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I am alive, struggling but alive.
With my old VTM game ended, we are starting the long anticipated of Galewater (a bizarre backwater town of west Virginia) and I'm working on character portraits. (I was shouted at to post them here.)
Along with @letstalktea @inkyquince @necroticguts and some others, here are their characters
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Going on hiatus.
Going to throw myself into finishing the Eden pregnancy writing for the game for the next while. No set time limit on when this hiatus will end, but I'll be back eventually. Apologies to all the asks in my inbox right now.
It might be a while after that until its coded and in the game as the coders are working on fixing the mobile graphic issues and combat, but eventually!
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Booping is now on.
(pssst. Hey. You)
(turn your fucken boops on)
WHERE THE FUCK DO I TURN IT ON ILL CHECK DESKTOP.
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(pssst. Hey. You)
(turn your fucken boops on)
WHERE THE FUCK DO I TURN IT ON ILL CHECK DESKTOP.
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So I remember reading that Malleus Maleficarum was Dare's favorite book... Would you wanna write about a witch hunter Darius perhaps?
He'd be a terrible witchfinder, he's taking any and all bribes. Oh shit, fresh bread? Not a witch.
But he is absolutely threatening reporting his lil darling when they reject him. No, you say yes to being his wife/travelling companion or you get sent to the torture chambers.
I imagine they're a local healer, likely collecting herbs from the local forest to use as anti-septics for all the farmers who get open wounds. They're well respected, but healers who don't automatically send people to the church are prime targets for witchfinders. And the community is too afraid of being dragged in to interfere with his "investigation".
If he can, he'll impregnate you to baby trap you. If he can't, well he'll make up a rumour that you've been doing sodomy. Smh, the devil is in your head, whispering sins to enact. You should repent by coming with him, he'll bring you to a convent! Or so he says. The reality is that he's keeping you for himself.
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What if Darespawn came around his work most days to bring him lunch. Some days they even cook for his boys too, and they’re always nice to them even if most of their attention is on their dad while they’re visiting. But one day one of the younger, newer guys starts being extra nice to Darespawn and not so subtlety flirting with them. How would Dare react to one of his workers flirting with his kid?
Is this in the context of Dare and the spawn having an incestuous relationship or a platonic one?
He's going to be protective either way, but it's going to be different. In the case he and the spawn are bumping nasties, he shuts down each and every oggle with a glare of his own, encourages you not to talk to any of them and to stay in his office. No more cooking for his workers, either. You might encourage one or two of them, and he doesn't want to risk a suit by firing them for making a move.
In the platonic case, the glare is still there. He still encourages you to stay in his office. But there just might be one young lad who's been on the team for the past year who is really nice and responsible and maybe you should talk to him and none of the others. Aka, he has an adopted work son and he's trying to make him part of the actual family. But none of the others! They're rascals who don't deserve you!
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I wish there was an event where we could request Eden keep us in the cage as a kind of therapy for high trauma. I know it sounds weird, but enclosed spaces can actually help people feel more secure and give them the sense that they do not have to worry about anything at all. I’m not sure how Eden would respond to this request though.
It's something I've considered writing, but it'd have to wait until I was done with pregnancy and my nightmare scenes. I'm also unsure how Eden would respond to it - I'll figure it out when the time comes.
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Of the people in Dare’s life, who do you think would be the most likely to help a spouse who told them the extent of his crimes/asked for help escaping. Or if they noticed red flags of abuse in the relationship.
I know most of his family’s not going to be of great help, but would anyone? How would Dean react?
Dean is the most likely to help, yeah. He doesn't have the fear of Molly and he's well adjusted, so he sees its fucked up. But he also has a love and idolises Dare to the point where it'll take him a bit to not push the realisation that something is wrong away.
He would try to do it by anonymously reporting his concern to the police. If that doesn't work, then it'd take his husband pushing him to try and take you in without Dare knowing it was Dean. At least until he could find a new job.
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They are roommates :)
The one time I'm a player and I make a straight man every points at him and calls him gay. He's traumatized pls.
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I am hoping you the Eden expert, can answer this question. I am wondering what Eden’s currently ‘canon’ personality is supposed to be like. Or what we can assume so far. I have gathered various information from random searching, and so my depiction of Eden is all over the place. So I am not sure what is canon, and I think the term is ‘fanon’.
I believe in the past it was assumed Eden enjoys hurting PC, but Vrel later confirmed that Eden does not actually enjoy it. I think Eden did worse than spanking in a very old build before? Like sticking PC’s hand in fire I think. This may be fanfiction. Unsure. But so how extreme is Eden willing to go with abuse?
In the past it was also assumed Eden does not want kids, but this was also later said to be false by Vrel. I think.
It is understandable why the moor rescue was removed, but I found there are discussions of removing other rescues because they do not fit Eden’s character, but this has not been done because various reasons like popularity. More specifically Eden’s crying afterwards is debated.
