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Jokes on me, I had another Sabo one that I forgot to finish
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i think we'll see the holes in heavens happiness when it comes to sir pentious and future characters like Molly who have loved ones in Hell and miss them. How can heaven be perfect if the ones you love aren't there?
Also you saying the Vees represents those vices actually makes me really want to see them redeem, or chose redemption. Maybe some might not survive before making that choice, but I really want Vox to be redeemed. I want to see that literally even when it seems absolutely impossible, that anyone can change and be redeemed.
I really hope that is hazbin hotels core narrative, no matter how many people doubt Charlie's dream. And I have a feeling that Sir Pentious might have been a monster in his past life considering his weapons of mass destruction.
But I also kind of want the realization that heaven and hell might not be so different, especially with what Emily said and her beliefs that all human souls hold the same value
Thinking about the way vox positions his brand and his own image -- his company stands for perfection, for innovation, for trustworthiness and progress; how hard he probably works to maintain a respectable image while wangling Val's whims. This is a man who, in a hell that respects pure brute power over anything else, created an empire based in consumer trust and playing on the human instinct to follow the herd, don't fall behind, keep up.
We know that alastor made a name for himself by almost deliberately playing a provocateur, upturning the status quo, framing himself as an unpredictable threat, and it's fairly consistent in behaviour patterns as well -- Alastor relishes in disturbing other people's sense of comfort; he turns to fear and intimidation as his first weapon.
Both of them use reputation as a tool but in completely opposite ways, and even in their personal relationships as well (another interesting point -- Alastor is much more genuine with people he does consider friends, like Mimzy and Rosie, but Vox never seems to fully let down his persona even with Velvette and Valentino? He has that big fake smile on with Velvette in ep2, and with Val he drops the smile but still plays the charming, reasonable, logical business partner -- at least until Valentino gets under his skin by mentioning Alastor. There's technically ep8 but I'm almost certain that's an exceptional case?) And both of them know very well how to play to their audiences
Well there isn't really a conclusion here but I find it really funny that in one season we're sorta already seen both of them break their own image to an extent? Vox obviously showing a total lack of composure on live tv, but also, Alastor's loss to Adam. Like I've seen some people say it's not a big deal because Adam is so strong, but the problem is that Alastor's reputation relied on the mystery of his power ("no one knows where he came from; he just started toppling overlords one day, and not small ones either"), and losing to Adam puts a definite upper limit to his power.
Basically he went from unknowable eldritch monster to like, powerful overlord sinner, but still a sinner.
Thoughts about recent leaks under the cut
You know what else is interesting? Vox's biggest asset is not his personal power (though it's almost certainly not small either) but rather the trust the people of hell invests in his brand. It makes me think that actually the primary conflict of season 2 will not be a physical battle (Adam) but a battle over the narrative. And who's the people of hell going to trust more, the overlord that's been providing them with technology and protection(?) for decades, or the princess of hell who's not here visible in public eye for ages, and heaven, who's been trying to kill them since who knows when? (obviously charlie stopped the exterminations which is a big plus on her record but that wasn't exactly a show of redemptive power was it? The strength to resist and unite yes but also the power of having hell's big daddy on your side)
And okay I'm not super sure still what vox is planning to do with hypnotizing the whole of hell, but I wager rather than any aggressive action (not his style) it'll have to do with convincing people that they really are irredeemable, that hell is the status quo and come on, do you really think those angels believe in redemption? Do you really think you can be redeemed after everything you've done? Pentious was an exception; he wasn't all that bad to begin with, and you don't think the princess' silly hotel can actually help you, do you?
And y'know what putting it this way it's suddenly clear to me why the vees are designed that way (because obviously they were planned to be one of the main villains way ahead of time) -- they represent respectively mass entertainment/social media/porn and drugs, all possible means of addiction and soft control and getting people to basically surrender to their own vices (more than hell already does of course) (gambling is another addictive means and I'm hopeful but sceptical that they'll explore it through husk)
But anyway. The Vees have much to lose if redemption succeeds (technically all the overlords do but eh). It's why I'm sorta hopeful that S2 and maybe S3 will feature a much more in-depth discussion of the topic of redemption? Who can be redeemed, what does redemption involve (beyond literally sacrificing yourself?), are there any limits to redemption?
