#BB!Snaptooth

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do you have any plans for snaptooth or flywhisker, ever since I saw that fake map I've fallen in love w flywhisker lmao

You know, for the longest time I've been planning to have Snaptooth and Flywhisker be adopted kits of Toadstep and Lionblaze, but I'm writing an SE rework for Nightcloud right now and I have a temptation.

I found a good moment to send off Snapstorm, the best friend of Brushblaze, as a complication of a boar hunt gone wrong. It's right around the time that Brushblaze's kits are being born, and something feels odd about the fact he didn't name any of his kits after someone who was by his side for his entire life. SO I'm thinking about shuffling Snaptooth over to HIS litter.

Which leaves Flywhisker over in ThunderClan.

Lionblaze is the adopted father of Dovewing and Ivypool... and his terrible parenting caused Dovewing to leave ThunderClan, and Ivypool to be permanently traumatized. He breaks up his false mateship with Cinderheart to go be with the cat he really loves, Toadstep, and Flywhisker is adopted after being found abandoned.

Lionblaze's destruction of the ThunderClan family tree has been undone; so now he would only have three children. Ivy, Dove, and Fly. I like it, because Fly is growing up with all the expectations of being Firekin, but also holding the knowledge that her loving father... wasn't always the best, to her older sisters.

It would be cool if Fly was always a little bit of a rebel, and found a really good friend in WindClan. I could work her into the conflict of TBC better too, being accused of being in a HalfClan relationship when the truth is that Snaptooth is more like a brother to her. Then, of course, have them leave the Clans together.

Brushblaze's litter would be Snaptooth, Smokehaze, and Galerunner... and so, Galerunner would be left alone after his brother leaves permanently with Flywhisker.

But I'm still unsure. It's a big change, because I'd been planning for Fly and Snap to remain siblings in BB. But it does seem to work better, thinking about it...

#Especially since I didn't need BOTH Snap and Fly in that role #Fly can do everything with Twig and have all the complicated feelings all on her own #and something seems very painful about the idea that Lion put his heart and soul into spoiling his youngest daughter #desperate to make up for what he did to dove and ivy #...Only for him to be unable to save her from the Impostor's treatment. #Since he himself is a target for being halfclan #For Fly he did nothing wrong. He tried so hard. He thought he had improved and he did #and it wasn't enough... #And TOADSTEP meanwhile is going to be fucking PISSSSEDDDD #Because Thorn is dead. Spiderleg is taking his roles #And SPIDERLEG is who was causing the troubles that ultimately caused Fly to decide that she was going to leave with Snap #Once again his shitty dad is taking everything from him #Something about this feels like it works Better for Fly to be targeted by the imposter and also the only member of her litter #better bones au #BB!TBC #BB!Flywhisker #BB!Snaptooth

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Lionblaze x Cinderheart

Hollytuft- solid black molly

XoXo Bb Dd aa tt Mcmc spsp ii Wwb CC wsws

Sorrelstripe- solid chocolate molly

XoXo bb1 Dd aa tt Mcmc Spsp ii wbwb+ CC wsws

Fernsong- chocolate golden spotted tabby tom

XoY bb1 Dd Aa tt Mcmc Spsp ii wb+wb++ CC wsws

Spotfur- grey spotted tabby molly

XoXo Bb1 dd Aa tt Mcmc Spsp ii Wwb++ Ccs wsws

Flywhisker- grey striped tabby molly

XoXo Bb dd AA tt Mcmc spsp ii Wwb Ccs wsws

Snaptooth- black golden classic tabby tom

XoY Bb1 Dd Aa tt mcmc spsp ii wbwb+ CC wsws

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The second litter Cinderheart has in BB is where Lionblaze is an honor sire, right?

I've been looking for a chance to bring this up, because I just did a big change by saving Toadstep. I was planning for him to die in the Great Battle, but I need more uncomplicated MLM couples and it actually works a LOT better for him to survive. I have a story to tell about his dad Spiderleg and how close he came to killing his son.

The OLD draft was that Lionblaze was the honor sire of Fallenleaf and Cinderheart's kits. There then popped up an idea, as someone suggested that Hollylark actually be related in some way to Fallenleaf's godhood.

I think that's so cool and funny I absolutely want to do something about it. OOPS I did a god sneeze and my wife is magicpregnant. The details of it will follow with time this idea is just so silly and delightful.

