#bc just borgiacest

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I found this in my drafts and I think I’m just going to leave it here like a nice little start-of-the-week Borgiacest cliffhanger

Happy Monday!

#so now it’s just this mutual devotion on replay forever #bc just Borgiacest

[shipcestuous]

If I may get on my soapbox for a minute, having just binged the borgias for the first time in about two weeks - Cesare/Lucrezia is wonderfully done in season 3 when they *do* do it, but you can def see that Jordan wasn't keen on making it the main plot even though it really should've been. The best episodes are 3 and 4 and they just sort of... drop it until the end, and everything else apart from Cesare's arc is essentially filler. Kudos to Francois saying 'yeah obviously we played it like this from the beginning 🤷‍♂️'. I've wondered if the reason borgias: apocalypse wasn't made was partially bc the execs sensed a negative fan reaction.

Welcome to the Borgiacest club!

I'm agreed on all counts, Anon.

It's amazing that Jordan executed Ces/Lu so well in early/mid season 3 when he clearly was not enthusiastic about the incest angle. Siblings is SUCH great episode and the build-up and tension and fall out are amazing.

I don't like to even think about The Borgia Apocalypse. When it was first being spread around on tumblr, I think Apocalypse was just a nickname for it because it sucked so bad. Turns out it was the real title. I think it was garbage all around, and not just for the knife it stuck into Ces/Lu. All I can say is that the execs did good that time.

The cancellation was a mercy for shippers, I'm sure season 4 would have gone down a similar path. It was what Jordan wanted.

#asks #anonymous #cesare and lucrezia: all #cesare and lucrezia: the borgias #the borgias #cesare and lucrezia: the borgias: commentary #commentary #noiv #nr

[abushelandablog]

Simon and Daphne are cute no argument there, same w Kate and Anthony- if not even more cute... yet my dumb shipper brain is overwhelmingly drawn to these two

#you truly esteem me so little— ugh he loves her so much and the even me scene i can’t #yes i know they’re siblings no i don’t give a shit bc its not real and also tis the regency era- incest was definitely common #anyways if daphne maybe just simply banged her brother... #bridgerton spoilers #otp: even you #cw: incest #antis dni #listen they just remind me of borgiacest and jalex- i have a type okay! #bridgerton #anthony x daphne

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one  day  i  will  get  to  write  my  guilty  pleasure  ships

onE  DAY

#it's mareven from the red queen series #and borgiacest but JUST from the show the borgias #bc i didn't watch faith and fear #crazy bird lady. » out of character. #also listen ok i never said i wasn't ashamed for shipping these things #i just do

[weslieislost]

For my Borgiacest family friends out there, do you know of any BOOKS where the main couple with a heart-wrenchingly forbidden and close relationship like Lucrezia and Cesare? Incestuous and Historical included would be awesome, and I know this is asking for basically the impossible-there is no romance like Lucrezia and Cesare. But I’m having MAJOR WITHDRAWAL SYMPTOMS and I need a book/books.

P.S. No fanmade stories. Like actual published works.

Thank you for having pity on my poor soul.

#borgiacest #cesare x lucrezia #cesare borgia #Lucrezia borgia #the borgias #bc just borgia #please save my life #I'm dying #I miss them so much

[maurawrites]

gif maker asks: 24 - 35

Questions for gif-makers.

24. 480p 720p 1080p? What is the minimum quality you’ll gif from

Honestly, it all depends on how bad I need the resources/want to gif the person. Generally I try not to go under 720p tho

25.  Old dimensions or new dimensions and why

honestly i don’t even know what the old/new dimensions are, i pretty much only post with two dimensions that i sorta made up? 270x170 and 250x150

26. How many un posted sets are in your drafts right now

I don’t have any in my drafts, but I have like....12 in my queue

27. Have you ever made a set, decided you hated it and deleted it? What was it

I’ve never /hated/ one, but I’ve been like...I don’t like the flow of it, and deleted it before it ever went on my blog

28. Have you ever posted a set, regretted it and immediately deleted it

A few, mostly of ships that I know other people don’t really approve of (cough cough borgiacest cough cough), and i’m like....can’t let them know i’m a freak™

29. Have you ever posted a set, realized you made a mistake later but it was already too late

Seeing as I don’t generally add subtitles or something, the only mistakes i’ve really made are like....forgetting to change the frame rate? then i just fix it but generally don’t worry too much about it.

