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uh hello friends i wrote a quick thing because it was on my mind ;;; Sorry if anything is out of character, I was just letting my brain write JIODAIJOWDJOI

So, here's...

Unwanted Pardon

“You can’t deem me unforgiven, can you, Es?” Yuno stands outside Es’ door, waiting for a response. 

Es stands there, a little shocked by the late-night visit from the prisoner. She doesn’t wake them up in the middle of the night, usually keeping to herself until morning. 

“Hah–?” Es mumbles. Honestly, they’re tired. It’s late and Kotoko’s interrogation and extraction recently is still on their mind. They were finishing some more notes on the prisoners and were planning to head to sleep after this.

Rubbing the back of their head, Es examines Yuno’s face for any emotion. 

She’s angry. They can recognize the expression from her extraction. 

“You’ve forgiven me twice now. I can tell.” Yuno stares blankly.

“Hm. So?” Es crosses their arms.

“What’s with this?” “Well, it’s my judgment. I can decide to forgive or not forgive no matter what.”

“Then, what does it take for you to stop making baseless assumptions about me?”

Es pauses.

“It’s funny. I would’ve expected you to see something different, something other than a naive girl.”

Es opens their mouth to speak but no words come out.

“Is that all you really see of me? Just some girl who needs saving? Is that why you want to forgive me?” Yuno watches Es’ face. They can feel her trying to see anything. 

“No, that’s not–” 

“Then, why did you?” 

“I deemed your crime forgivable. That is all you need to know, Yuno.” Es shakes their head and turns to shut the door.

“Is it? Because I can guess that no matter what I do, you’ll see just an innocent, pure girl who only wants love and saving.” 

Es huffs before throwing the door open and standing tall right in front of Yuno. “I can deem you unforgiven no matter what, so don’t believe you I can’t.”

The way Yuno immediately shoots back reminds Es of how unintimidating Yuno said they were. “You can’t. You know why? Because I can hear it. I can hear you say that no matter what I do, I am still a good person. That what I’ve done doesn’t change anything. That I’m still innocent. That I should have done it.” 

“Yuno, that’s not–” “If you can deem so many people unforgiven, then why not me? Do I have to commit murder and show no remorse for you to decide I’m guilty?” 

Es huffs. “Shut up. You know nothing about my thoughts behind your judgment.”

“Then, why can’t you figure out my guilt? Can’t you tell that every risk I take is of my own will? I’ve done everything I’ve done because I should. Can’t you see that I’m not as innocent as you believe?”

“I–... Yuno.”

“What? What? Are you going to lecture me or something? Because I don’t need it. All I need for you is to see the truth.” 

Es looks at Yuno. “I am seeing the truth. The truth behind your lies and cold demeanor.” Es turns around. “And, I have deemed you forgiven.”

Yuno stands there.

“It’s best if you go to bed.” Es mumbles. “If you have any other questions about my judgments, lay them onto me during your interrogation.” 

Es shuts the door behind them.

They can hear Yuno pause, laugh, and slowly walk away. 

Es sighs and walks over to the table, flipping through the pages of their notebook. They land on a page.

Kashiki Yuno - Prisoner 002

Easygoing, seems to enjoy MILGRAM and its prisoners. Seems to have a cold personality

Seems to change depending on the person

Cold and alone, seems to have isolated herself

Hates MILGRAM because of its baseless judgments 

(I can not change this fact.)

Compensated Dating

Abortion (Confirmed by Yuno personally)

Has opinions but doesn’t stick to them 

Wants more than baseless judgments

Doesn’t care about the verdict

Doesn’t want to be seen as pure or innocent.

Wants something other than forgiveness 

Es stares at their notes before jotting one last thing down.

Wants the truth behind it.

Must be why she asked me if she was alive.

“The truth behind everything will be revealed soon." Es mutters as they shut the book.

"I promise.”

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Sorry to all the people who look at my writing. Haven't updated this account in a few months... I have loads of Whumptober stuff you can check out on my AO3 though!

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HELLO FRIENDS!!! Please go check out my silly fanfic of a fanfic (Lights, Camera, Sing Your Sins)!! It's called Fell and Found Out, go check it out on AO3!! It's based on a silly doodle of Yuno I sent over to Beans (@good-beans thank you again for letting me do this :D) and then eventually expanded on a while back!! Please enjoy :D

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I HAVE DONE IT!!

my silly karaoke fic has finally finished yippee!!!

please enjoy es and the prisoners getting into silly interactions before and during karaoke!!

You can check Sing Your Sins! out here!!

Here's a quick snippet!