Does that include the Asylum rescue? I really do not know if the Asylum rescue has been removed. I personally believe Eden being angry after a rescue and not crying would make more sense. Eden seems like the type who was told to not cry because it is ‘weak’ hence lashes out with anger instead. Is this more reasonable or does it not fit Vrel’s vision? Softer Eden is sweet to see though. I like to think Eden cares.
I believe Vrel also mentioned wanting to create a new rescue scene for Eden to display their heroism. That suggests Eden cares for PC I think. Do you think it would be understandable for Eden to save PC but get angry once home and perhaps punish PC? Or is there any confirmation this would not be the case? Again, it is sweet to see Eden cry over PC. I am simply unsure if this is realistic by Vrel’s vision.
I also know there was and there still is a lot of debate about Eden’s softer moments and if they fit Eden’s character because they were not actually written by Vrel. Like the radio. Personally feel that Eden really would enjoy some softer moments to imitate what is supposed to be a healthy relationship like in the books Eden reads. Also, it is like a reward for PC’s good behavior. It also is manipulative or controlling in a way. Too abusive Eden may result in PC running away and maybe with the kids if they have any. But I am not sure this is accurate? I think these discussions also apply to Eden finding PC in town after 1 week and the dates.
Overall current Eden scenes and debate suggest Eden sees PC as both a partner and a possession, but not an equal. Vrel said Eden loves PC in a twisted way and loves PC if they get something out of it. Or something like that. I am unsure what that means. Is it the companionship really all they care about? It is difficult to comprehend the lack of love because Eden is so loyal to PC.
So I am wondering if the softer moments are reasonable? Or if they are out of character? I do like the loving and tender moments, but debate suggests they are unrealistic. Has Vrel mentioned anything about Eden having a canon softer side? Vrel has mentioned facts like Eden’s favorite skin contact is holding hands. This suggests some romantic feelings I think. Vrel mentioned wanting to ‘peel back the layers’ of Eden overtime which may mean Eden will let PC in more. It seems like Eden’s romantic side is what is heavily debated.
In conclusion, I am unsure what the ideal vision for Eden is. And I am suffering a rollercoaster of emotions. I love Eden, but also fuck Eden and please lock and chain me up in your cabin’s secret underground cellar and have your way with me. Not canon just think that would be fun lol. Sorry this was so long!
Hi! You're right, there's a lot of conflicting scenes with Eden and new lore by Vrel also has helped blur the lines and make writing Eden a lil more confusing.
I'll try to go through these one by one. Prepare for a long post my dudes.
1) Eden never put PC's hand in the fire. That's violence that goes beyond what DoL enjoys portraying, and the only time something similar has been used is the coal walking scene. Though correct, Eden does not enjoy physically hurting PC, nor do they enjoy being mentally or emotionally abusive. This does not mean that Eden is incapable of abuse, as they do it all of the time. It's just that Eden's preferred form of abuse is physical restriction. We see this with the collar and the cage. They can and will be driven to physical abuse when they've been pissed off enough, but they don't get any pleasure from it, unlike restriction, which does blur the line between punishment and kink.
2) I assumed Eden would not want kids due to the difficulty of providing for them out in the forest. I was wrong, but everyone here sees me as the arbiter of Eden thoughts, so it spread. Vrel later came and corrected the myth, not only does Eden want kids they want all of the kids - Mormon style, y'know? This is why I say to take things I say that don't have a Vrel confirmation with a grain of salt, I too get things wrong.
3) The UFarm rescue was pushed to be removed for a couple of reasons: character inconsistencies and Eden becoming too much of an ex machina character that PC is able to use to get out of any bad situation without working on their stats. The character inconsistencies are that it had been confirmed by Vrel that Eden wouldn't even actually know how to get to the UFarm, and also Eden would have to get past a lot of guards to even get to PC in that rescue - yet no uproar or anything is heard.
I feel the Asylum rescue makes sense now that the fucking bomb has been removed. The Asylum is in Eden's back yard so to say. They could easily stumble across it. The issue with the moment of crying is that in every other moment where Eden finds PC after they've been gone a long while, their reaction is indeed anger. It's an inconsistency. I'd tweak that scene a little to be less lovey. Eden isn't exactly emotional beyond their anger.
For those not in the know, a lot of the soft Eden scenes were added by a particular contributor who I won't name. This person, despite writing for, coding for and playing the game, did not like dark content, and so chose to make Eden the contradiction we see now. They rage quit writing when they were met with criticism as they had gone over contribution manager's heads to do so and often added things without approval. Prior to them, Eden was very much seen as what they were - a punishment. Still an LI, but one of the worse ones due to their controlling and cruel nature.
