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therobotmonster · 2 years

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How big of a threat do you think AI Art is to the employment of concept artists? Given how artists like RJ Palmer and Bogleech are panicked about it, you've worked in fields adjacent to that, and you've worked extensively with AI art, I'd presume you'd have some perspective on that.

AI art is going to shake up the art field, any new art tool worth its salt can and will.

I was training as a graphic designer when InDesign was finally starting to hit its stride in the late 90s, but I learned on QuarkExpress and learned old-school techniques in high school Newspaper club. I'd been dealing with dot-matrix printers and photocopier work since I was 8 at my dad's office.

So I got to see the graphic design industry in a state of panic through my professors and our various industry guests. All the EM-dashes and the declaration that the " on the keyboard is the inches mark and not the quote were protective measures for the industry so that talented amateurs wouldn't know the secret handshakes and couldn't "fake" their way into being seen as real graphic designers. And they were PISSED that Adobe InDesign was easy to use and automatically converted the measure-marks into "proper" punctuation.

Yet there's still a graphic design industry.

That said, I'd be curious if the ones that are actually freaked out have ever actually used the products. Because I"ve been in a down slump and I'm prone to stim, I have done pretty much nothing but dig into Midjourney and Stable Diffusion's brains and my experience doesn't match the observations of the terrified.

I think part of it is because people only see the results and they don't see the work. And there is work involved.

Iteration and Curation: I've posted a couple hundred pics from Midjourney so far. What do you don't see is this:

Now, in Midjourney parlance "image" also includes 4-grid previews used while developing final images.

For each panel of "Glitch"/"The Bethesda Epoch", for instance, I generated at least eight options (usually more) and evolved several of them across many generations to get what I wound up with. The Bethesda Epoch took me days to put together and garners me feedback and response roughly equal to a 3d modeled piece I'd put together in the same time frame.

Truth of the matter is, you rarely get anything perfect first try, everything needs modification or massive amounts of reiteration to pass for final work.

Promptcraft: Spend even a little time on the discords and you can tell who is playing and who is trying to make art. Play is an entirely viable application of this technology (more on that later) but while this levels the technical skill barrier for a lot of people, it does not cover for a lack of vision or ideas, and it requires its own skill.

There's a big difference between "in the style of D&D art" and "as a D&D monster, full body, pen-and-ink illustration, etching, by Russ Nicholson, David A Trampier, larry elmore, 1981, HQ scan, intricate details, inside stylized border" in terms of what you get.

Play: Most people are just having fun. It's real easy for artists to take the ability to express the ideas in our heads for granted. Most of what you're seeing is people playing with ideas they've been unable to express before. A lot of what I do with it is play, too.

Accessibility: My hands cramp when I draw these days, depression and other problems frequently knock my motivation and energy out of me, but I can use AI to put my ideas out there when the other parts of me aren't cooperating.

Limitations: The tech looks miraculous, but it can't do everything. In fact, it can't do a lot of things. The artist is still needed for the vision, for the ideas, to work the outputs into something meaningful, to supplement the outputs with human intention so a copyright can be involved, the list goes on.

Even Rembrandt used a camera obscura.;

#AI artwork #don't know why this needed to be anon TBH #midjourney #ludditism

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real-bjd-recast-community · 2 years

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A 90 dollar minifee recast is way better quality than a 90 dollar legit. Why would I buy secondhand when I could buy a recast brand new. The difference is a paper and some elitist people accepting me. I’d rather enjoy a doll that will yellow slower. And many secondhand dolls are already yellowed. And also I’d prefer a doll that previously didn’t have someone’s icky hands on them tbh

I got a better one for you, there's a 3D printer file for minifees, and I'm not even kidding... (and I bet they're better quality than legits too 😂)

I mean, legit companies are 3D printing everything nowadays anyway.

#bjd #minifee #3d printing #3d file #quality control #mnf #fl bjd #bjd confessions #legitbjd #recast #printed bjd

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ilaiyayaya · 2 months

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Aw fuck I think I'm into dolls now :c

Dude Youtube's weird 1 view recommendations are fucked, like 90% of the time they're hot garbage but like 1% of the time they send me into a fucking deep dive on anime dolls and now I'm way too heavily considering wasting a bunch of money on dolls and supplies to customize said dolls DURING A TIME IN WHICH I NEED TO BE SAVING THE MONEY I HAVE FOR AN APARTMENT + LIKE 50 OTHER THINGS but like they're so cute and hertapilled :3

They're like gunpla, but like less stinky and smelly and dumb and stupid and uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh gay and stupid and dumb and gay did i mention gay gunpla is gay (that's an insult). Holy shit I could like, I could like make, I could make Suletta and Miorine dolls that are like actually good and cool and not dumb and stupid and shit and dumb and stupid and gay (this time it's a compliment, a canon compliment!). Like the gunpla versions of them are bad and I don't like them but I really want a real life Suletta and Miorine and I could make custom doll versions of them and they'd be so cool and it'd only cost like $1000000000!!!!!!!