30. How frequently do you like to post

Gifpacks I don’t really have a set time for, I just post ‘em when I’m finished (although every once in awhile if it’s of a TV show actor, I’ll challenge myself to get it out the night the ep premiered, or the day after).  For gifsets, I do try and post two a day (1 at 10 am and 1 at 10pm), but sometimes i forget to queue shit so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

31. Do you schedule/queue posts or do you post right after you’re done

Post gifpacks as soon as they’re done and queue gif posts

32. What is your favorite tool/adjustment layer in Photoshop

Honestly despite using PS for like over a year now i pretty much know how to do nothing. i import, throw a psd on top, crop and resize and i’m done tbh.

33. Do you like to/can you make edits and graphics too or only gifs

I can make graphics, although a lot of the tactics I use are just rudimentary bs that i brought over from my gimp days

34. A set that took you a long time/was really hard but you’re really proud of how it came out

like i said, i ain’t doing anything fancy, so I don’t have one that i’m!!! super proud of.  Although, there might be a few times when i did like text or a texture overlay in gimp or something that i’m proud of just because it was so fucking tedious to do it on there.  also i have some crackships that look really damn real and i’m like yaaasss

35. Do you change your giffing style a lot or do you have a set routine

A set routine, and honestly it’s the only reason i can make gifs so fast bc at this point it’s pretty mindless

#ask meme answers #-pixiegaga

[i-am-borgia]

First and last scene of the Borgias with Lucrezia and Cesare

#grew #the Borgias #Cesare Borgia #Lucrezia Borgia #holliday grainger #cesare x lucrezia #cesarean #probably the most extreme and disconcerting case of character growth I've yet seen hahaha #i'm just imagining Neil Jordan being on the other side of the room and saying Cheers to all the people #who watched the first episode and were like Yeah this will turn out great & healthy #no but kidding aside this is how you build a story #best build-up of a romantic storyline ever and it does actually show how both Cesare and Lucrezia as well #since Cesare is now the big bad boy history makes him out to be with blood all over him & his need to control everyone around him & #his limited capacity for love apparently since most of it seems to be going to his sister at this point haha #and Lucrezia losing that sprarkly innocence and being all accepting of him and of a darker kind of love #damn my heart hurts everytime i see that last scene #bc just Borgiacest

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the look on Alfonso's face will never not be funny

Y'all the System keeps messing my tags all the way up and I'm not about to shorten them so here they are, coherent for once:

So, I've been critical in the past of Lucrezia's reasons for turning to Cesare *physically*, because every time she does so her trigger is being rejected by Alfonso in one way or another. Now, I will admit that seducing one's brother is never a mundane or average reaction when rejected, but social convention aside, this specific reaction bothers me because it seems to showcase Lucrezia's low self-esteem and her love/trust issues. Obviously she and Cesare both suffer from this to some measure, partly because they've been low-key in love with each other their whole lives (sorry Neil), but to make that the thing that pushed Lucrezia over the edge seems like Red Flags Class 101. But rewatching this scene gave me a slightly different perspective that I wanted to throw out there in a bunch of messy and unasked-for tags:

I know that Lucrezia was on a campaign to woe Alfonso into sleeping with her (which couldn't possibly have anything to do with her nascent suspicion that Cesare killed Juan for her, which I do believe got the incestuous mess of season 3 rolling officially), but I don't think that explains her behaviour in this scene. The air is frigid until she mentions Cesare - ostensibly trying to warn Alfonso that Cesare can act like a psychopath when anyone tries to have a discussion with him about Lucrezia, but in reality she gets mentally side-tracked when she starts talking about Cesare's passions and how they're so intense when it comes to his "family". Immediately after she gets all touchy and affectionate towards Alfonso, kissing him etc., when Alfonso clearly looks turned off. He gives her the most awkward laugh in the universite and then randomly leaves (even though he was hardly in danger of losing his virginity, I mean, come on). Lucrezia stares off into space with this discontented but determined expression - and THAT is when she thinks about the conversation and realizes she knows darn well how intense Cesare's passions are towards her. She pays him a visit not long after, and can't go five minutes before making a suggestive remark and basically rubbing up against him. Cesare just happens to be feeling his oats because he's trying on armour, I suppose, and "chastily" kisses her (in the exact same way Lucrezia kisses Alfonso) and things start falling into place for Lucrezia. As some sort of final test, she invites Ces to her room, and the damage is officially done.

Now, looking at it this way, her decision to go to Cesare's room during the wedding or her decision to receive him naked are less about her insecurity invoked by Alfonso's rejection of her, but rather his rejection and the problem with her child (let's keep in mind that Cesare failed to fix that for her and yet she pulled more to him than to Alfonso) seemed to have caused her to feel more secure about the nature of her bond with Cesare - so even though there's a lot of insecurity in her, low self-esteem etc., opting to go to Cesare was her solution for the problem, finding that missing piece of the puzzle. If Cesare, who did not have this same "awakening", had not rejected her time and again after the wedding, I doubt she would have suffered so much from their relationship. She admits to it, really: she keeps searching Cesare out and never tries to pretend that her love for him is planotic. So my closing argument for today, Your Honour (lol), is that that notion originated more or less in this scene.

