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nestaislife · 10 months
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to be honest, i really don’t know why there’s any debate about the inner circle always prioritizing rhys before feyre. it’s literally right there in the text. it’s explicitly stated that rhysand told them to withhold the fact that feyre is his mate from feyre, and they listened. he told them how to “handle” nesta in acosf and they followed him rather than consult with feyre, who’s actually related to nesta. he told them not to tell feyre her own pregnancy could kill her and. they. listened. when feyre goes on that mission in acomaf to find the cauldron, cassian and azriel swear they’ll protect her with their lives to rhysand. when mor gets mad at feyre for disappearing during the hybern war in acowar, she literally says it’s because she didn’t want to upset rhysand. they’re all completely aware feyre is involved with tamlin post-utm and she makes it very obvious that she doesn’t want to be there in the night court with them during the weeks she bargained with rhysand, but they still say nothing about the wrongness of it (and i get that the mating bond is sacred and everything but there were better ways of going about that situation? see also: feyre hated rhys’s guts? lmao?).
they never act or speak out against rhys. it is in the text. and the thing is that i can understand why—they’re family, they’ve known each other for centuries, of course they’d be more loyal to rhysand—but to say they love and respect feyre as much as they do rhys is absolutely wrong. you can say they’re friends, sure, i won’t fight with you on that, but at the end of the day they’ll always have rhysand’s back before they have feyre’s.
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nestaislife · 1 year
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Oh the amount of plot holes in this book…
Rhysand: “I think we can all agree that Jurian, a former slave, torturing and killing Clythia, a fae fighting on the side to keep enslaving his people, during the war to free his people from slavery was sooo fucked up and evil. He literally went mad!
Anyway, Azriel, go torture these people for information that I, person who can literally read minds, need.”
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nestaislife · 1 year
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Also, defending Rhysan by saying he was protecting her but then judging Tamlin when he was also just trying to protect her - and rightfully so after the attor scene - is just hypocrisy. You can’t judge one character’s morals but not the other’s, that’s unfair sjm
every rhys defense post that addresses his actions towards feyre utm utterly disgusts me because they always, always diminish feyre’s trauma for the sake of uplifting rhys’.
when you’re posting that “context matters!” to defend what rhys did to feyre, you’re actively declaring that it doesn’t matter how feyre felt in those scenes, it doesn’t matter that she was violated and sickened and didn’t even want to think about what was being done to her body because of how deeply traumatic rhys’ actions were—because rhys had some kind of comprehensive reasoning for drugging, groping, kissing, and humiliating feyre in front of everyone utm, for dressing her demeaningly and painting her body to ensure they all knew only rhys could touch her, that makes his abuse understandable and reasonable. because his sexual exploitation of her “saves” feyre from further harm, the harm she did suffer at rhys’ hands is nullified. the ends justify the means and all that. “but he was a victim too!” yes, he was, but does that mean rhys can’t abuse others just because he was abused? ofc not???
if you’re one of the people that holds these kinds of ideologies, you sicken me fr. how can you stand there and say you like feyre when you would invalidate her trauma, which she described to us in depth, which we had an uncomfortable front row seat to for multiple chapters, just to excuse all of rhys’ horrendous behavior? how can you say that you support her when you would defend her abuser over what she told us—that he humiliated her, hurt her, and made her a victim?
feyre will live as a victim of rhys’ abuse for the rest of her life. she will live with that trauma for the rest of her life. it doesn’t fucking matter that he felt he was protecting her, he still abused her. her pain is not nothing. it cannot be brushed off for the sake of redeeming rhys. if the only way you can defend him is by dismissing feyre’s feelings and experiences entirely (because let’s be so real right now, that is the only way), then you should not call yourself a supporter of feyre. you’re not. you’re just like sjm and all the other characters who think that feyre’s wellbeing should always come second to rhys’ whims.
