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nw-wt-xndr · 4 years

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Your data is outdated. According to boxofficemojo, Forbes, any current google search for Frozen 2 box office, the tally for Frozen 2's global box office earnings stand between $1.446B to $1.449B. Even adjusted for inflation, Frozen 2 earned beyond Frozen 1.

Frozen Hubris

@breckstonevailskier wrote:

“It is interesting that the Frozen II writing staff seemed to have had so much trouble justifying why Elsa needed to abdicate that they eventually decided to keep the reasons horribly vague.

They were so deadset on having Anna become queen that it did not occur to them that, maybe the fact that they had so much trouble justifying the ending they wanted, meant that they needed to change that ending.”

This, my friend, is the very definition of hubris.

So insistent were they that ‘Queen Anna’ had to be, they couldn’t see how it was warping the entire creation.

It’s a shame, but sadly not uncommon in sequels. Having won 80+ awards with F1, they evidently came to believe they were infallible.

By virtually any measure of success, F2 was a failure.

The film, after an absolutely huge marketing splash in November was here and gone, without a single award to speak of. There’s no ‘Let it Go’ song ringing across the land and driving parents crazy. Merch sales, by every available measure, appear to be terribly disappointing with shelves full of marked down toys, clothes, dolls, art sets and books gathering dust at discount houses.

But Disney claims it’s the highest-grossing animated film of all time, right?

Actually, no.

The sequel has generated $1.325 billion at the global box office, while Frozen 1 netted $1.281 billion. However these numbers are deceiving.

Inflation has run about 10% since 2013 when F1 came out. So to truly compare apples to apples, we have to multiply $1.281B by 110% to determine how much F1 made in today’s (devalued) dollars.

$1.281B x 110% = $1.409B

So Frozen 1 compared to Frozen 2 in 2019 dollars is actually still a larger grossing film, by $84 million dollars.

Disingenuous of Disney to make this claim, IMO, since their accounting department surely knows the truth but I suppose they have to try to save face.

As time goes by, my guess is that folks will remember Frozen fondly for Elsa’s ice dress, for ‘Let it Go’ and for the story being about True Love between sisters, without the need for a man to save them.

Frozen 2 will be forgotten. Quickly cast into the bargain basket with such classics as Lilo and Stitch 2: Stitch has a Glitch and Pooh’s Heffalump Halloween Movie.

Okay, that was unfair. Pooh’s movie is cute.

-Ullr

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nw-wt-xndr · 4 years

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No, Elsa is not the Avatar, LOL. I wouldn't even equate the two universes since they are clearly different worlds. The 4 spirits in Frozen are living entities that embody the physical states of nature: wind, air, earth, fire. In Avatar, they remain states of nature that a bender can manipulate. The 4 spirits cannot be manipulated by humans in Frozen. Not to mention in Avatar, the spirits come in a variety of forms that are not related at all to the elements humans bend.

As for Elsa, she is the 5th Spirit, and we still don't really know much about the 5th Spirit as an entity yet, other than what Honeymaren told Elsa: at the center of the 4 spirits lie the 5th spirit that is meant to be a bridge that connects us (humans) with the spirits of nature. This is really all we have to go on. Anything else that someone comes up with is merely theory at this point. We do not have clarification or information on how the 5th Spirit connects between the 4 other spirits and then humans.

The only thing(s) we are shown in terms of how the 5th Spirit works is what Anna and Elsa together did to save the forest and Arendelle. Then there is the matter of Ahtohallan herself, a river of memory, that seems to have gifted Elsa with her ice powers, because Ahtohallan herself is glacier, rivers of ice. The fact that Elsa herself has ice powers is probably simply because she received her powers from Ahtohallan. If Ahtohallan took on any other form, then I would assume Elsa would have those powers instead.

Thoughts on Frozen 2

Good movie in general. Loved the music, the animation was stunning, but I have some problems with this whole elements business. The movie says early on that there are four elements. Great. Pretty standard stuff. But then the movie says that there are actually five elements, and that ICE is the one that brings them all together. WHAT??! Avatar: The Last Airbender established 15 years ago that ice is a part of water, and that there are four elements. Only four, and you can’t have more than one unless you’re the Avatar. SO PRAY TELL, FROZEN?? HOW CAN ICE BE THE UNIFYING FIFTH ELEMENT??? IS ELSA THE AVATAR??? Answer my questions, Disney, or prepare to feel the wrath of these hands.

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nw-wt-xndr · 7 years

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