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bleachbleachbleach · 2 years

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Hope you don't mind me asking, but as I've seen you have access to the Japanese version of the manga, do you also have access to the Japanese versions of the bleach data books? I ask because I've wondered how accurately viz media translated them given how they can be off the mark with the manga. Have a nice day!

Short answer: Yes, we do! But we use them as reference works, parachuting into whatever section we need, rather than reading them cover to cover. (lol I say this as though this is somehow different than how we use the manga)

B3-size answer: I don't personally bear the Viz translations any ill will! Sometimes it's silly, or imprecise, but also often charming and creative. I feel like a lot of the English-speaking fandom has probably sampled from both the Viz and various fan scanlations, each with their own flavor, and our English-speaking fandom owes a lot to all of these translations. The plot is still the plot and more importantly, the characters are still the characters--and if these things can carry into English-language fanworks that display all the nuance and beauty that are these characters' just deserts, then that's a translator’s job well done.

The Viz translation team also has much better Japanese than either of us do. We do not actually speak this language. We have a smattering of HS language classes from the distant past, some experience with translation theory, and well-developed research skills in a trenchcoat. But most of that trenchcoat is still filled out by our extreme and deeply inefficient hyperfixation on Bleach. So we'll sit and linger over the poesy of Aizen's taunts, or think about lines in the context of canon established 100 pages prior, or spend time wordsmithing the EXACT register we think our blorbos would strike. We derive a lot of pleasure from spending infinite time working through literary translations of their insensate yelling in the same way a fan artist might lovingly learn their body language or proportions.

Which is probably not true of the Viz translators, by and large, who have deadlines and probably too much work to do and almost certainly don't get paid enough to go all "Shakespeare is more beautiful in the original Klingon" on every random bubble. (Which is not to say that we are doing anything beautiful, LOL. We don't speak this language! Just have blorbovision.) It’s a different kind of project.

Do I think that sometimes the Viz translations would have benefitted from a script supervisor to keep track of continuity? Sure. But they probably aren't paying one! WHATTUP CAPITALISM.

I think that goes double-true of the databooks, which to us might be holy biblical apocrypha but to Viz are appendices. Second fiddle stuff. So there's a lot of typos, lol. And I'm sure if one were to read them over, a lot of things that don't feel *quite* right because the translator isn't a cave-dwelling Tumblrina thinking about 20-year old manga all day.

To give you an idea of the kinds of inconsistencies we're talking about, I broke out my English copy of the SOULs character data book and a quick perusal revealed some things like:

--Ishida Ryuuken is referred to as both "Ryûgen" and "Ryûken" interchangeably, depending on the page.

--Renji and Byakuya share a data page, and their birthdays are switched on the info panels.

--There's a single paragraph in which Hinamori is referred to as both Hinamori and Momo, which just feels like someone was very rushed and did not proof for consistency.

These mistakes aren't in the JP version, as far as I can tell. But also, I don't think these things bother the typical Bleach fan as much as they bother me (nor are they mistakes that are important overall).

#bleach language #bleach translation #SOULs character book

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caffeinelemur · 24 days

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🍉🥦🎲😇📚

Hi!!! Thanks!! Here come some probably-not-very-coherent but very rambling answers that I hope can satisfy, feel free to ask follow up questions if you want~

🍉 Fruit:

Strawberries!!!!!! The ultimate fruit and the ultimate flavor!!

I fuckin love berries!! Blueberries, raspberries~ Most berries are great. Except blackberries. (Gooseberries!!! More people need to realize the goodness of gooseberries). Peaches, Granny Smith apples, the occasional clementine…

🥦 Veggie:

Tomatoes!!!! I know they’re technically a fruit but I’ve got autism food pickiness and people put them in salad so they count. And I fucking love tomatoes I’ll eat a fucker like an apple give it to me

🎲 Game:

Videogame: Pokémon Emerald

Boardgame: Mancala, Backgammon

😇 Blorbo:

I have too many and it’s not like I rank them I don’t play favorites with my children. You can just go back in this blog and you’ll figure it out p easy if you’ve got time, patience, and enough curiosity.

Like you’ll find a good chunk of like 2019-2023 of p consistent Witcher Jaskier content that I’m not currently in bc I’ve been overcome with a new hyperfixation.

If you want the ones I’ve had the longest….

The ones I still post about/interact with/have strong feelings for now that I loved before high school (context- my last year of middle school/first year of high school was 2010) are…

- Shawn Spencer, Psych

- Sherlock Holmes, Sherlock Homes stories- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle (Specifically the Books/Short Stories)

And the main ones from high school/college (2011-2016?) are…

- The Doctor, Doctor Who (the whole character every incarnation that’s my baby right there)

- Roronoa Zoro, One Piece (the original boi, I made this tumblr to find and collect fanart of him in like 2014 or something so all the OGs that still follow me on here from my One Piece days are real ones)

I got into anime as a whole around then, so there are too many anime blorbos; I’m not listing them all, but most are voiced by Kazuya Nakai or Daisuke Ono, or is a girl from Love Live.

Currently I’m fucking obsessed with Hazbin Hotel/Helluva Boss so it’s hard to think of other things and I know like it’s one of the most annoying fandoms someone could suddenly attack your dash with but I can’t help it I’m compelled by these fuckin guys

📚 Book(s):

The Princess Bride: S. Morganstern’s Classic Tale of True Love and High Adventure- William Goldman

The Complete Sherlock Holmes- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle

Amelia Peabody mysteries- Elizabeth Peters

Mary Russell mysteries (specifically the first two: The Beekeepers Apprentice: or, On the Segregation of the Queen; and A Monstrous Regiment of Women)- Laurie R. King

Harry Dresden series- Jim Butcher

Nancy Drew mysteries- Carolyn Keene

Phryne Fisher mysteries- Kerry Greenwood

Good Omens: The Nice and Accurate Prophecies of Agnes Nutter, Witch- Terry Pratchet & Neil Gaiman

Mrs. Murphy mysteries- Rita Mae Brown & Sneaky Pie Brown

I have too many I’m sorry I’ll stop here; I could read before kindergarten, going to the library was my main weekend fun activity to do with mom as a child, my high school senior superlative was “Biggest Reader,” I was reading while walking between classes and everyone apparently noticed even when they didn’t talk to me. I like mysteries~

#caff answers #hope u liked my book list thats more of a series list lol #feel free to ask more about any of this #if you want

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