#Unironically you should not have a platform if you are THAT stupid or malicious to think it was anything BUT a harassment charter

[bonefall]

Anyway. Bi and Mspec Lesbians aren't a hotly "debated" topic or even new to queer culture, it's just the newest thing that bullies who REALLY want to be homophobic and even racist use to justify harassing gay people they don't like.

It's the thinnest possible veneer of progressive language wrapped around TERF and reactionary rhetoric so that they can feel righteous for forming an angry mob against vulnerable targets. If you're gullible enough to fall for the newest wave of bigotry within the queer community, and turn on your allies because they're "confusing" or "invading your spaces," the SAME way they turned on bi/pan labels, trans people, xenogenders, neopronouns, and aroace people before this, then get lost.

#No patience. Wither and rot. #These motherfuckers dogpiled the legend who leaked the no fly list because it identified as the wrong type of lesbian. #They will attack the people doing DIRECT ACTION over dumbfuck label discourse. Deeply unserious people. #Embarrassing to think that there are rubes out there who keep falling for this #For ALL our sakes I hope this is literally their first rodeos and they really haven't fallen for this bullshit twice. #But unfortunately I'm too old to be that hopeful. #I didn't get to see the big ''public block list'' made for us dirty queers who support or are bi/mspec lesbians but I hope I was on it #If a man is best judged by his enemies then exclusionists who echo terf rhetoric are the ones I WANT to have. #And ''public lesbian block list'' is in quotes because if you REALLY thought that such a thing wasn't a ''GO HARASS THESE PEOPLE'' charter- #--then you have a black mold where your brain used to be and it's rapidly eating into the bathroom tile you call a skull #Unironically you should not have a platform if you are THAT stupid or malicious to think it was anything BUT a harassment charter #I hope they're ashamed. #Context for those unaware: a flesh-eating amoeba created a public blocklist for people who supported bi lesbians #Minors and extremely small creators without big platforms were on that list #People got harassed but the most namely was Lockandkeyhyena who had people raiding his server with racial slurs and death threats. #I hope everyone involved sees who their ''allies'' are when they spread that sentiment. #A bunch of people ACTUALLY 'invading someone's space' to post the n-word and suicidebait. #THAT is who you appeal to. Sit with that.

[colorisbyshe]

Every single time a problematic/harmful/just fucking stupid idea circulates and is revealed that the original poster was just trolling or a psyop, it's important to point that out but we also have to recognize... once OP is given that platform and it is received unironically, people sincerely co-sign it. Every bad take I ahve seen that was malicious or a joke or whatever has had very, very sincere people joining it.

"Teens now are unironically supporting Osama Bin Laden" may have been a psyop at its original point, made to discredit people currently criticizing Israel/America, but there are real, non-trolling people who either are malicious themselves and agree with all of the ugly bits of his letter/legacy OR are so uncritical/ignorant in their readings (or pretend-readings) that they have cosigned his point.

Posturing for whatever is framed as The Most Radical is absolutely a thing that has people mindlessly agreeing to whatever they are told is morally correct. It's also why there has to be constant reminders for people to stop falling for open antisemites who are using Palestine as a way to further their antisemitism. Like... people have to be guided away from open, literal neo nazis because they just are mindlessly going along with whatever "seems" right.

So, yeah, "Bin Laden's letter" DID only "go viral" because someone said it went viral (you can literally look at the google trends and see the exact moment it was declared to be popular and then how it was AFTER that that it became popular) and likely did have bad intent.

But people who are ping-ponging off of any radical point they can find and who are dealing with Anti-American Imperialism rhetoric for the first time and therefore will grab onto whatever they can... are in fact falling for it.

And we need to have tools to... refocus their radicalization away from that. Instead of just pointing and going "FAKE INTERNET PLOT!" we need the space to give people the tools to A. Actually engage with the rhetoric they are spreading and B. Learn better sources.

Yes, people should know better. But... people don't. Even when it's their own fault for not knowing better (and it often is), the way of getting htem to be better isn't just shrugging it off.

Like... people are genuinely saying "I'm glad people are learning to question America via Osama Bin Laden's letter." That is bad.