARON IS LIKE “HAHAHAHA I HATE YOU XOXOXO” AND STORMS OFF AND LIKE
THIS IS THE START OF ONE OF MY FAVOURITE UNDERRATED ROBRON PERIODS: THE PERIOD WHERE AARON HATES ROBERT’S GUTS AND ROBERT IS OPENLY HEAD OVER FUCKING HEELS IN LOVE WITH AARON AND KEEPS MANUFACTURING EXCUSES TO SPEND TIME WITH HIM.
IT’S AMAZING.
this is, i must stress, an underrated period in the robron journey and totally slept on, as evidenced by people still believing that robert didn’t actively make a choice to be with aaron this time around, all the way back at the end of 2017/beginning of 2016 and then forever and ever beyond that
and i’m here today to defend this beautiful period with everything i have within me
but also to talk about why robert absolutely and actively chose aaron
n o w, fortunately for me and my argument here, and you might not remember, but the show did this really pointed thing around this time of bringing chrissie back into robert’s life in a way that was kind of really wonderful
so, two things happen
firstly, chrissie’s trial for accidentally killing three people with a helicopter takes place at this time. robert, as a key witness (i.e. the person she was actually trying to kill), gets on the stand and actually vouches for chrissie, largely bc he actually understands that he kind of ruined her entire fuckin life and destroyed their marriage by banging the local mechanic
and then
there’s this little story where chrissie finds out that diane has been diagnosed with cancer and offers to help her pick out some wigs. chrissie’s mum also had cancer and so chrissie is doing this for herself and diane’s benefit, not robert’s - however diane is all very *eyebrow wiggles* so do u wanna get back with my son *eyebrow wiggles*
diane also brings this up with robert and is like hmmm i’m pretty sure there’s hope for you and chrissie yet
this all happens, by the way, at pretty much the same time as aaron is falling apart because gordon is back
now, i need to stress that at this point, chrissie is being a lot more civil with robert than aaron is - aaron is being sort of the opposite of civil. robert has also spent an entire month trying to worm his way back into aaron’s life. chrissie and robert actually genuinely have some nice, if awkward scenes. in contrast every scene aaron has with robert involves aaron insulting robert lmaoooo.
like, if we’re going by who is more receptive to robert’s presence at this time, it’s legit 1000% chrissie. like, she’s not into it, don’t get me wrong - she’s so over robert - but she’s not actively threatening him so??? still an improvement????
except robert is just out there, obsessing over a grumpy scrapper. literally everything he does in this period revolves around aaron. he has laser focus on aaron. which, as we know, legit does not change as they get closer again. robert literally entertains the idea of buying part of the woolpack, purely to engineer some time alone with aaron
(every single person immediately sees through this plan but robert, shiny post-coma robert, is literally shameless and doesn’t care lmao)
he’s just like oh aaron... wouldn’t it be cozy....
SO BACK TO THE ROB/CHRISSIE THING, BECAUSE THE SHOW LEGIT 
LEGIT HAS A SCENE WHERE IT SHOWS US EXACTLY WHERE ROB’S HEAD IS AT
chrissie and kerry are sitting in the woolie chatting and chrissie says shit about how sometimes u just need to move on when u know a person isn’t meant for you
vic and robert are sitting behind her. vic is like, clearly with no shame about the fact that she was just eavesdropping, “did you just hear that?”
rob is like “yeah why should i care?”, looking genuinely unbothered 
vic calls him out and is like “since when have you not been bothered about chrissie”
AND ROBERT
ROBERT GOES
“I’VE GOT MORE IMPORTANT THINGS ON MY MIND.”
AND VIC IS LIKE “....Like?”
(i’m literally just transcribing the scene)
rob goes “LIKE BUYING THIS PLACE!!! YOU HAVE TO HELP CONVINCE DIANE TO SELL IT TO ME”
and vic is all “WELL WHY THE FUCK WOULD YOU WANT IT???” and then she realises that the only reason why rob would want to go into business with chas is because he loves aaron and he’d “put up with anything for him”
so anyway, i could have literally answered ur question by just transcribing this scene, but this was more fun wasn’t it
ANYWAY, with this little scene, we literally see it spelled out for us, nice and clear - robert is interested in getting back with only one ex at this time
a little later, vic mentions to robert that aaron seems to be struggling with gordon being around (which he very much is, plus dealing with the horribly timed discovery that paddy has been cheating on rhona but trying to adopt a child, which really triggers a lot of feelings in aaron, given paddy is his actual father figure) (it’s so rough rip) and robert low key just sort of stalks aaron to try and work out what’s wrong. which is how robert ends up being the one to be there when aaron collapses (and sets the whole ball in motion for aaron to accidentally and then deliberately tell robert about gordon)
this whole sequence of events starts around 14 january 2016, if u wanna go rewatch. it’s amazing.
so anyway.
robert actively chose to be with aaron and wouldn’t have gotten back with chrissie even if she’d been interested. he knew, by that point, and had entirely accepted exactly where his heart really was.
ALSO OK I KNOW YOU ASKED TWO OTHER QUESTIONS BUT LIKE
THIS POST IS ALREADY ALMOST 3000 WORDS LONG AND I HAVE SO MUCH WORK TO DO AND LEGIT I’LL BE HERE ALL DAY I’VE BEEN WRITING THIS FOR FOUR HOURS this is who i am this is my life
AND I CANT EVEN ANSWER THOSE Q’S IN A QUICK WAY SO IM JUST GOING TO PRETEND THEY NEVER HAPPENED AND THEN IF U STILL WANNA KNOW MY THOUGHTS JUST ASK ME AGAIN TOMORROW LMAOOO im sorry this just got too out of hand only rip im actually not even sorry
ok ty goodnight xoox
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