#anyway anyway this is making me want to branch out on Lenegis again but we know thats another can worms

[konfizry]

Renans and their names

So. This “formative background” bit makes it sound like Renan names give information on the person’s.... skills? But that doesn’t seem to be the case, if you look at the little info they give you in the materials guide. 

Renan full names are more or less confirmed to be Helganquil code put in place for classification purposes. The meanings of Shionne, Dohalim and Vholran’s names are given in their respective character sheets. Below is a tentative breakdown of the names with their translation. 

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シオン・ヴィメル・アイメリス・ダイモ 

Shion Vimeru Aimerisu Daimo (localized Shionne Vymer Imeris Daymore)

meaning Shionne, 33rd gen, Imer lineage, Dayn ethnicity. 

テュオハリム・メルケル・イルルケリス・ナアモ

Tyuoharimu Merukeru Irurukerisu Naamo (localized Dohalim Melqal il Qaras Na'amo by @IdyllicTales on twitter)

meaning Dohalim, 32nd gen, il Qu clan, Naha ethnicity.

ヴォルラーン・ライ・アングサリ・ライモ

Voruraan Rai Angusari Raimo  (localized Vholran Lai Igniseri Laimore (i had to improvise the Lai and Laimore part myself don’t hit me))

meaning Vholran, gen N/A, special adjustment index, ethnicity: N/A

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thus, Renan naming structure seems to go as follows: Given name, generation number, family line, ethnicity. 

(typically, in-game and in the guide, the translation is given in reverse order, commencing with the general (ethnicity) going towards the specific (given name)

e.g. “Ethnicity: N/A, Unique Adjustment Index, Generation: N/A, Given Name Alphen”)

Following this pattern, Alphen would be Alphen Lai Igniseri Laimore in Helganquil code. (if you remember, in the Forbidden Zone computer room, he’s given the same “Ethnicity: N/A, Unique Adjustment Index, Generation: N/A” treatment as Vholran, given that they’re both Dahnans, so they didn’t get engineerd, scrutinized and classified the way Renans were. So basically every Dahnan’s name is <Given Name> Lai Igniseri Laimore as far as the Helganquil are concerned)

Now. About this Nth Generation business...

Like, Dohalim is from the 32nd generation since... when exactly? The establishment of Lenegis as a place of living for Renans? Meaning that that first batch of kidnapped Dahnans with astral artes affinity that became the first Renans would have been 1st generation? That seems to make some amount of sense. If a generation is something like about 25 years give or take, that would mean the First Renans were established on Lenegis something like 800 years ago. Thus, when Alphen was brought to Lenegis, people had been living there for a good 500 years. I dunno about y’all but I’m willing to believe it. 

If that’s the case, we can theorize Naori’s full name to have been Naori <Helganquil for≈20> Imeris Daymore. Isn’t this Fun!

#arise resources #tales of arise #obviously no self respecting dahnan would call themselves that full name #and like honestly i wonder what kind of relationship a Renan finding out their name's true meaning would have with it #your name's secret meaning is......... #White individual of the McSandwich lineage's 87th generation commonly called Kayleigh #anyway anyway this is making me want to branch out on Lenegis again but we know thats another can worms #The family line descriptor used for shionne’s full name translation is 系統 while for Dohalim it’s 氏系 #what do we do with this information? i don't know #i don't know these words i don't know why twi different vocables were used i don't know anything #i hope my little screenshot is clear enough i don't think its clear at all actually #like. like. #Imeris means Imer lineage in Helganquil #Daymore means Dayn Ethnicity and so on and so forth #of maybe Ethnicity: Dayn #listen idk how helgan works don't look at me we're just having fun and losing our minds here #or* not of*