#belialrok

[thekaijudude]

So, you know how the Beliarok is basically a weapon themed after Belial and all? Well, what kind of weapon that was the same as the Beliarok be if it were Ultraman Tregear instead? Like what kind of weapon would it be and what could it do? Also how do you think it would behave and all?

I think this boils back down to the very convenient weaknesses that Greeza has that I talked about extensively back when Z was airing that it all has to do with Reiblood's Reionyx genes (and by extension, the Belial Virus) having some very, very unique properties to merge with a spacetime anomaly's failsafe device to form the Beliarok

I cant comment beyond this since we just simply dk enough about Reiblood at this point

For Toregia, your implicit assumption is that Grimude's power would even interact with the key in the same way the reionyx genes would

Again, no idea as all we know is that Grimude predates the M78 Universe, and the reason for his seal is curiously enough the same reason why Greeza manifested back in Z when Bullton was defeated, to "maintain balance in the universe". Note the similar choice of words used here. In the broader context, we can interpret that both Greeza and Grimude probably live in the space in between universes, which we know exists in the Revenge of Belial Movie

So there would probably be some reaction between Grimude's power and Greeza's key

Tho i highly doubt itll result in something like the Belialrok

But tbh, even the Belialrok's existence is highly ambiguous at this point, since it has free will and we've seen that it is attracted to its progenitors like Geed and Belial, but its inevitably a Reionyx. Why am I saying this is because we know from the leaks that the Regulus special episode (essentially the prelude for UGF4), Reiblood has returned and theoretically, even as a small soul fragment, he should be able to assert enough influence on it same with Geed actually (which is why I said that Geed is actually a ticking time bomb since Reiblood is such a legendary existence)

So I suppose the same logic would apply with this hypothetical Toregiarok. However, Ill have to bring up another point about Grimude thatll differ from Reiblood's circumstance, is that based on the Toregia novel (that is canon), its said that after absorbing some of Grimude's power, Toregia literally gained the ability to be unkillable,

Since every time he dies, another version of him in the multiverse would take his place in whatever universe hes in. So I suspect that this is the same as Grimude. However, for his ability to be this ridiculously overpowered, I suspect that the Grimude we saw itself in the Taiga movie was also but a fragment of something even more grander, similar to the Reiblood soul fragment logic

Tbh, whatever this being is would have to be stronger than Reiblood since we know just how powerful a soul fragment of Reiblood is based on the feats and durability of the one we saw back in NEO and obviously we can see that fragment Grimude is far stronger than fragment Reiblood (assuming each soul fragment is equally powerful of course)

Another point ill have to bring up is that Reiblood is stated dead (as ambiguous and suspicious as that canon statement is since no one knows how he died), but the whereabouts of the being that Grimude is a fragment of is unknown.

So how does all this really translate to your question?

It inevitably comes down to whether it can really have its own free will or nah.

Since for the Beliarok's case, Reiblood is dead, and it was made from Geed's Reionyx genes (Without any of Reiblood's soul fragments) so Reiblood's influence is so diluted by the time it gets to the formation of the Belialrok

For the hypothetical Toregiarok's case, Grimude is obviously far more powerful than Reiblood's soul fragment (im NOT saying Reiblood himself btw) and the true progenitor of Grimude is unknown at this point, but since a fragment is alr so ridiculously powerful, I suspect its still somewhere cruising in the gaps between universes.

By extension, Im scaling this "True Grimude" above Reiblood, especially since the latter was scaled as a Universal Threat whilst Grimude himself predated the universe, so it wont be far fetched to say that Grimude himself was a universal threat, especially since his sealing was neccessary to "maintain the balance of the universe", by extrapolation, True Grimude would probably be a multi-universal threat at least if we go off the scaling of Reiblood's soul fragment to Reiblood's stated feats

Thus, imo itll be far more powerful than the Belialrok, with far more influence over spacetime such as what we saw with Grimude and Toregia, but on a lesser scale. But as said, assuming the progenitor is still alive, no idea to what extent itll have a will of its own, or simply another Grimude

Ye this answer got off the rails real quick since all this is very much deep-cut, bottom-of-the-iceberg stuff, especially since we're talking about something even older than universes, potentially even older than the DoL which I scaled approximately 10^9000x stronger than an average New Gen so inevitably we're talking about existences that are far, far beyond the Legendary Ultras

Thanks for the question!

#ultraman #asks

[anautisticaquarius]

Still kinda... ya know...

over the fact that Yuki Ono, a.k.a. Balance/Tenbin Gold, A.K.A. Ultraman Belial/Belialrok, A.K.A. JOSUKE FREAKING HIGASHIKATA, gave Korone a MAXED-OUT SUPERCHAT... just so she could get a new fridge.

