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This whole vlive is still a mystery, I dont know what happened before this vlive but jaehyun was hooked to doyoung the whole day. Jaehyun seems out of it the whole vlive and it always makes me think that jaehyun got a green light from doyoung this day and jaehyun wasnt hiding his need to be with doyoung it near him
Jaehyun wasn't happy/giddy (compare to Boss 100mln bts, that scene with tapping Do's thighs and talking about Do owing him a BD present (3:57, March 3)), so I really doubt there was "I like you" in any clearly romantic form involved. At the same time, Doyoung tried to not attract other neos' attention to them and signalled Jaehyun "not now, not before the cameras" despite entering Jae's intimate space himself (the way he nested between Jae's legs without regard to distance). And it's not like Jaehyun ever stopped with his advances in 2017.
Jaehyun evidently got his hopes back, however, it was Doyoung who changed his attitude more, he didn't put any barriers anymore, didn't insist on hyung/dongsaeng roles, JaeDo cameback to being bffs and making everyone thirdwheel.
As I didn't come up with any other possible explanation that will fit the observed changes in behaviour of both, I still think Do came out to Jaehyun and, maybe, asked forgiveness for things/words in the past. Jaehyun isn't dense to not see his effect on Doyoung, so knowing for a fact, from the man himself, that Do likes men, would give him "the green light" as you label it. Jaehyun was on his best behaviour in Spring. He was very compliant and didn't show his temper even when there was a reason to be jealous (this Boss bts is a good example of this approach).
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He's so obvious https://twitter.com/kapevibes/status/1490207875536277508?s=21
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It's surprising not all agree on that, heh.
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I will be honest and say that I don’t like DoWoo. Not as as ship, but as a duo on variety shows or YT content. And the reason is that there is always friction, two cogs working at different speed. Like Do babying Woo, Woo tolerating it. Or Woo saying something and Do putting him in place with “I know better”. Do becoming too hyped, Woo calming him down. The two just have different temperature. There is always adjustment to each other. Not in a bad sense, no. But it still stands in the way of onscreen chemisrtry.
JaeDo, on the other hand, is like bread and butter. Look at the famous high touch-low touch moment and the confusion with Johnny. How Do responded to low-touch, how in tune confused the two were with American humour. 4:15-4:42 Also how easily JaeDo collabed with touch-baby, and how Jae responded the last time despite Johnny changinf the flow 10:02-10:32
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I stumbled on this gem and wow, the domestic vibes that this clip is giving me..
And god, the lil laugh JH had when he was watching doyoung was really something else.
(Also, can anyone tell me where that clip is from?😭)
Link - It was pre-dating, imagine them now (but then, why imagine, we have the shopping for cheese in the US). Doyoung chose that restaurant for everyone to come and was very proud.
NCT in Ukraine
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Boss commentary
It’s a pity that M2 MV commentary was discontinued. I really like all NCT’s episodes.
I was fortunate to get to know NCT in April of 2018, Empathy was the start of NCT being really busy and productive. JaeDo got together, Lucas and Jungwoo were added, ten’s solos, promotions in Japan and USA, first 127′s full album, etc.
Looking back, Doyoung was different. It was gradual, so I won’t say when exactly he changed, but even during games he is not as assertive as he was back then. 2018 was the time when Do had enough experience to be comfortable as an idol, but before the worries about slow success of the group, an array of scandals and the difficulties of hiding his relationship. He wasn’t afraid to stand out back then and grab all the attention.
MV Commentary NCT U Boss (unsubbed YT). For some reason I can’t play videos on Dailymotion right now, but here is a link to different subs.
I will write timestamps for the YT video and get the meaning from the Rus subs video.
Things to notice:
- How active and loud is Do as the MC,
- How he looks and addresses mostly Jae and Tae on his left. He turns to Mark and WW on his right only when he needs to say something individually (like praise words),
- Jaehyun often explains his opinion to Do instead of to the camera,
- Despite limited vocablurary, Lucas knows how to entertain and works instead of sitting it out,
- Jae and/or Do as the only MCs for U/127. Do MCed for Touch as well.
3:30 - Jae uses the opportunity to tease Do, when the hyung says his charming point is his wide as the Pacific ocean shoulders.
4:06 - Jae is the first to laugh at Do’s jab at Tae (your charming point is dissapointing).
4:54 - Jae’s “ne” a few times to support Do’s speech.
6:50 - Doyoung looking at Jaehyun for the whole duration of explanation (Jae talks about Ukranian models, who I suspect were actually just random guys from the street who agreed to dye their hair for booze money, they don’t have model looks).
7:12 - Do’s fanboys and teasing squad. Tae says Do is afraid of heights.