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nestaislife · 1 year
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Tarquin’s face didn’t so much as shift from that cold wrath. “When you went into the Spring Court and deceived Tamlin as well about your true nature, when you destroyed his territory … You left the door open for Hybern. They docked in his harbors.” No doubt to wait for the wall to collapse and then sail south. Tarquin snarled, “It was an easy trip to my doorstep. You did this.” 
I could have sworn I felt Rhys flinch through the bond. But my mate said calmly, “We did nothing. Hybern chooses its actions, not us.” He jerked his chin toward Tarquin. “My force shall remain camped in the hills until you’ve deemed the city secure. Then we will go.”
do y’all remember this scene??? i was rereading it, and i just-
the actual audacity it takes to say hybern’s responsible for his own actions as if feyre didn’t literally DESTROY THE SPRING COURT. if she hadn’t done that, hybern’s forced NEVER would’ve made it inside the summer court. like, of course hybern is responsible for his actions, but like- so are they???? and they just??? won’t take accountability???
it’s so fucking annoying istg.
and don’t even get me STARTED on the part in purple 🗿
Tarquin only said, “Get out. And take your army with you. We can hold the bay now that they don’t have surprise on their side.”
there’s this part…
The Illyrian camp remained in the hills above Adriata.
AND THEN THIS. THIS RIGHT HERE.
why?? WHY???
and then there was that line before this one- 🗿
“She is High Lady of the Night Court. She may do as she wishes.”
THEY’RE. IN. THE. SUMMER. COURT.
imagine the absolute nerve it takes to be the reason the summer court was invaded and then be all calm and collected like you’re dealing with a stubborn toddler when talking to the high lord of the court that’s been ruined because of you, and then LEAVING YOUR ARMIES THERE AGAINST THE EXPLICIT ORDERS OF THEIR RULERS. the AUDACITY. the NERVE.
howwwww are these people the good guys??? how on this cursed planet is HE the one we’re supposed to root for????
it’s genuinely SO gross. like- the utter lack of respect for the summer court’s sovereignty??? it ain’t it. 🤢
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nestaislife · 1 year
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I can’t believe Feyre was shocked in acowar that Tamlin and Lucien would so easily believe Rhysand would SA her…when… he literally did, multiple times utm and they both saw it?? Get your head out of your butt Feyre, Rhysand made you shove it too far up
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nestaislife · 1 year
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I don’t think their love was forced because of the curse I think their love was despite the curse. Remember when Lucien was pestering Tamlin to tell her about it but Tamlin didn’t want to take advantage of her (likely believing she’d feel forced to loving him so she can break the curse) so he didn’t? And then, even though the curse wasn’t broken and he knew he would be taken over by Amarantha, he sent her back home because he would’ve rather her be safe than the curse be broken.
That is a good point, I did mention that you could tell their love was real for each other based on how they acted, ie Tamlin sending her home to protect her and Feyre going under the mountain.
I’m not sure if you mean the scene where Lucien tells Tamlin to get off his butt so they can break the curse, but I don’t think that was about telling her - they couldn’t as per the rules of curse - however it did still prove he would rather let the curse win than deceive her. Although from the way he says it I’m not sure if that was because of Feyre as a person or because she was human and Tamlin didn’t want to do that to a human.
“I just want to know what you think you’re doing.” It was Lucien—that familiar lazy viciousness coating each word.
“What are you doing?” Tamlin snapped. Through the space between the hinge and the door I could glimpse the two of them standing almost face-to-face. On Tamlin’s nonbandaged hand, his claws shone in the morning light.
“Me?” Lucien put a hand on his chest. “By the Cauldron, Tam—there isn’t much time, and you’re just sulking and glowering. You’re not even trying to fake it anymore.”
My brows rose. Tamlin turned away but whirled back a moment later, his teeth bared. “It was a mistake from the start. I can’t stomach it, not after what my father did to their kind, to their lands. I won’t follow in his footsteps—won’t be that sort of person. So back off.”