...only to find out she'd already gotten a new fridge by that point.

#yuki ono #ultraman #ultraman belial #belialrok #super sentai #uchuu sentai kyuranger #tenbin gold #balance #jjba #jjba 4 #diamond is unbreakable #jojo's bizzare adventure #jojo's bizzare adventure diamond is unbreakable #josuke higashikata #hololive #inugami korone #yubi yubi

[veeranger]

have we ever pointed out that belialrok does the un, deux, trois thing from royal megamaster

#Apple Post

[cina-full-moon-xanadium]

my brain is infected i saw this and thought it said belialrok

#the king who controls desire

[thekaijudude]

Zerok, yes its apparently a thing

So this catalog leak from China popped up around the fandom (on several sources) over the last week which I honestly thought it was just a joke or just China making up some extra merch like they always do (tho I had some suspicion since they never came up with a whole new device like this), which is why I waited for so long to finally cover this

But with the recent news of Z returning in Trigger, I really can't say the same with the same amount of confidence at this point

I mean this isn't any confirmation but man if the Belialrok is a thing, I can definitely see TsuPro doing this

And I guess yea it makes sense design-wise as the blade of the Zerok is above its head, rather than below with the Belialrok

(Dosent make it look any less ridiculous I agree)

Tho I massively doubt that it'll have sentience like the Belialrok (Tho ill be terrified to know if it turns out that it has, but then again its not entirely unexplainable tbh)

As for how this might come to be would be either Z makes his way back to the LoL before making his way wherever Trigger is (not touching on the relative position of Trigger's Universe in post cause I know this has major implications of where Trigger is) and requests this by having the Science Bureau replicate the technology from the Belialrok since hes such a big fan of Zero or he requests this with GUTS Select which is also possible since they bother to issue Haruki an AE and Original Hyper Key

Man this is gonna be wild, hope Z dosent overshadow Trigger and end up pissing off the die-hard Tiga fans that got into Trigger thinking that its gonna be a simple reboot with vanilla twists to the original series

#ultraman #ultraman trigger

[thekaijudude]

Ultraman Z confirmed to return in Trigger

The rumors were confirmed by TsuPro just in

And apparently Haruki will be using the GUTS Spark Lens and an AE Hyper Key to transform (As seen in the pic)

Which means something is gonna happen to the Z Riser

But then it's kinda useless if Haruki can just straight up still use an AE Hyper Key, and I suppose his other forms as well

Kinda sucks cause it kinda invalidates the point of not being able to access the Ultra Fusion forms and was kinda looking forward to some base Z, Belialrok and Z Lance Arrow action

Hopefully we can at least still see base Z's transformation sequence and perhaps shed more light on his backstory (maybe its linked to whatever's happening in Trigger?)

So this kinda fills up the remaining slots of the unknown Ultra Keys automatically

U-01: Multi

U-02: Power

U-03: Sky

U-04: Dark

U-05: Z Base

U-06: AE

U-07: BS

U-08: GF

U-09: DRC

(Tho thus far rumors only confirmed keys for Original and AE, which leaves 3 slots still)

Which means that Glitter will remain an inaccessible form under ordinary circumstances for Trigger like with Tiga which I suppose is being consistent with Glitter forms being accessible to really any ultra that's simply supercharged which I definitely can roll with

(Tho it's technically still possible to attain empowered versions of U-01 to U-04 via the Eternity Core, just without them being seperate keys)

Definitely kinda sucks cause its a really cheap method to nerf Z when he basically isn't nerfed

I mean at the most you can take away the 3 Z Riser-access attacks? But then again just the Belialrok and the Z Lance Arrow is already kinda OP enough for Z even as base

Unless Z is just gonna make a pitstop for an ep or two in the series to get his Z Riser fixed since I'm under the impression that TsuPro still intends to be somewhat 'faithful' to the original Tiga series. But if Z ends up being a main character as well with Haruki, I really have no idea if it'll hurt the series since most fans that got into Trigger was under the impression that this is a standalone series

But then again if there's an interesting way that they can tie Z into Trigger to make it an even better series and move away from bring purely a Tiga reboot series, I'd suppose we'll have to see cause this is really deeper into uncharted territory at this point, first releasing a reboot series and then featuring cameos of past ultras throughout the series to this extent

(Also I know this new development immediately points to the possibility that Z may be a main Universe Dark Giant descendent theory that I posted about months ago but I wanna wait till we have more clues cause I can still see this going various ways at this point)

#ultraman #ultraman trigger

[thekaijudude]

Since you are a huge Greeza fanboy, how would you write a movie story with Greeza as it's main threat?