9:30 - In one breath Do both teased and assured Tae about his part with the hand and the smile. First Do said Tae does the gesture when he is drunk, later he said Tae looked like a real boss. Also note how Do is not afraid to joke about fans struggling for breath because of Tae’s beauty.
11:26 - When Jae asks to stop at his scene, Do offers to fast-forward. When was the last time Do teased Jae like he teases Tae? Jae backtracks and says it’s ok, he has nothing to comment. When other neos said he paused because he looks handsome, Do echoed their words with a smile.
12:10 - Jae looks so disinterested, but he is the one to later jump in with STOP to help with the exact moment. Jae also says “OK, OK, it’s good”. Supportive boyfriend to be.
13:13 - Do stops at the hyung line to check how they look and says Jae looks angry, a lot of tension in his brows.
13:47 - Do teases Mark, saying that the shooting was postponed for 5 hours because of Mark not able to cut the curtain the first time. Look how Jae jumps to aid Do in teasing. Yes, that was the norm.
14:26 - Jae’s smile at the scene of the members parting to reveal Doyoung.
Tae said that Ten was present during TaeMark’s duo rap scene among the buses.
17:06 - Jae asked to stop to talk about the story behind the shot, how they didn’t know it will be used for the MV and everyone decided to close or open eyes on their own. Do said that those who could withstand the harsh light kept their eyes open, he was one of them. Jae teased how one of Do’s eyes is barely seen, etc. As usual, when it’s about Doyoung-ie-hyung, Jaehyun is hyped.
It wasn’t tomato soup, guys, it was beet soup. Noone eats it from a cabbage, of course, that’s restaurant entertainment.
In the end Doyoung said that with the help of Boss he hoped to become the boss of k-pop. Welp, it happened with Kick It a couple years later.
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This is their true personalities in this picture. Also Jaehyun holding the dog pillow, such a funny coincidence https://twitter.com/jaedoalltime/status/1435815224611782656?s=21
I'll just post the pic.
The programme.
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Ok i know you probably already talked about it but what do you think of Doyoung and Taeyong kissing Jaehyun cheek on his birthday a few years ago? I dit think they were together already and Doyoung didn’t seem awkward at all
They weren't together, and Doyoung was awkward. Tae kissed, Do pretended to.
When I watched that radio segment, I was still in the middle of deciding whether the couple was real or not. Do's awkwardness actually caught my eye because I had got used to May-June touchy feely Doyoung by then (the ongoing development and fresh vlives).
At one hand I had Doyoung bear-hugging and spanking Jaehyun, on another hand I had Doyoung carefully making fireworks/sparks with his fingers around Jae's face without grabbing/squeezeing his arm/shoulder/neck.
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I’ve been looking for this moment for over a year. Finally.
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Do you know what happened in this, i'm sorry i didn't get it through gg trans twitter(.)com/gaspgi415/status/1286549929779843072?t=_qrbcG2dinYxPRmD8ujPAQ&s=19
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Watch the vlive, it's 7min and subbed.
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While shippers here are debating whether the drink support was real or fabricated, shippers on twitter be wildin hahaha /1mm_jaedo/status/1417368054523068418?s=19 cute (:
Link - Jaehyun who gives drink support to Doyoung
I like how Mark turned the fork with the blunt end to Jaehyun. The boy knows his way around Western cutlery, heh.
I think it's got better, but in old Asian dramas actors barely could operate a fork, they held it so awkwardly. The chopsticks problem works both ways.
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jcreamyd/status/1364984529069350919?s=19 one of my favourite moments, jaehyun talking abt ppl who have caught cold should take care, when doyoung wasnt feeling well and look at his red ears
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Me: *scrolls the feed, notices the screenshot*
Me: This is a Doyoung smile, where is Doyoung?
Me: *finally sees the gif*
This incline of the head is very characteristic, Jae often does so when he converses with Do.
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Our favourite cooking vlive keeps giving. This Korean shipper brings attention to Jaehyun closing his legs to sit more comfortably, when Do stands up, but opens them again, when Do sits down. What an accomodating arm-chair, lol. Jae, you could have scooted to the side, there is enough space on the bench near WinWin, you know...
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https://twitter.com/alhahalal/status/1356573107226468356?s=21 do you know the translation to this conversation?
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Doyoung is answering a question about his biases.
127 - Doyoung, Dream - Jeno, U - Jungwoo
Jaehyun tried to tell Do, that he can choose Doyoung for U again, but Do insisted on Woo, saying he can't name himself twice. Seeing sulking Jae, Do said he is his favourite too (I don't remember exactly, was it "second place" or "I like you as well". Jae wasn't called a bias.)
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