#and sure i Could just ignore what nuzleaf had said in the prehistoric ruins scene but. i didnt want to. so instead i tried to come up with

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So PSMD has. an odd way of explaining Hero's amnesia?

'Cause at first, in the Prehistoric Ruins scene, Nuzleaf says "The only reason Hero here ain't had no memory all this time... is because that Beheeyem right there went and erased it all", but later when Partner disappears and reveals that they're a Mew reincarnation they say "It was me. I... or Mew...erased your memories. It was what you agreed to... before you came to this world", which seems to contradict what Nuzleaf had said earlier.

Partner even specifically says that "it wasn't the Beheeyem that made you lose all of your memories" before revealing this!

But also I can't understand that to be true if the Beheeyem was clearly super guilty??? And while, sure, you could assume Nuzleaf might've been lying when he told Hero that the Beheeyem did wipe their memory, the fact that the Beheeyem was so guilty about it that he didn't even want to tell Hero in the first place - before he even realized Nuzleaf had even set up a trap for them - and doesn't deny what Nuzleaf says - despite being at a point where he had broken out of Dark Matter's control, had sought out Hero & Partner because of that, and went against Nuzleaf & the others until he was threatened with possibly being sent to the Voidlands - makes it seem very unlikely to me that this was some sort of lie.

Anyways point is! It's weird!!! And I've been trying to think of an idea as to how both might be able to work, and I managed to come up with something!

So, the idea I had is...

What if when Hero first woke up, they didn't have their memories due to Mew - as Partner stated had happened - but they at least remembered how they ended up there (aka: that cutscene at the start of the game that uses the 3DS's camera where the ball of light talks to you/Hero before you do the personality quiz). They may not have remembered all the Ancient Pokemon stuff, or all the Dark Matter details or the plans Mew had made or anything like that, but they knew they were sent there to help.

Then, as Nuzleaf had explained, well.... Nuzleaf and the Beheeyem showed up, and the fight that was mentioned happened (not sure how the fight happened btw - I'm looking at the script right now and it's actually not super clear to me who even started it?), and that one Beheeyem hit Hero with one of his psychic moves, wiping their memory.

Except, Hero already didn't have most of their memories to begin with due to Mew - though the Beheeyem & Nuzleaf likely wouldn't be aware of this - so instead what memories were wiped was just the entire encounter and subsequent fight they had with Nuzleaf and the three Beheeyem, but also had the exact details of how Hero got to the Pokemon World, and what little they knew of why they were brought there to begin with, wiped - explaining why Hero doesn't know that during most of the game, despite the dialogue in that intro cutscene having the ball of light (which I personally assume is Mew's spirit or something) explicitly asking Hero to "lend ... [their] strength" - directly asking Hero to help.

Then, with that having happened, Nuzleaf and the Beheeyem may have just assumed Beheeyem's attack was what wiped all of their memories, as seemingly nobody knew about the Mew thing until Partner reveals it themself.

I dunno, I just thought this up as a possible explanation for how both situations could exist at the same time!

#ive had this idea for a bit now and figured i'd just. post it yknow??? #i do really really really love psmd but also this plot point.... confuses me. just the way the game handles it #and sure i Could just ignore what nuzleaf had said in the prehistoric ruins scene but. i didnt want to. so instead i tried to come up with #how both explanations could work at the same time and!!! this is what i came up with!! #pokemon mystery dungeon #pokemon super mystery dungeon #pmd #psmd #pmd4 #psmd hero #hero psmd #apologies for how Long this post is btw!!! i have. so many psmd thoughts. all the time DSFGHGFD