#and im gonna say this here. im at this point literally 100% positive that we're gonna get that narratively unsatisfying ending. no chance.

[doodlebloo]

LITERALLY. YOURE SO RIGHT. like at the very core of it the reason why this sucks is because "cbeeduo are established to be narratively important to each other and now theyve dropped off the face of the earth and no matter what thats going to be unsatisfying and bad writing" like thats it. not 2 keep discoursing wiht u sorry youre just sooo right. cbeeduoers are right 2 feel upset about this its like, not good for the story, not good for their characters, doesnt make sense and literally can not be satisfying. i truly believe cranboo and ctubbo cant have their stories end in a way that Makes Sense without a reconciliation. and i DO mean Specifically "reconciliation", not just "they talk one more time", or "they hate each other now" but i get we r all desperate here so just talking again would be like water in a desert. but with how their stories and characters work i dont think it makes sense for them to hate each other, i also dont think a divorce arc makes any sense or would benefit their stories/characters? they can have a fight or argument but they wouldnt just. cut each other out of their lives. they care too much, thats deeply established. i just wish they would talk and wed have a Resolution on them. even if its rushed, even if its not the best writing, even if i go out of it thinking hm there should have been more, i want SOMETHING! wailing crying

(Ur fine don't worry)

Yeah I think part of the reason it bothers me so bad is that c!Tubbo just keeps having massive plotholes in his story caused by ooc stuff and I am getting so tired of that. I could elaborate on that but I already have oh so many times before lol.

I mean, practically no character on the DSMP will be able to have an ending that wraps up ALL their character's loose ends, because the nature of the DSMP is that plotlines sometimes get dropped or change mid-''season'', but I think this is a pretty big thing to leave out. And I think what bothers me most about it is that - much like c!Tubbo losing his son, c!Tubbo killing c!Aimsey, c!Tubbo waiting so long to go and see c!Tommy after c!Dream's release, I could go on - this is a plothole that could be Explained. I can think of literally dozens of things they could say to explain why they won't interact again. Would these reasons be satisfying? No of course not. But it's just so tiring that Tubbo overlooks so many plotholes in his character's own story so often when all he'd have to do is mention on Twitter or in stream "yeah I think the reason my character didn't notice Michael was missing is xyz." If that makes sense

#and im gonna say this here. im at this point literally 100% positive that we're gonna get that narratively unsatisfying ending. no chance. #because (NOT /NEG OF THEM) Tubbo seems to kind of want to get his ending out of the way so je can play on Vol 2 #and Ranboo has as far as i know like only one more lore stream left. so i think the chances of them ever interacting in canon again are. #at this point i think zero. sorry if thats doomposting bit it would genuinely take a miracle. and that sucks. #because i know you said you want a reconciliation and of course id love that but i would be SO content with a scene like: #cRanboo knocks on cTubbos door. cTubbo: Hello? Wh- Ranbo!? cRanboo: Hi... We should probably talk. #THERE. ONE LINE FROM EACH OF THEM FADE TO BLACK. I WOULD BE THRILLED WITH THAT. OVER THE MOON. #sorry i know its their story not mine but. #what ever i guess #asks #discourse #<- IM NOT TRYING TO DISCOURSE IM SORRYYYT im just tagging for ppl who dont care. sorry everyone! #long post

[wrongcaitlyn]

hi!! i know you get a lot of music recs but i thought i might just add some of my own too bc i love the dear reader series sm and literally cannot stop connecting songs to it 😭

'favor' by julien baker is maybe a bit depressing but also some of the lyrics just seem so nico, like 'turns out that all my friends were trying to do me a favour' and saying how hard it is to be tender and all (i feel like she has a lot of depressing songs which could be past nico-coded but not so much with his mental health getting better??)

but also more positively 'free treasure' by adrianne lenker which doesn't super feel like nico's style in terms of melody but the lyrics kind of fit to me, with things like 'you show me understanding, patience and pleasure' and 'just when i thought i couldn't feel more, i feel a little more'

also (last one!!) 'it'll all work out' by phoebe bridgers i can kind of see as nico either to bianca or to himself pre-transition - just kind of sad but healing at the same time

thank you for letting me ramble!! i love your work <3

AHHSDF YAY MORE SONG RECS sorry it took so long to get to listening to these but i'm here!!!

i swear julien baker (as well as lucy dacas) are artists that i keep telling myself i need to listen to bc i do love a lot of phoebe bridgers and boygenius songs and yet i never have😭 I WILL THIS SUMMER god i actually need to make a list of discographies to binge it's just hard forcing myself to listen to new musiclksjfd

but anyway onto the songs!!

you are SO real about depressive songs being so nico, and honestly even though his mental health is getting better, the problems don't always go completely away! i think it's very natural for him to still have those depressive songs, because like, he is still struggling with depression and ptsd and definitely still has bad days, and uses music as a way to vent :/

as for favor, these lyrics are SPOT ON but what stood out even more was the production on first listen, like it's such a nico coded song from everything from the lyrics to the production and i just love it?? god i have a playlist of songs that i want to add to albums and this is going straight there, at this point i have so many songs that i don't have the timespan to possibly have nico release all of them but i'll just keep in mind for possible future playlists😭😭 i absolutely love that one!! the lyric you pointed out is literally so real, and also "how long do i have until /i've spent up everyone's goodwill?" is just SO nico coded oh my god😭it's definitely him in high school coded, just thinking every now and then of like why he ended up where he did :/ and "who put me in your way to find? what right had you not to let me die?"LKSDJFDSJF IM SO OBSESSED WITH THIS NOW WTF im gonna keep listening to it all day and stressing over which possible album i could fit it in because i'm like out of room but also aghsldkfjsldf it needs to go somewhere

anyway. NEXT ONE

these lyrics😭😭i wanna cry this is just him finally feeling comfortable and happy and content with his life and with will and AHGSLDFJ THAT MAKES ME SO HAPPY "we're sitting on the kitchen floor / just when i thought i couldn't feel more / i feel a little more" LIKE. THEY'RE JUST. SOULMATES. I LOVE THEM. AND I LOVE THIS.

(just scrolled back up and saw that that was the lyric that you put into the ask and that was a total coincidence but just goes to show your idea was absolutely perfect like spot on)

now onto phoebe!! i've listened to stranger in the alps a few times but i don't think i heard this one before which is odd, but then again i don't listen to phoebe as much as i'd like :/

but holy shit. i wish i heard this earlier. this one is 100% going on an album i just need to figure out which one bc it's literally perfect wtf. "when she needed me i wasn't around" talking abt when bianca died and he wasn't there, and then "now the wind is high and the rain is heavy" the RAINSDLFJ all i can think abt is nico thinking abt bianca when his dad died and the same sorta situation :// "never goes away, but it all works out" is just him finally trying to work through the trauma over the years and him finally coming to a time of like sort of peace? and contentedness in his life??

also idk why but my first thought at the lyric of "better off with him than here with me" was hearing it as "better off with Him" as in like referring to god and heaven, "than here with me" :(( i know that's 100% not the og meaning but that's how i initially interpreted it (bc i was already thinking of biancaksljdf) and probably how i'll continue to see it😭😭

anyway these were SUCH beautiful recs omg thank you so so much <333 i shall now scour through my playlists to try and find spots for them!!! worst comes to worst i'll have to move a few other songs into being unreleased songs, or singles, and maybe make a playlist of unreleased songs, and another for singles, we'll see!

#wrongcaitlyn #talk ur talk asks