But anyway that leaves Snap and Fly. It seems fine to just leave them as mundane kittens in that same litter, but Lion and Toad are OPEN now. They could actually have kits of their own, either by honor siring or just by adopting abandoned ones.

So now I'm not sure and I'm considering options. Feel free to weigh in.

#Better Bones AU #BB!Snaptooth #BB!Flywhisker

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just saw you mention cinderheart—i’m sure you’ve touched on her already but can you talk abt her differences from canon, cinderpelt connections if any, mates, etc? thanks! <3

[ID: Cinderheart from the Better Bones AU. She is a gray tabby with light cream boots and mane, and stripes that end in a big spot. Her eyes are dark blue and she has a gray 'mask.']

my SWEETY PIE. VEEEERY different from canon, her arc is totally gutted and replaced! Instead of having a reincarnation plotline that goes nowhere, Cinderheart has BPD. Since Po3 is now episodic and slice-of-life focused, she gets several episodes exploring her emotions and is always a major supporting character with Hollyleaf.

I have touched on her before over here if you want even more BB!Cinderheart goodness. The plan is for her to go from an apprentice who has destructive impulses to the loyal traveling companion of the young god, Fallenleaf (Hollyleaf with Sol kept trapped inside her).

I REALLY like the idea that her eyes are super dark so I leaned into it.

The mask actually comes from her mom Sorreltail. She looks a lot like her if you compare them.

Reincarnation plotline is gone. Cinderpelt is the aunt who died saving her; it was thought she was Cinderpelt visiting as a fading kit, but then she stayed.

Her siblings are Poppyfrost, Honeyfern, and Molepaw. Molepaw dies of color cough and Poppypaw nearly dies of it too, but Jayfeather fetches her back from StarClan.

Molepaw becomes a StarClan warrior named Molefall and is a sort of guardian-angel type. Jayfeather punches him.

Something that's neglected a lot in BPD portrayals is how it's a mood instability disorder and not JUST a relationship one, so it's something I want to stress and explore.

She has a lot of worries and fears that everything will go wrong, so she often tries to 'pre-empt' rejection by blowing up first.

She raised her sister Poppyfrost's kittens, Ivypool and Dovewing, with Lionblaze. Trying to tell her mutual crush that she was suddenly "having kits with Lionblaze" didn't go over well

Raising Dovewing and Ivypool also didn't go over well. Lionblaze kept shoving them into danger for a reason he was not telling Cinderheart, causing Cinderheart to try her hardest to protect her kids, and... it was not a peaceful home environment.

Later, she has a second litter with Fallenleaf. Snaptooth, Flywhisker, Hollylark.

After Hollylark's horrible and preventable death, plus feeling used like a tool when she's supposed to be a god during The Kin and Sisters ordeals, Fallenleaf decides she must go and hone her powers. Cinder goes with her; she will go wherever she is.

#BB!Cinderheart #Better Bones AU #Better Bones Po3

[bonefall]

Quick question, how do you do the family trees? as in, what program do you use? because that looks like a simple art program. You're so powerful, I'm scared of you even. Also, I've noticed some level of consanguinity but not sure how much, how far apart do these dudes need to be in order for you to consider their reproduction not nasty? What do you personally think of third cousins once removed having children? this fandom makes me write the weirdest of shits...

It's all just Clip Studio and elbow grease. No preset tree-maker tool program can track so many cats and separate lines the way I need it to. I use Family Echo for personal OC projects, but it weeps in the face of so many separate ancestral lines as seen in Clan cats.

It's been a while since I went over my Three Strict Rules so here's a refresher for everyone! If you want to see the big post explaining it all in depth, Go Here

Starting with the most important rule;

RULE 1: THREE GENERATION SEPARATION

No cats are eligible to be mates if they share a simple grandparent. No first cousin pairings, ever.

This rule applies to an extra generation, to the great-grandparent, IF the great-grandparent is still alive, or if there are two or more grandparents alive to remember this fact. This rule is called Onestar's Exception.

It was named after Onestar's SE, where he makes the connection that his sister -> Crowfeather -> Breezepelt, and thinks it's just dandy that his daughter became mates with her First Cousin Once Removed (FCOR). It made me so uncomfortable I made the rule immediately.

This is the chart I use to check;

[ID: A family tree chart]

First Cousin is banned entirely. FCOR and Second Cousins is the Onestar's Exception that invokes an investigation on my end.