He also admits that how he initially interacted with Feyre was fake, which is honestly fair enough, she did kill his friend. And I suppose since he came to love her despite that means they did fall in love despite the curse.
I’m not trying to convince anyone their love was forced or it wasn’t real or anything like that. It’s just that the way it was written made it seem like that to me personally because I found it hard to believe he could love her like that despite her killing his friend not too long ago, if it weren’t for curse which made him try.
That said, he did obviously fall in love with her and their interactions were very sweet and he would’ve sacrificed anything for her - literally - so all in all feylin is a very wholesome ship.
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nestaislife · 1 year
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bUt DoN’t yOu gEt iT? hE cAn rEAd hEr So wELL cAuSE hE CaReS sO mUCh
How could sjm write this expecting people to side with cassian and HOW CAN PEOPLE EVER SIDE WITH CASSIAN??
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So when are we going to talk about this?
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nestaislife · 1 year
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You’re right, she did resent him (I was a bit hazy on the beginning, but I skimmed through it now), but she also comes to terms with that luxury and safety and starts to appreciate it fairly early on, especially the paintings/painting - which does makes sense. I would also add that her initial resentment might have partially been fuelled by her beliefs at that point in the story but once she learns more about him she can let go of those resentments along with those beliefs which then just leaves the good things she got associated with Tamlin.
Although to be honest this may not even be what made it feel forced to me, but more the premise of the story… basically I found it hard to believe that Tamlin would have ever been able to love her like that after she killed his friend if it wasn’t for the goal of breaking the curse - especially within such short time -, and I don’t think Feyre would have loved him as much as she had, if she had experienced the same kind of safety and luxury in her life beforehand. But maybe I’m just trying to read that into Feyre’s unconscious mind because it’s the feeling I got from the story.
They did have really lovely moments though and you could see that they truly loved each other by the end. And I suppose whether it was circumstantial or not doesn’t really matter, whatever happened, led them there and they probably could have been very happy if it wasn’t for sjm ruining everything.
While I'm at it I also want to say that no, Feylin was not born because Feyre was so starved for love from her abusive family that she fell for "the first creature that was kind to her" and was rendered incapable of telling possessiveness from genuine love. No.
If that were true, then she'd have actually fallen in love with Isaac Hale first, not Tamlin.
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nestaislife · 1 year
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Let’s not forget about when he physically pushed her until she fainted as punishment for something that should never have been punished in the first place
But that’s okay because he was just protecting her from GETTING KILLED by the ✨oh-so-lovely-feminist-Rhysand✨
Seeing multiple men on tiktok (because of course) praising Cassian for being “such a good guy” and saying “Nesta doesn’t deserve him” is scary. But unfortunately not surprising in the the least bit.
How can you read about Cassian
locking Nesta in a house house she can’t escape without his help
laughing at Nesta physically harming herself
telling Nesta everybody hates her
Throwing a temper tantrum and yelling at Nesta in public when Nesta doesn’t want to accept the mating bond
Taking advantage of Nesta and using her for sex when he knows she is in a bad mental state and using sex as a coping mechanism
Not to mention Cassian locking her in a house making him her only option for sex which he knows that’s her only coping mechanism now that he’s taken alcohol away from her.
And not come to the conclusion that he is an abusive piece of shit. Like I said it’s scary men see Cassian as “good person”
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nestaislife · 1 year
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I’m not sure if I remember the beginning of the story right, but I thought Isaac wouldn’t have been able to make much of a dent in their poverty while Tamlin could. I’m not saying that their feelings weren’t genuine in the story but I also thought that if feyre had a different background and met tamlin under those circumstances they might not have developed feelings for each other while in acotar they were somewhat “forced” together by the story, because tamlin had to fall in love with her so that she could fall in love with him and eventually save everyone (ie his love for her could’ve unknowingly come from a duty he felt for his people), and from feyre’s pov that was first time she didn’t have to worry about anything else, not her family or her own safety, and I think that sudden change, that sudden sense of safety and living for herself even if just a little bit AND associating all of that with one single person might have made her fall in love with him.