I'm also starting to see why my tags didn't fit.

Have a lovely weekend everyone!

#the Borgias #cesare x lucrezia #Lucrezia Borgia #cesare borgia #I think this is the longest explanation I've ever given for a tacky gifset but I like to think it's all about the spirit #hope you enjoy it #and if u don't #or if ur wondering if I have brothers (someone asked me that once hahaha go ask Neil Jordan or François Arnaud or Holliday Grainger #and let the rest of us pour our morally void hearts into the most impossible of ships) #anyway if u don't #actually I forgot what I was going to type #if u don't then that's okay too haha #bc just Borgiacest

[i-am-borgia]

I really wish that one particular scene hadn't focused so much on Lucrezia. I would have killed to have a close-up of Cesare's face too. What was his expression like? Was he looking at Lucrezia in adoration? Was his face betraying the desire of a dream come true or utter fear of damnation??

I know François put all of his acting legend forward in that scene and I am low-key bitter we don't really get to see it.

I couldn't agree more! They focus on Cesare in the beginning of the 3x03 scene and then it's all on Lucrezia. I get that they wanted to focus more on her, since she took most of the iniative and it was her wedding night (lol), but even so... I would have been okay with flashbacks or a longer scene. At least they did a behind-the-scenes for the episode..

#the Borgias #Cesare Borgia #Lucrezia Borgia #cesare x lucrezia #I also often wish they included the morning-after scene #like Lucrezia had to have gotten out of that bed at one point #done the walk of shame #and cesare sitting on the side of his bed in the mornign thinking oh no what did i do oh no oh no but then he had to get up #and do politics with his father #i can't even imagine (but also i can i have like a thousand scenarios) #maybe since Neil still has to make up for giving us that tragic movie script instead of a fourth season #(which I'm sure would have been tragic too if I'm honest) #the considerate thing to do would be to release all the outtakes and additional shots n'est pas? #bc just Borgiacest

[i-am-borgia]

- Neil Jordan on directing the Borgiacest storyline in Showtime’s The Borgias

#the borgias #cesare x lucrezia #holliday grainger #françois arnaud #cesare borgia #lucrezia borgia #im genuinely sorry for this hahahaha #It’s just I was scrolling through some gifs and rewatching the borgias as one does #and inkeep thinking damn these two are literally always hyper tuned into each other or something #and I like how Neil was apparently like yeah no we’re not doing the incest storyline #but then season 3 came and holly and Francois were like Yeah sorry Neil guess that’s on us #also the degree of escalation is like #oddly minimal?? #if you think about it #Crezia just always sort of stares dreamily into dpace when he kisses her like hold up let me just leave my body for a sec #and they be talking about knowing each other’s hands so well #but he’s been looking at her lips so much he must have the intro of the Rocky Horror Picture show in his mind every time he closes his eyes #poor Neil though hahaha #anyhow sorry for putting this terrible sound in this vid!! a necessary evil #bc just borgiacest #sometimes I wish I’d never seen the Borgias so I could watch it again and be pleasantly surprised

[i-am-borgia]

I wanted to do a sweet Ces/Crezia hugging-meme because I felt like it but then I noticed Rodrigo standing in the corner like

#the borgias #cesare boriga #lucrezia borgia #francois arnaud #holliday grainger #cesare x lucrezia #rodrigo borgia #jeremy irons #honestly i laughed so hard when i noticed #everyone in this scene is hilarious #like ces is looking and trouching crezia like shes an absolute goddess #and the whole narrowly avoiding massive destruction of the city" plot was organized just for her amusement #crezia is acting as if cesare just won the national pageant for big boys #then giulia is not really doing anything except trying to GET IN THERE EXCEPT CESARE IS LITERALLY NOT LOOKING AT HER OR MINDING HER AT ALL #srsly she's talking to him but he never once looks away from lucrezia omg i feel kind of bad for giulia #and finally there's rodrigo who's having some serious processing issues #like he just found out what's going to happen on episode three of season three #y'all know what i mean #bc just Borgiacest

[i-am-borgia]

