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#and while both have excessive violence the matrix still has like... it isnt *as* excessive ig?
a-passing-storm · 1 year
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I started watching the Terminator movies, and I... meh. Terminator 1 was Not That Interesting to me, and Terminator 2 had a better premise (imo), but it just... none of it Sits Well with me. (My issue is I’m comparing it to the Matrix.) (I typed this all in the tags but I think I passed the tag limit so that sucks.)
#okay my main issue#besides how badly they treated mr dyson who like... i dont think did anything wrong since he had no way of knowing what was gonna happen#is that like... 1. that im comparing it to the matrix lol#2. that the way the matrix glorifies guns and has mindless violence just feels different than the way terminator does it#or like the matrix has a good general discussion of human hubris and like how There Should Be A Line with machines but i feel like#terminator doesn't have the same degree of nuance in terms of like... i genuinely think dyson was just trying to like make a cool tech thing#like a nerd! and then down the line it got corrupted (probably by big corporations idk im not paying a lot of attention)#also one of the things that is really fascinating to me about the matrix is like... i like to think about machine sentience#and the matrix has a lot of room for complexity with like#agent smith clearly feeling hatred and having a sense of self-preservation#so do brown and jones when they run away from like neo at the end of movie one#whereas like it is so uncomfortable to assign sentience to the terminator bc he just Does whatever the kid tells him to do#(which reminds me of lost in space but i found the robot in lost in space more compelling than the terminator actually)#(probably because the robot protected the kid Because the kid saved him and he also questioned what the kid told him to do)#but idk i find the terminator to like... not be a particularly compelling robot (maybe it gets better later im only at movie 2)#and while both have excessive violence the matrix still has like... it isnt *as* excessive ig?#im also admittedly incredibly biased#but like yeah i dont really like the terminator series so far#one thing i really didnt like abt movie one is that like (presumably) the gimmick is that the viewer doesn't know about the time travel#and its like 'woahhh [the guy idk his name] is johns dad'#but i was Not Surprised at all#or like 'woah the picture is the same picture'#and both have the like If You Encounter This Robot Just Run You Can't Win#which i think in the terminator would be wayyyyy better suited to a horror movie than an action movie#because then theres genuine suspense and its not boring that theyre just running bc thats the whole point#but w/ terminator it was kinda like... theyre hyping up that its an unbeatable bad guy but for like no reason#because it doesnt actually raise the stakes#since you know at the least sara's gotta survive#i have so much more to say but i think my tags are gonna get cut off anyway#rip
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