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everyone loves supporting artists until they actually have to support artists
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Also say it with me now: Ryan and Shane are not rich. Before the 2000'z, the average middle class US american would be able to afford a home, two cars, and a 1 or 2 vacations trips. Almost no body in america can reach that nowadays. You're either hitting the bar (barely grazing), trying to hit it but never getting to, or you were born above the bar. Ryan lived with two room mates until a year go where he now lives in an apartment with his wife and dog in LA. He's in his early thirties. Shane Madej is nearing forty and lives in an apartment in LA with his wife, owns one self proclaimed shitty car. These men aren't fucking Jeff Bezos. You're closer to them in income than they are to Taylor Swift. Which in other words, closer than not. We are not being taken advantage of. Capitalism just sucks. Piracy still exists. And you're a bad ass bitch okay? So lets all chill
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big day for media business girlies now that watcher is trying to go the dropout route - some thoughts below the cut
>big L on the fact that they don't have first mover advantage as a lot of their audience already has crossover with other paid subscriptions for independent productions (eg. Dropout, Nebula etc) and they still have a fairly young audience who don't have enough purchase power to subscribe to multiple services past a certain point. my sense is that the average viewer will put watcher on the chopping block - their output unfortunately simply isn't high enough to justify it as a good deal for most folks
>I do understand why they would make this move given how high their production quality is. one only has to assume that their 11k patreon supporters were not enough to meet their P&L. i'm assuming an 80% conversion of patreon subscribers to watcher subscribers will probably happen
>they've had 2 rounds of funding from what I remember, I'm sure there was some push from the investors also to meet their profit line so they could see returns. if they drop a few business focused interviews (hoping for a colin and samir episode, they're one of the best in the YouTube business news space) I'll have a little more to work with in terms of understanding why they did the damn thing
>bigger L on putting their back catalogue behind a 50$ paywall - a bad move both in a business and viewer satisfaction sense
>the value for subscription looks? okay? it's not tooo bad. but if I had to make a choice, i probably wouldn't want to dish out the money for this singular service. superfans probably won't mind but as someone who has become a moderate-to-casual fan, it's just not worth it for me, even to access a few comfort episodes of their back catalogue. it's YouTube, someone will have it backed up on a drive link somewhere.
>i'm hoping for the best for them because more independent creators being able to properly fund the work they'd like to do is ultimately a good thing, but media and entertainment is very much an economies of scale business - you need be certain you have a very high and dedicated viewership to undertake large projects which cost a lot of money. if they don't have enough supporters immediately they'll be unable to launch at the scale at which they want to, which also means it'll take longer and harder for new viewers to pour in. it's not company-ending stuff, but it's a tough journey and i wish them the best
will probably reblog this with more thoughts as more details come out
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Sorry I'm just so fucking sick of people online recognizing that ads and algorithms suck and it's best to find ways you can support creators directly, how every website is sanitizing the internet and fucking over anyone who wants to do anything different is awful and evil, and how if you get money from selling out(often against your will) to corporations said corperation might just randomly decide to nuke you and everything you've ever made off the face of the earth to save on taxes or w/e like what happened to Rooster Teeth and College Humor and The Escapist, but then throwing a fucking fit when the answer to that is "yeah well it costs money to make stuff because we don't live in a post scarcity utopia, so like maybe try, you know, financially supporting the creators you love if you want them to not get driven away by said enshittifcation of the internet or sold to and then deleted by rich corporations to make their shareholders more money".
I'm sorry, you can't have it both ways. Shit costs money, and your favorite creators asking you to support them so they don't have to stop making the stuff they AND we love(or sanitizing it and filling it with ads just to pay the bills, or begging for money from investors who will demand constant growth and retain insane control over what gets made and might decide to just delete everything to save a quick buck) doesn't make them monsters. Being broke sucks but like, christ. There's a difference between YouTube and Netflix price gouging and being greedy capitalists and your favorite indie creators asking for a little money so they can keep making stuff.
(And if you can understand why Dropout and Nebula are paid services and A03 has donation drives, then you can understand why Watcher is going the same route. We're trying to save the shows you love in the forms you love while challenging Google's damn near monopoly on online video sharing and continuing to not give corporations the power to delete massive chunks of media history.)
Just like fuck man, needing money to make things/keep your favorite websites up isn't inherently evil. Asking viewers for support is the GOOD ending for stuff like Watcher. I'd rather pay to watch than watch them sell out to W.B. or die off on YouTube.