We also have to factor in that Vrel has changed his mind on a few things over the years. Eden might not have been as normal when he first added them as he says they are now. I'm saying normal - Eden isn't normal, but I can't find another suitable word rn. One example of changes: initially Eden had an outhouse and would use moss to wipe once they've been to the toilet. They would have to fill the bathtub up by hand. Vrel changed it, now Eden has plumbing (curtesy of Bailey btw).
4) Softer Eden isn't being removed from the game. It's just being re-shuffled to make more sense in certain contexts. For example, the radio scene. Eden hates modern tech. Them accepting the radio without so much as an English Check from PC is eye rolling. I also re-wrote some of the town date that can happen with PC (such as Eden having sex with PC in the park and in the changing room. Eden is terrified of town, I don't think they would do that. These re-writes have been confirmed and are waiting coding. Eden should now end the date and take PC into the forest for some sex instead).
And yeah. Eden does see PC as a partner, but it's in the whole tradwife/husband dynamic thing (regardless of genders used in your saves). PC is their love, but is their property. Despite how much Eden can recognise the evil of others hurting PC, they excuse their own behaviour as they've convinced themself it's for PC's own good.
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Hello! I seem to have read somewhere that the reason Bailey never asks for payment during our stay at Eden's cabin might be because Eden is paying for us. I'm sorry if this might be a weird question or if I'm asking the wrong person, but is this confirmed somewhere in the QnAs or is this just someone's headcanon? Anyway, thank you for your time, and for writing wonderful Eden scenes! I look forward for more Eden contents from you~
You're right! I can't recall where exactly its from and I have so many screenshots it's ridiculous but it has been said that Eden pays for PC while they're with them. It may have been on Vrel's subscribestar - which I'm not on - and someone who is on it said it in the discord. I'd take it with a grain of salt for now?
Also thank you very much! I'm working hard to get it perfect.
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Do you know if they deleted some of the Eden date events? The events that occur if Eden finds you in town a week later but at high love. I made some save files during Eden town encounter events but noticed some of them didn’t load in the new update. Instead my character is in town in these saves with no event playing out. In particular, there’s an event where Eden find PC in pain while crying, and he comforts PC saying “I hate seeing you like this, is the forest not dangerous enough for you?” This event still loads in the older version of dol. I’m just wondering if this was a purposeful silent edit?
Not to my knowledge, no. Nothing has been said in any of the changelogs. I wrote some adjustments to certain scenes to make them more in character but haven't removed anything and im unsure if coders have gotten around to adding my adjustments as theyre not in changelogs. The only thing that was removed was the UFarm rescue iirc.
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OMG. Pc putting sunscreen on Eden is such a sweet image!!
Makes me wonder if he would even let PC do it for him, he doesn't strike me as a guy that believes in sunscreen. PC would definitely need to do some convincing for him to finally accept their help
Show him pictures of people who work in fields and have him guess their ages. Then he'll use the sunscreen.
I don't think it would be that hard to convince him, honestly. It's an excuse to be touched in a way that isn't sexual and doesn't have to be romantic, either. Keeps that blush of theirs nice and light.
As touch starved as Eden is I do think he'd end up treasuring it.
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In my mind an Eden with tanned skin and dark hair is the superior version of him I'm sorry-
Like, skin tanned by spending way too much time outdoors, hair dark and messily cut, scars from battling the wolves and past traumas.
Calloused and rough hands, hard as hammers when they need to be, gentle while cupping your cheek.
*sighs dreamily*
Hear me out, PC working it into their morning routine a moment where they put sunscreen on Eden. He needs it to protect his skin, but it's also just an excuse to touch him and feel close to him.
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The second I get a blonde Eden I riot
There's some good blond Eden art out there but brunet Eden will always be my guy.
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This is somewhat of a personal ask but,,,
How do you think Eden would react to a spouse with DID?
You can avoid answering the question if you're not comfortable
First things first - I am not well versed in DID. My maximum experience is through watching DissosiaDID on YouTube, and I understand that their system's experiences may be wildly different compared to another system's.
Second, I have to warn that it's not a good experience.
Each alter is their own person. This is where the big trouble with Eden is. Because they're not going to accept that, especially if an alter wants a partner of their own that isn't Eden, or if alters try to make the body leave. It is highly likely that Eden's going to use the cage more. It's very likely that Eden will cause more trauma and that there may be split alters because of this.
Eden doesn't even take good care of themself mentally - trauma? Who knows her, amaright? (Eden has severe PTSD. They will not acknowedge this nor think you're right when you say so). So a spouse for Eden is going to have a hard time managing to get across to them that they have any mental difference, that this will make them behave differently, and that it doesn't mean they don't like Eden if they have a negative reaction, some of them are involuntary.
All Eden is going to see is "I lied about loving you, I'm trying to get away, put me in the cage big guy!"
And this goes for any mental difference, DID, autism, PTSD, psychosis disorders etc. You can communicate that x thing causes x reaction because of x thing you experienced - and whether or not Eden is going to respect this and treat that with care is going to be based on their own wants. Not yours.
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