Tbh there's really alot of different possibilities (but then again also not alot as you'll see why later) since the whole thing about Greeza's existence seems to be inherently tied to Universes themselves which even till this day, is basically uncharted territory

And there's a few ways we can interpret this

One, being that Greezas are simply a natural way for Universes to 'correct' itself of irrationalities. Take the example of what happened in Z, and the Greeza that was created by the Universe was simply the Universe's way of replacing Bullton as an irrationality to maintain balance between its rational and irrational aspects. Basically Greeza is sort of the same existence as beings like Reugosite. And if Reugosite is akin to a white blood cell of a body, the Greeza would be something like a platelet.

But tbh, considering just how dangerous Greeza is, I'd like to go with my other interpretation. That being Greeza is a being from outside of existence, perhaps they exist between the spaces of Universes which implies that they're from wherever Grimude was from. This tallies well with the whole idea that Greeza technically dosent 'exist' which was basically the idea that was introduced in X and reiterated in Z.

And then there's then another few ways to go about this.

One could be about with the increasing appearances of various Greezas around the Multiverse, the Ultras decide to investigate this 'Plane of Non-existence' by purposely creating a portal to it via removing beings of irrationality like Bullton in an controlled environment only to find that there are other beings like Greeza in those dimensions, and this is basically massive Universe building plot which is more akin to a UGF season rather than a movie

But in order for such a premise to be a movie and be Greeza-focused, I can simply change around the above aspects and say that the only beings that exist in that dimension are various forms of Greeza. And this could be a direct sequel to the Taiga movie as one could interpret Grimude as a being of irregularity. But because he's not only extremely strong, but also extremely ancient (He's older than the main Universe iirc), his disappearance may have cause a huge distortion in space which released alot of Greezas.

(Of course to be consistent, Grimude wouldn't have to be 'dead' but perhaps just tp'ed to another Universe by virtue of Toregia which we all know is something that he can do anyways)

So the Ultras decide to nip the bud by equipping Ultras with weapons containing the Belial Virus (This development was due to them studying the Belialrok from Z), only to find that at the centre of it all, the whole reason that such 'auto-correcting' function of the universe exists, is not by virtue of the Universe itself, but a super-evolved and advanced Greeza that has been attempting to slowly corrupt its Universe counterpart by taking advantages of distortions to send in parts of itself

Then from here, there's various ways the Ultras can go about tackling this issue

So as you can see, while there's many ways to write a story based on how you interpret Greeza's existence, it's severely limited by just how broken he is as a character. Thus, it's very vague and general still cause tbh Greeza is way too broken. And without better understanding of why the Belial Virus specifically can counter Greeza and how the Universe works in this aspect, its quite hard to come up with a story that makes sense canonically as even canon hasn't even started to go down any of these paths at all

Thanks for the question!

#ultraman #asks

[thekaijudude]

If any Ultras were came to Trigger's world, their transformation Device will be banned due to Trigger's worlds rule just like Z.

Essentially yeah

But my question is why is there a need to do so?

Before Trigger in Z and Geed, it makes sense cause there's a need to nerf the predecessor ultras to fit into the concurrent power scale

Like in Geed, Zero's Ultimate Bracelet was damaged due to overuse but he was able to transform with the Zero Eye Neo, just that he can't access any of his other forms

And then he was able to use the Geed Riser to access a new form being ZB

In Z, Geed's Riser was damaged due to Gilvaris but he got the Z Riser and could basically transform using it into P as well as having access to GR

But now in Trigger it makes zero sense on why there's a need to since there's no attempt of nerfing Z cause he basically still has all his forms, at the most is that he can't access the Z Riser attacks like M78 Tornado Slash, Lightning Generaid and Galaxy Burst (which tbh, doesn't even matter since the Belialrok and Z Lance Arrow are actually better than those)

And Z doesn't even gain any new forms from such a development (other than potentially the Zerok weapon but we can't even say for sure that its legit at this point)

So I really have no idea what they're trying to achieve at this point with such a setting

#ultraman #ultraman trigger #asks

[veeranger]

belialrok is kind of like riku’s fucked up little brother 

#Apple Post

[thekaijudude]

Bruh isn't this just a better-looking Bulky Chorus? Holy shit it looks amazing

Bruh now the Belialrok is broken

I mean this is Belial so I can see why

And once again, BEAUTIFUL visuals

#ultraman #ultraman z