“Yeah! I mean, I’ve spent a lot of time doing karaoke and I’ve sung with my friends and stuff… So, it’d be fun, right?” I… suppose… I don’t know if I could get Jackalope on board with—” “Aww, come on, Es! It’d be fun and we sort of need something to do while we wait. It’s getting a little dull now.” Yuno pouts. “Alright, alright. Let me find Jackalope and we’ll decide on it.” “Thank you so much!” Yuno happily walks away, humming. “Karaoke… Ah, I guess it wouldn’t be too bad…” Es mumbles as they begin their search for the other Warden.

Yippee!! I hope you enjoy :D

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Hello everyone :D!! I wrote a funky little fic based on this funky little snippet I read. I wanna thank @eslover for letting me write something based on their snippet! I really had a lot of fun writing this funky little alternative voice drama (which is still based on Yuno's original T2 voice drama, so there will be some parts that are the same sorry D: ) Here's a quick snippet of it!

"..." "..." Yuno exhales and stares at Es. "I usually don't annoy others, but since this is my interrogation… You look upset, Guard." "Yuno… you… you suffered many injuries." Yuno gives a half-shrug. "Yes. And, Fuuta did as well. After you forgave Kotoko, she became violent and attacked everyone. Well, at least… Just some of the guilty prisoners." "I didn't expect that…" "Oh~?" Yuno hums. "Kotoko seems like the type of person to jump to conclusions and not say anything else." "...Ah… I suppose…" "And, not to sound biased or anything, but I seriously wouldn't want to be friends with her."

Go ahead and check 37.2°C out here! I hope you enjoy it!

#FORGOT TO REBLOG THIS HERE #cup of writing

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IM NOT SAYING THIS ON MAIN BUT me when I kin yuno kashiki just a LITTLE BIT I SWE

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would be down to answer a single question about mugram while I finish thinking about a character's name, send em here and I'll answer one ^^

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I have yet to name this dare guy!! but if his song were titled, it'd be Gamble of Life and Money

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uhh mugram thoughts that I'm pretty sure is the overarching question:

If you had two options and you knew the outcome of the other was murder, would you continue to go down the one you knew?

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I commit angst crimes, more at 9

anyways, go check out some post-game SDRA2 fic surrounding Yoruko I just posted because she is in my brain help me

the fic is called Breath of Fresh Air!! And you can read it here!!

#cup of writing #sdra2 #super danganronpa another 2

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gonna post about mugram here for a bit so I don't flood my main page or Discord channel VHabshdbd

instantly liked the dad guy off his design‼️ he just misses his daughter guys cmon

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WOOO UHH i got down to write one time, so here's a silly little fic i wrote!!

You can check it out here! It's called I Hate and I Love! woo ^^

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The audience has decided!

Cast 2 will be premiering first.

Please wait as we film the episode.

Thank you for your participation, enjoy the show.

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Wow, that was harsh. Didn't expect my return to be so unwelcome, but I suppose considering my last visit.

I was simply asking a question.

Hello. Thanks for stopping by.

#executioner's words

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Hello. Thanks for stopping by.

#executioner's words #acupo'

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Y'know, I was talking to Partner and they were saying it'd be funny if we were producers for a franchise of TV shows.

Personally, I don't see it, but sure, TV show then.

#[FATE] speaks

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THE END JUSTIFIES THE MEANS: A Little Discussion into the Machiavellian Concept and Its Applications to MILGRAM

Hello there!! Welcome to my discussion into MILGRAM and the Machiavellian concept of the end justifying the means. Apologies in advance if stuff doesn't make sense, I feel like this was a very complicated thing to explain??

enjoy the es headers to divide some of my thoughts lol

I was thinking about something and the phrase "The end justifies the means" popped into my head, especially for Haruka.

Like, I feel like the end (getting his mom's attention) certainly justified the means (murder) in his point of view.

But, such an idea is often frowned upon, as "That snappy justification for everything “sinful and wicked” sounds good on paper at first to some realists, but in practice, it is a slippery slope to despotism and immoral horrors. See Hitler, eugenics, and other horrors like that." (Source)

However, the Machiavellian concept has more nuance to it.

"Machiavelli in all cases is implying that “the means” matter, and “the ends” don’t magically justify them, yet sometimes it is worth accepting all the ramifications of “unjustifiable means,” and the damage they do to one’s reputation, for the end goal.

In other words the ends don’t cancel out the means in every respect, but they may none-the-less justify to some extent the original less-than-virtuous actions needed to secure the ends. . . .

DO THE ENDS JUSTIFY THE MEANS? The ends can sometimes justify the means, and the ends are often more important than the means. Sometimes, one must muster up criminal virtue to ensure an end which brings the “greatest happiness,” but one must understand that we are talking about the “greatest happiness” theory here. Thus, people should consider the philosophy of consequentialism and consider the morality of the means as well as the result of the ends, and not just seek their ends by any means without consideration. Machiavelli as a political thinking, virtuous master, and republican would no doubt apply the same sort of reason to the seeking of a perfect happiness theory. Truly, one could argue, that only a tyrant would consider ends to justify means – period…" (Source)*

*The source is from the same link as above.

