#Because their roles were ambiguous or pro-English and like yes maybe the word 'celebrated' is wrong but they need to be recognised

[the-busy-ghost]

Re: my perennial complaints about women of the wars of independence not getting enough credit- this ABSOLUTELY applies to English women, or women who weren’t of the Bruce camp (often wrongly equated with the patriotic camp). Like I have very strong feelings about Isabella de Beaumont and several Comyn women in particular, but it goes much further than that, and it’s not necessarily a feminist thing either, it’s literally that women made up half the population, and constituted a sizeable portion of many families so like, are we really going to pretend that men were the only ones who cared about the fortunes of their family or nation.

#I should like to point out Isabella de Beaumont; Agnes Comyn; possibly her sister Marjorie and her nieces Alice and Margaret #Definitely Euphemia Countess of Ross though we barely know anything about her- I just provide her as an example of female leadership of kin #Maybe also Margaret Countess of Lennox and Joanna de Clare #For the second war of independence there's Katherine de Beaumont and maybe Mary de Monthermer though I need to look into that more #And like not just the fourteenth century- this could equally be applied to women of the sixteenth who won't be 'celebrated' by Scots as much #Because their roles were ambiguous or pro-English and like yes maybe the word 'celebrated' is wrong but they need to be recognised #Whether that's Isobel Hoppringle or Isabel Hopper (yes very similar names I know but there is a point here) #But I'm getting off topic #Long story short I was thinking about how a history of the Comyns stopped in 1308- i.e. when the last male head died #But tbh I personally think that there's something to be said for Comyn allegiances and claims being carried on by female kin #And passed onto their sons and daughters- and sometimes acted on by these Comyn women themselves as in the case of Agnes #And it just struck me as the kind of strange way we view the rise and fall of a family being bound up with father to son claims #And like I do that too and I do recognise its efficiency- but a few little notes here and there about female kinship would be appropriate #I mean it IS a feminist thing but it's also like common sense you know?