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i HAD to log in to give my two cents about watcher tv okay. okay
do i think its a good idea? depends on your definition of a good idea. do i think they couldve gone about announcing it better? oh yeah. do i still think that its sort of the logical next step in terms of the way watcher currently produces content? to everyone's dismay, yes.
the amount of production watcher has repeatedly shown to put into their series has honestly made me wonder how theyre still running at all since they upload freely on youtube and rely mostly on patreon and ad revenue. i was like theres no way im watching this channel without paying for it to some degree. so i subscribed to their patreon.
and i am very lucky to have the extra finances to be able to do that in the first place. this is not a crazy big change for me. if you can financially support a creator (or in this case, a team of creators) for their work that youd typically receive freely, then you should. somebody's gotta fuckin pay them.
but with the economy now, thats not feasible for a lot of people, which sucks!! so i sympathize with that notion a lot, and it sucks to be locked behind the paywall for content that used to be freely available.
i started watching watcher after i got into dropout, and the resemblance in production was familiar to me, so i treated it the same way i treated dropout. patreon to me was my way of treating it LIKE a streaming service. however, watcher does not have as big of a reach as college humour did when they did their switch to streaming. watcher does not have a large cast to draw from to form new shows with. it makes sense that people are hesitant to receive the same content they did before, only now they HAVE to pay.
do i think this streamer will go well? im gonna be straight up and say probably not. and that doesnt make me angry, it just makes me a little worried. the prospect of going cold turkey on youtube for reach seems unwise, and with the way watcher has used social media to market (which is to say, they havent really) is a little anxiety inducing.
i hope it goes well though. genuinely. like, im gonna be there. i would love to see this miraculously work, but theyre going to have to prove early on that there is a quality to the new shows (or old shows (weird wonderful world season 3 fuck yes!!! fuck!!!!) that they didnt have while they were on youtube and thats going to be REALLY difficult given that there's only been one new show promised with the launch.
most streamers are not profitable. thats a fact. but watcher already wasnt profitable (as of last year? two years ago?), but they did launch through the pandemic and lived. somehow. so.
tl;dr im a watchertv defender but like, i gotta be realistic about it. godspeed, watcher. holy shit.
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Tell me when you get bored. A story about doses. [x]
I posted this on twitter and had a variety of aggressive ableism thrown my way.
This is a story about changing what I can in spite of what I cannot for the comfort of my loved ones. The thing that others find to be hurtful about me is that I like to spend time in silent solitude. People who love me often feel hurt that I tend to solve my own problems instead of leaning on them.
When we spend too much time together, people find my neutrality to be concerning, and it becomes too much for people to be unable to read me.
To show the people I love that I enjoy their company in ways they can understand, I pool my energy together to be high-energy, peppy, and social. Since this is not my natural state of being, it takes effort, which can only be expended in small doses. I amplify the things people like in me while filtering out everything they dislike about me when I am in their company.
I change my behaviors for those I love, but at the end of the day, I cannot change my neutral state of being, which is the thing that they want most out of me.
This is a story about me accommodating people in the best way I know how, not the other way around. I would truly appreciate it if people don't misconstrue this anecdote as me asking for dismissal of hurtful behavior when in reality, people find hurt in the fact that I simply exist, and I must change for them.
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The Master, meeting the Doctor again after being trapped in the Toymaker's tooth: Oh, so do you use that "Let's travel the stars together" speech on every guy who tries to kill you? Whore.
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firmly believe that if donna noble had seen one (1) interaction between the master and the doctor doing anything she would have been like “oi, get a room.” and it would do so much psychic damage to the master they would be defeated on the spot
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i feel like the boeing whistleblower case should radicalize more people. a major airline company is producing planes with less and less regard for safety and it's starting to get noticeable. man takes them to court, which would reduce profit at the cost of public safety. he fucking dies the night that boeings legal team asks him to stay an extra day. if nothing happens about this, i hope it gets through to people that america would literally kill you for a few extra cents
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Link’s looks were particularly insane in that Halloween MS special…
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Tinkering! 🥰
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🥰 Rose in Ten's clothes
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Rose and Tentoo 🥰
a step by step process of this will be available at my Patreon on april 1st
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HEAR ME OUT . please .
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Doctor vs Master in terms of who I'd rather have as an enemy is Master all the fucking way. The thing about The Master is their number one priority is not their moral code or revenge or domination or being a villain no their number 1 priority no matter what is being high camp. If the master was after me I would just clap to lower the lights and make "masochism tango" start playing and then during the dance I'd cuff and collar them with some ridiculously strong stuff and at the end they'd be like "mon chéri...it seems you have foiled me for now, but we shall meet again" and then they'd kiss me hand and I probably would have at least a few years before they show up again. Whereas if you're not already in a deeply codependent situation ship and you piss off The Doctor their number one priority is Fucking Getting You. You can fuck off to the year 6 billion in the 13th dimension and they'll still find your ass and be like "I tripled your lifespan and also gave you anterograde amnesia so everyday you will wake up with fewer and fewer loved ones but the grief will be brand new" like jesus christ man i don't wanna deal with that
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