Now, I'm not calling Haruka a tyrant (he's literally 17 and was neglected as a child, of course he'd do what he could.)

However, Haruka believes in the original idea, that his mother's attention justified killing someone. But, here it states that to some extent, these actions can be justified.

So, Haruka can't entirely justify his actions because of just the end. He begs for his INNOCENT verdict despite what he can and says he will do. There are obvious consequences to these actions and it's not fair to take just the ends into account.

In fact, as I write this, it makes me believe that MILGRAM, underneath all of this, is asking you:

"Does the end justify the means?"

You see this throughout the entire project, either subtly or directly:

Haruka - As aforementioned, does getting his mother's attention justify killing someone?

Yuno - (I'm using the pregnancy entrapment theory here as it's very plausible, but you could use many different theories.) Does getting someone's attention/love justify trapping them in a pregnancy?

Fuuta - (help this one's complicated ^^;;;) Does someone dying justify your mindset of destroying all "evildoers"?

Muu - (See, this one is complicated as well as her murder and why is heavily debated, so I'll go with Muu trying to kill Rei because she wasn't forgiven and also because she wanted the suffering to end. Please let me know if there is a much more nuanced idea.) Does the ending suffering justify killing someone?

Shidou - Does saving a singular person justify all the other people they've killed to save them?

Mahiru - (See, once again, complicated, since we have no idea what her murder is, but I'll try a guess. Once again, please let me know if there is a much more nuanced idea!) Does someone dying justify overwhelming love?

Kazui - Does someone dying justify lying, but telling the truth in the end?

Amane - Does someone dying justify your faith?

Mikoto - Does protecting someone (or in this case, an alter) justify killing someone?

Kotoko - Does serving justice justify possibly killing someone?

Quick Side Topic: In voting in MILGRAM, I like to take into a few factors: personality (it is not affected as much, but depending on the situation, it does help), actions, and the crime itself.

I'm not saying anyone who voted certain prisoners the opposite way is wrong to vote that way, but I like to think of these factors to fairly judge, as if I was part of a jury in a trial.

For example, since her voting period ended last month, Muu. I voted her guilty because of her disregard for Haruka's threat and guilty prisoners' wellbeing, saying they deserved it, no? (In my eyes, no one deserves such a fate unless they have done something EXTREMELY, EXTREMELY wrong. I'm not justifying murder, but I'm saying the actions done to them were wrong.) Her personality didn't really swing my vote any way. Her murder, however, did. In my eyes, it seemed like she was trying to get retribution for her bullying (I have this whole theory that one of Rei's friends were being bullied, killed herself, and Rei called her out on this.)

Back on track...

Once again, there is so much more nuance to each of these characters than DOES THE END JUSTIFY THE MEANS? Haruka is certainly more than wanting his mother's attention; Yuno more than trying to get pregnant from someone; Fuuta more than his mindset; Muu more than her suffering; Shidou more than his dead patients; Mahiru more than her boyfriend; Kazui more than his lies; Amane more than her faith; Mikoto more than his DID (Can't recall if this is the right term.); and Kotoko more than serving justice.

But, that's what some of their ideals and murder itself boils down to, can you justify murder? Can you look at why they did it (motive/goal), what happened (murder/means), and your own morality and decide if you can forgive someone?

Can you look into yourself and truly find that there is a justification for murder?

In the words of Es in former English subs for UNDERCOVER, "You get to know them and tie them with their EGO? Can you really judge them? Is it really okay to be done with deciding with just your EGO? Will you be able to forgive them after listening to their sins?"

Can you look past the less-than-virtuous means to justify the end?

In the words of the new English subs, "Shouldn't you look beyond your EGO, before it all ends?"

Can the ends justify murder?

AUTHOR'S NOTES:

If you've made it this far, thank you for reading my little discussion into this topic. Once again, I apologize for any confusing parts in this. I myself am still trying to grasp the concept, but my thoughts are now in writing.

I'm not well versed into some of these characters, so I am willing to edit this to fix any mistakes I've made in their little analysis of them! Thank you for your help if you do!

I think the first thought of this concept and how it was comparable to Haruka and it started snowballing.

When I realized I had my thoughts down in a whole essay/discussion, I realized it would probably be best to divide this up into easier to read chunks??

MILGRAM is an amazing music video project and considering the release of I Love You is soon, I'm excited to see what is in store. If I recall correctly, they said this was an intense trial, so oh dear! ^^;;

Here's to more amazing songs to analyze!

#first time posting my theory on this account because it qualifies for writing lol #cup of writing