Of course his love was genuine, as shown by the fact that he sends her away rather than risk losing her even though she could save his people, and feyre surely wouldn’t have gone utm if she didn’t truly love him, but I also think that love from her side was more circumstantial than anything and it would have “worn off” after a while - they had only been together for a month or two at that point and throughout that time I was never convinced they were meant to end up together - I was fully shipping her with lucien because that felt a lot less forced to me.
But of course feylin in acotar was a thousand times better than feysand ever was and sjm butchered tamlin’s whole character and I hate her for it
While I'm at it I also want to say that no, Feylin was not born because Feyre was so starved for love from her abusive family that she fell for "the first creature that was kind to her" and was rendered incapable of telling possessiveness from genuine love. No.
If that were true, then she'd have actually fallen in love with Isaac Hale first, not Tamlin.
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nestaislife · 1 year
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The NERVE of feyre to call nesta embarrassing and talk about how her actions reflect badly on the ic with straight face… i almost threw the book out the window
the parallel between what happened to feyre in spring and what happens to nesta in acosf is so strong that i cannot believe the author wrote it and did not see it
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nestaislife · 1 year
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those who think feyre is justified in toppling the spring court... would tamlin also be justified if he uprooted the lives of everybody in velaris and brought war to their home because she hurt him hmmmmm
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nestaislife · 1 year
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The only reason for this was to make it seem like Cassian cared about her with the whole “she keeps saying she won’t train *there* so imma be the hero and make her train here because I’m so smart and realised her hidden messages about what she wants and that proves that I truly see her” bit
All so that we might not judge him for the whole “oh she uses sex to avoid dealing with her trauma so imma go rail her cause who cares about her emotional state if she’s hot” bit or the countless examples of him betraying her for the ic and not standing up for her against Rhysand while standing up for rhysand against her and also pushing her physically to the point of fainting as punishment for something that EVERYONE IN THE IC should’ve done long long ago
So much freaking bullshit in that whole book
This isn’t a new take I think, but why would Feyre and Rhysand and all of the IC agree to force Nesta to train at Windhaven if they KNEW how misogynistic the Illyrians were? The first thing Nesta is told when she gets to Windhaven is that all weapons she touches will be buried because she’s a woman and could potentially be on her period.
Like what made the IC think that it was a good idea to do that? That eventually if she just “trains her trauma out” that she’ll eventually come around to living in a new world. No brain cells present in any of them I think.
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nestaislife · 1 year
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I ship Nesta with freedom
freedom from responsibilities and the weight of her family name
freedom from socializing
freedom from the mold her human body forced her in
financial freedom
and especially freedom from the goddamn House and her goddamn "family"
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nestaislife · 1 year
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And it’s not just Rhys holding the same view - it’s also Feyre changing hers and starting to agree with Rhys… Feyre truly just becomes his obedient lapdog, but “hE’s A fEmINiSt iCoN” right??
you guys remember when rhys told feyre that velaris might not be ready for nesta and feyre told him that nesta wasn't a feral animal and then feyre feels guilty about challenging him? they take a walk by the barge where they promise to call each other out but rhys still holds the same view of nesta through ACOFAS and ACOSF. he never has to reevaluate his view of her and eventually he's validated in his belief that she needs to be controlled
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nestaislife · 1 year
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acotar!Lucien was so nonchalantly hot
that scene where he's cleaning his weapons or whatever when Feyre asks him about the Suriel
when he's already on a horse when Feyre seeks him out in the stables
where he chugs a bottle of presumably faerie wine on their picnic while laying on a blanket on the ground
when he climbs up a fountain to remove a bloody head
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nestaislife · 1 year
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Nesta should’ve just taken up Lanthys on his offer and would’ve saved herself the continuous pain and suffering she’ll have to endure next to the ic
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