Cesare and Lucrezia: Parallels

#the Borgias #Lucrezia Borgia #Cesare Borgia #cesare x lucrezia #Holliday Grainger #Francois Arnaud #honestly this is cute af #like noooo don't walk away from me I love you let me make it better for youuu #and let me just point out this thing #where Cesare immediately goes to see his father and sort of lays into him about not being so hard on Lucrezia #What with him refusing to let Vanozza get into the marriage ceremony #and Lucrezia for her part in the second one #gives the cardinals a look that is straight up #GUYS YOU FCKING UPSET HIM SEE WHAT YOU DID YOU UPSET HIM I WILL POISON YOU LATER AND DON'T THINK I WONT #CUZ YOU KNOW THAT I KNOW MY WAY AROUND CANTARELLA #which is not a real poison but the threat still counts right #oh lol and Giulia in the back is comforting Lucrezia for getting upset that Cesare is upset #these two honestly break me down into pieces #bc just Borgiacest

[i-am-borgia]

Here’s an update on the La Morte series - which is now a series, because I just couldn’t resist. It is listed as part two, but it is in fact the prelude to Lucrezia’s story - starting on the very night that Cesare Borgia drives a knife into his brother's stomach and throws him into the Tiber and ending after Lucrezia Borgia makes the fateful decision to seek out her brother in his chambers. I’m two chapters in, but the third will come out soon, I expect.

Fandom: The Borgias (Showtime TV) Rating: Mature Series: Part 2 of La Morte Borgia Summary: Cesare has just done the unforgiveable: fratricide. Thinking this a logical and necessary act, he considers himself unphased - while in reality, that ultimate murder is the symbol of much more than politics or mere pragmaism. Years of built-up tensions and repressed feelings within Cesare come to the surface, and dramatically restructure not only his life but the dynamics of his entire family. As his relationship with his father becomes more strained than ever, another relationship is slowly pushing itself centre stage, until it has Cesare firmly in its grip.

#the Borgias #Cesare Borgia #Lucrezia Borgia #Cesare x Lucrezia #another fanfiction #I've been asked to give the two a happier ending (I mean in a way they had a happy ending in the last chapter of Lucrezias but u know) #and Ive found that I can't do that just yet #I might in the end write a sequel #in fact the scenes are already pressing on my frontal lobe or whatever #but idk not fro now #maybe i can't write happy endings #like I don't think ever ever written one #does that reflect something deeper and more meaningful i wonder #oh whatever the world is one bigh gothic love story and those don't have no good endings they just have endings #if even that #bc just Borgiacest #(also don't you just love this picture?? The drama is perfection)

[i-am-borgia]

Chapters: 9: Les Contretemps Series: Part 2 of La Morte Borgia

I had a lot of free time recently that I probably should have used to get other matters in order, but instead I worked on this story - so I’m super stressed out, but chapter 1-9 are all out there so it kind of balances out. Anyway, Cesare is dealing with what he did to his brother and has the additional problem that his feelings for Lucrezia are changing (”getting a bit deeper”, to use the words of François Arnaud himself) - or, depending on how one looks at things, his feelings are consolidating. Spoiler: at least one of the siblings is naked in the last chapter I added.

#the Borgias #Cesare Borgia #Lucrezia Borgia #Cesare x Lucrezia #ao3 stuff #La Morte Borgia #writing this is so satisfying #possibly more so than Lucrezia's story was #and actually that's kind of depressing because #I feel like Cesare is less limited in what he can do and how he can move around (realistically speaking) because he's a man #I mean obviously it's all fiction and Lucrezia has a bunch of servants to command and stuff but for propriety's sake there are limits #but to be fair #Cesare's life is arguably harder right now #i mean love the drama and it's kind of his own fault but you gotta feel sorry for him #anyway tell me what you think cuz i love to hear! #bc just Borgiacest

[i-am-borgia]

CATULUS 85 X THE BORGIAS | Part 2

Quare id faciam, fortasse requiris. Nescio.

Why I do so, you may ask. I do not know.

#the Borgias #Lucrezia Borgia #Cesare Borgia #Holliday Grainger #Francois Arnaud #Lucrezia x Cesare #this scene had so much potential am I right #and you gotta admit that cesare is sending a LOT of mixed signals all through season 3 #like here she's saying uhm we're perfect for each other #and he's stroking and agreeing #and then when she does the obvious thing in trying to kiss him he's like #girlllll WHAT are you doing #who's the tease here?? #but it's all okay because at the end of the day he'll come to his senses sort of #just a pity that a lot of people had to die for it #and that crezia kind of has a 'pls let no man die for me again' policy #anyway i thought the second part of the catullus poem was fitting for this specific scene #the whole why i do so why are we cursed and the i have no idea' kind of vibe #what a sad love story this is goody #bc just Borgiacest