I love how sometimes certain hobbies lead me into new, seemingly completely unrelated hobbies, like this happens all the time, the origin point for this interest is literally fucking honkai star rail I'M SORRY I LIKE THE (previously) OBJECTIVELY LOWEST RANKING CHARACTER IN THE GAME OKAY FUCK YOU it's herta it's herta i like herta i think she's cute i like her knees and i like how she's a fucking piece of shit and it's really funny and cute :3. Really the true origin point is like, idk probably something Index related this is far from the first time I've been interested in dolls but like, this is the first time where I actually have money and so before I could just ignore my fascination and watch from afar BUT NOW I HAVE TO ACTUALLY WORRY ABOUT THE TEMPTATION oooooh you want to spend money ooooooooh you want to spend money so bad ooooh NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Time to learn how to sew clothes, and do makeup, and buy a resin 3d printer, and all just for making custom dolls and I will never ever use those skills for anything else ever I promise I will not use my future sewing and makeup skills gained from dollmaking for anything else at all certainly not anything transition or cosplay related why does Gabumon have like, an actual normal human thumb in the crucifixion picture???

Like wtf??? I've never noticed that, why the fuck did they give him a normal human opposable thumb?????? Like I know his evolution gets jeans but like, that's normal, I'm used to that, this I am not used to, this is fucking weird, I hope he goes to hell for having a thumb.

#I CAN'T IT'S TOO EXPENSIVE OF A HOBBY NOOOOO I CAN RESIST I CAN RESIST THE TEMPTATION OF THE DEVIL!!!#*ring ring ring ring* hello devil? yea i was wondering if you could spot me like $300? no it's for something epic this time i promise #time to add dolls to the diagram of things that sonic indirectly led me into #(it's a really big diagram; like a really big diagram; here let me show you it *pulls out giant sheet of graph paper with a picture of acce #i should actually make a diagram of things sonic got me into that sounds fun i should do that i think i'm gonna go do that now #dollcore #dollbore #dolldore #dollfore #dollgore #dollhore #dolljore #dollkore #dolllore #dollmore #dollnore #dollpore #dollqore #dollrore #dollsore #dolltore #dollvore #dollwore #dollxore #dollyore #dollzore #why is the tag limit so high that I can actually do this???#ngl dollgore and dollvore sound kinda bad DO NOT look those up. unless you want to; i won't judge #i promise i'm not normally high when i write these i don't know how they keep turning out like this this is just my natural writing style #I hope my 1 new follower reads this and gets really weirded out I think that'd be funny; yea that's right i'm calling you out personally <3

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dodounchained · 6 months

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I have a genuine question: wouldn't it be better to practice creating your own art, rather than using these image generators? to each their own, but considering how many people struggle creating their own art because of depression following this "ai" boom, I know I personally would not want to contribute to something that makes other people feel bad about creating things by hand.

Hey, thanks for the questions and the chance to dive into these overdue thoughts from a personal angle, because you phrased them so well :)

The straightforward reason I don't practice drawing and create things with my own hands is that I simply don't have enough time to learn a new skill while working a 9-to-5 job while taking care of the family. Fandom is my escape, and there's only so much I can dedicate to it. Learning to paint demands significant effort, time, and talent, and unfortunately, I don't possess those gifts at the moment.

Let me be clear: "AI-generated imagery" can't replace traditionally painted arts, whether on canvas or through digital tools like Wacom or Procreate. They're not even in the same ballpark. Fun fact, I wanted to be a painter as a kid because my mom was one, but she shunned it because it didn't work out well for her. In the game industry I'm in now, Art directors and artists are still highly sought after and are crucial to any successful project. At the moment, AI generation can't precisely interpret what we envision or tell a client that, no, black is too dark for a 70 pt bold logo in a children's game with predominantly pastel colors. It can't even add weight to a line or create a simple walking animation. Returning to the point, we live in a time where both Photoshop skills and traditional oil painting are appreciated, where calligraphy and typewriting are both practiced, and where sculpture and 3D printer skills are both taught in schools. I hope for a future where AI imagery and the drawing community are not at odds but appreciated in their own ways.

For aspiring artists struggling, I can't comment directly as I'm navigating the same path. But I know the struggle is real, justified, and will pay off in the end. If you ask me to feel bad for them, it's like asking a working person if they feel guilty towards Uber drivers. The analogy falls apart because AI and creative artists aren't competing for the same limited real-life resources right now. If someone felt guilty for being able to do something others can't, they'd be living with guilt every moment.

If I sound a bit defensive, I hope for your understanding. I have imposter syndromes (deserved or not), being a woman in tech and an AI image generator (let's not stretch for the word AI artist). This blog goes on hiatus when I'm so depressed that I can't even open the page. I'm enraptured in the R&D process, but there's no one I can talk to about it. It's a different struggle, but I have terabytes of failed models, wasted hours, and spreadsheets documenting what might have gone wrong before the model reaches its best likeness. What's worse, there's little community for us. AI imagery gets a bad rep because there are mountains of perverts doing unspeakable things I witness every day on forums and servers while looking for the newest style or training method. I'm scared to tell people this is what I (can) do. Perhaps in the '90s, people denied going on the internet because it automatically equated them with being a porn-watcher. That'd be funny.

If there's anything to feel bad about, it's the copyright issue in the AI community. I try my best to use models trained over "ethically" obtained images, but one can never be sure. None of my work has ever been used commercially either.

This response has probably gone on a tangent for too long, and I'd like to appreciate your attention if you've reached this far. Fandom is my escapism, and I have so many headcanons that would otherwise be fleeting posts that vanish in a second. Now, I'm gifted with this new tool to indulge in them, and I feel truly lucky.

#discussion #text post

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