So third cousins are allowed. I simply do not have the Clan population density to be choosier. I would need to bloat the Clans with a bunch of unknown side characters, destroy the concept of exploring in-Clan romance, or not think about ancestry in the Cat Ancestry story (the way that canon just conjures up cats outside of ThunderClan).

I'll demonstrate why mathematically; Ancestry is exponential. 2 parents, 4 grandparents, 8 G-grandparents, by the GG-grandparent generation you need 16 ancestors. More than the population of ThunderClan in TPB.

RULE 2: TWO-KIT MAX

I can demonstrate this problem with my ThunderClan Family Tree diagnosis, but I have to ask you to just trust my authority here for this summary.

The biggest problem in the canon ThunderClan family tree is that THREE of Frostfur's children went on to have kits of their own, and then they gave Frosty 7 grandchildren who had kids of their own (soon to be 8 if Shellfur and Fernstripe get busy.)

By adding the simple fix that only 2 from one parent can have reproductive kits of their own, the exponential problem is massively shaved down. It encourages you to choose carefully and go down the line, adding generations vertically instead of building them out horizontally.

The exception to this rule is that kits can get "exported." If they go to another Clan to have children, then they don't count towards their parent's max.

For a BB!Example, Mousewhisker is moving to RiverClan in ASC and Hazeltail was saved from the chopping block, so there's a possible scenario where Berry, Hazel, AND Mouse all have kits. (Kept possible by the fact that Toadstep's kittens with Lionblaze, Snaptooth and Flywhisker, are no longer part of the Clan.)

RULE 3: SINGLE-PARENT LITTERS

After the drowning of Mapleshade's kittens, the Queen's Rights were introduced to the Clans. All parents have the right to keep the other parent of their litters unrevealed.

This is in effect after the start of the Crusade Era, and it is an in-universe law, unlike the Two-Kit Max or even the Three Gen Sep. So, there are times in history (TigerClan, Oakstar's ThunderClan) where I need to be careful about using it.

But, that said, this is my most useful tool here. It allows me to create extra generations without having to work with TWO parents. However, it never matters if the kittens are adopted or surrogated, unless it is an honor-siring situation where the other cat is acknowledged publicly.

I NEVER get free "orphan warriors" past the Crusade Era. EVERYONE needs 1 parent (or joined as an outsider), and I do not track biological genetic makeup in these trees. Frostfur is, secretly, the daughter of Featherwhisker and a kittypet... but that will not be reflected on the tree, because ThunderClan acknowledges her as the daughter of Weedwhisker and Stonepelt.

Make sense?

The trees I'm creating are social. Not genetic. I don't calculate blood quotients.

And that's that! Them's the rules! You can compare the diagnosis to my ThunderClan WIP to see these in action.

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Hollylark

Been quiet because I got started on the TC family tree again and lads, it's time to finalize something

So by now, regulars will probably know that I'm combining Hollytuft and Larksong (AVoS). I was calling the composite character "Hollylark" to make this combination clear.

But now I'm sitting down to lock in the choice forever; have you all gotten used to the name? Or does it still not look right and youse think I should change it.

(NOTE: Please vote for your favorite choice and do not worry for the spoiler effect, if Hollylark is not the winner, I will whittle this poll down to 2 choices and you can vote again)

Before you vote, things to know;

This character is going to be they/xem (though I am tempted to make them any/all). Though Clanmew doesn't have gendered pronouns anyway, Unnamed Composite is Meewa-gendered

They are the child of Fallenleaf and Cinderheart. They were conceived magically and by total accident, because Fallenleaf does not know how to control her powers and sneezed Cinderheart pregnant.

There are no siblings; Snaptooth and Flywhisker were foundlings adopted by Lionblaze and Cinderheart and ergo are their cousins.

Lilyheart will not be having children in BB; Honeyfur and Leafshade are also eliminated for now.

Unnamed Composite is the other parent of Nightheart, Flickerkit, and Finchlight, and the mate of Sparkpelt, just like canon. Xeir kittens look a lot like xem

Xey will, sadly, be dying in a way similar to canon. Prey poisoning during a very tense part of Squirrelflight's Horror (Squilfhope Reduxed)

#Also do you all prefer the spelling Xey/xem or Zey/zem? #I want to practice using the most popular non-gendered singular pronoun #I think I see xem more then zey but I do remember seeing zey around a lot #They is still acceptable though I'm just an old fart and need neo practice anyway