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Odin, to Black Panther: the gall! after all the crimes he's committed??? absolutely shameless. he torments me.

Odin, to Jane Foster: the gall is my favorite part, honestly. bastards, the pair of them. delightful.

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I still think about that moment in the comics where Odin hired Black Panther to kill Loki. But then how Odin gets very upset if anything happens to Loki. If BP had done it, what do you think Odin would have done?

I think about this so much.

Like, here's the context: The War of the Realms is imminent and Odin is finally realizing that he picked the wrongest possible way to deal with it. Freyja called it, and Loki sided with her when she rebelled against Odin over it, and then he (apparently) defected to the enemy, then he (apparently) tried to kill Freyja and nearly succeeded. Odin is going through some shit and once again, much of it is Loki's fault. So it's not that shocking that he'd want something done about Loki, and let's be real: for Asgardians, killing them is just making them go somewhere. To a god, death is a prison sentence, and Loki is the gods' best escape artist.

And while Odin absolutely (even by his own admission), has his moments... he's not stupid.

In that comic, Odin goes to Black Panther and starts off by saying, "Let me tell you a story."

In this story, Odin says, "A long time ago, I, a young god, and your ancestor, the first Black Panther, fought a terrible creature together with some other heroes. When we had defeated it, the Black Panther called for mercy -- something was clearly wrong with this creature, and he wanted to help it. I disagreed: I thought we should kill it and nail its corpse to the moon as a warning to the rest of its kind."

And then Odin says, "I was wrong. The Black Panther was wiser than I was."

He uses this story to illustrate why he respects the Black Panther -- a fellow king, a powerful warrior, and a man of great wisdom. And then Odin says, "That creature we fought: its friends are coming to Earth to get revenge for what we did, and Loki is helping them.* I want you to kill him for the greater good."

*(Loki, for his part, is doing all of this because Malekith intends to use Earth as the battleground for the War of the Realms and the Avengers aren't Avengering hard enough. They need a bad guy to fight so they'll have an excuse to get the band back together.)

Odin says he can't do it because he's weak, he loves his son too much to kill him himself, even knowing the destruction he's about to cause. And it seems like it doesn't quite fit together, does it? Odin didn't go to one of the other heroes he fought alongside in that fight. He didn't ask the Ghost Rider, arbiter of cosmic justice. He didn't ask Earth's Sorcerer Supreme, who's recently had to deal with Loki's bullshit and is eager to kick his ass. He didn't ask the Phoenix, favorite of his old companions. He asked the Black Panther -- the only one to disagree with him. The one who wisely called for mercy and understanding.

And then I remember Young Avengers.

And I remember when the whole thing first starts, and Billy's in trouble and America swoops in to rescue him -- not from the terrible mage-eating monster he's just accidentally summoned, but from Loki. And when they finally get a moment to sit down to talk about it, she tells Billy:

"Don't trust Loki. He knew something was going to happen and he told me that to prevent it, I should kill you."

And Loki says, "Sometimes the only way to be the good guy is to play the bad guy everyone expects you to be. What would you have done if I'd told you Billy was in trouble?"

"Nothing," she admits.

A year after this conversation with Odin, T'Challa walks into Avengers tower with a file on everything Loki's been up to recently and says to the Avengers, "What have all of you heard about the War of the Realms?"

#ooc obvs #character analysis #listen they are both bastards and they are so so alike #both of them are just over here playing 5d chess with the realms as their game board #odin does definitely get some bad writing and he's often the obligatory bad parent for thor and loki childhood angst plotlines #which is fine!!! he's a narrative tool!!! they're stories!!! #but he's a way more complex and interesting character than he gets credit for in fandom i think

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Ah, yes! Similar to the mortal technology that the Man of Iron uses to fling himself about.

...Maybe Sleipnir would like some armor.

Wait, you know who I miss? Odin :)

He's fun!

#personally I think I prefer a spell

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Interesting.

Tell me of these packs of jet.

Wait, you know who I miss? Odin :)

He's fun!

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Pah! Mortal physics matter not when it comes to beings of myth.

'Tis the magical fire that blazes from his powerful hooves that make him so fast. And able to fly.

Other horses, with no more than four hooves' worth of mystic fire could never compare.

Wait, you know who I miss? Odin :)

He's fun!

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Very well. What would you like to know?

Wait, you know who I miss? Odin :)

He's fun!

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Ah. Hello, Loki.

Wait, you know who I miss? Odin :)

He's fun!

#(I am having some!!! issues!!!! with my notifications! ty for your patience!!!)

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how do you feel about your kids saying I swear to dad

At least they're swearing to me and not at me.

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...................who has put these ridiculous eyes on all of my eyepatches.

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What are you going to tell them I banished you for? >:/

Im just going to tell people I was king because Odin was banished to the hell dimension for disrespecting gamers

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*opens a portal and limps back to Asgard, leaning heavily on @valkyriesuggests*

#// hope that works!

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@huginandmugin-suggestions

#// lmao

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*flying overhead*

SQUAWK!

*corvid laughter*

Huginandmugin-suggestions

*lies in the dark depths of what's left of the prison dimension, gravely injured; slowly raises his hand to flip them the bird*

#// I just saw this lmao love u

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*lies in the dark depths of what's left of the prison dimension, gravely injured*

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The brothers trade blows as the valkyries face off against an army of horrors conjured by Cul. The surrounding terrain begins to fall apart, stone cracking and crumbling all around them.

The portals to Asgard start to fail. Someone -- it's hard to say who, amidst this chaos -- calls for a retreat. The valkyries fight to keep the way clear as the monsters try to follow them.

Cul and Odin continue to fight: sword against spear, darkness against light. They both gather power, and for a brief moment the way is clear for all to see them both strike their decisive final blows as one. The brothers fall into darkness as the portals collapse, cutting the prison dimension off once again from the rest of the realms...

CHARGE!

Have at thee, Cul!

#// aaaaand the rest I leave to you guys lemme know if you need me to do anything else I just don't want to delay any longer ;o;

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*stabs Gungnir into his shoulder while he's distracted* My wife doesn't need my help against the likes of you -- that's why I married her.

CHARGE!

Have at thee, Cul!

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*counterattacks with magic of his own* You know the answer to that, Cul.

CHARGE!

Have at thee, Cul!

#// I have tried to make this post twice now Tumblr PLEASE