Though putting it this way makes me think none of the vees aren't going to meet good endings ahshdd or at least they'll have to fall very very far to even get a chance at it bc why tf would you even consider redemption if so much of your power depends on people just giving into hopelessness and dependency? Not that any of them would ever want to be redeemed but...idk. and really that's a huge conflict in the show right? Charlie doesn't fundamentally understand why some people wouldn't want to be redeemed not just bc of addiction or other reasons, but the ones who benefit from the status quo (Alastor, vees, the overlords to some extent or another). And heck like Rosie and cannibal town helped stop the extermination but how much do they actually care for redemption vs getting a chance to eat angel meat? The show makes it pretty clear it's the latter. Charlie struggles to understand even Angel and it's why it's husk who gets through to him, cuz they can understand each other (but it doesn't mean Charlie's efforts are insignificant, they created the space for redemption in the first place)
And that's I think the central conflict of the show? That heaven (at least the side represented by Emilie) and Charlie believes everyone will to some extent want to be redeemed, it's just the lack of opportunities; Adam and lute and sera's side, who disdain and fear that if provided any opportunity, hell will always rise up and overturn heaven (ngl heaven and hell in Hazbin always reminded me of gated communities?); the vees who want hell under their control and in extension to convince that redemption is too far out of reach to bother; and maybe like Lilith too who I sorta suspect doesn't actually care for redemption as much as overturning heaven's authority? (But all we know of her is like a few minutes/seconds so like...)
Final thoughts but I was admittedly disappointed in the presentation of episode 6; for redemption to be worthwhile you need to show why heaven is so good, not just why hell really sucks, and imo the welcome to heaven song isn't really that convincing? It's a clever mirror to like a happy day in hell, but you can't just tell me everyone is happy every day in heaven and call it a day, like what's life actually like in heaven, rlly it just looks like a metropolitan city but in pastels?? Do people in heaven ever have personal conflicts; how are those settled; what does social life look like; happiness isn't just the lack of like addiction, poverty, pain, etc tho that goes a long way.
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3 pages short Alucard x Trevor comic on my patreon c:
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full on patreon c:
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some recent patrn updates
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full on patreon (still sfw)
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So I’m on a trip with my robotics team and there’s only two “girls” (me, an enby, and a cis girl), so we get our own beds in our own room, but the guys are rooming four to a room, but there’s only two beds in each room. Which means that two guys are sleeping on the floor every night.
I’m not joking. They were literally arguing over who’s sleeping on the floor tonight (apparently they plan on rotating).
And I asked them “why don’t you just share a bed?” And they all gave me the same answer:
“No, that’s weird! That’d be gay!”
And I just looked at them and I decided to break the bad news to them
“If lying next to another guy makes you wanna suck dick, you already wanted to suck dick.”
I’ve never seen so many Straight Guys™️ enraged by a single sentence before
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wet cat shidi for the svsss gotcha for gaza event
if you wanna check out the whole project and donate for svsss art, check out @SVSSSAction on twitter!!
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Bingliu week.
Day 5. wrath/mercy
"I never thought I'd see you like this"
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mushen prompt by littlemoonflowr for SVSSAction aka SVSSS Gotcha for Gaza !!
the donation form is still open til the 21st :D
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A prompt for SVSSSAction, requested by bluepink_ss.
Rumour has it that Shen Qingqiu has the silkiest fur in the land... *** SVSSS Gotcha 4 Gaza is a currently ongoing event on Twitter to raise funds for Gaza. If you're interested in donating and getting a gift for as little as $5, please head over to that account for more info!
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Poison Ivy! Shen Yuan AU because this is taking my brain hostage.
Basically, Shen Yuan transmigrates as a demonic plant cultivator, or some kind of weird alchemist, and that means he is both able to control plants snd that his body has a weird biology.
Originaly, this character was supposed to be a minor character related to one of the wives, but SY's wife beam is just too strong for him to stay unnoticed and now he is the "untouchable deadly beauty" of a city somewhere and Binghe is incredbly smug that he is basically the only one who can kiss this man without dying from the shit ton of poison/venon in his body.
(Bingbing is desperately not thinking about his father and cousin, who would also be immune)
Also, just for funsies, it can be revield that SQQ's ass is like a venus trap and it dissolves the heavenly pilar so Binghe can both enjoy that weird pain AND insist that it's better for him to bottom.
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i do think that svsss provides really good insight into the author/reader dynamic. as a reader, sqq remembers a lot more of the plot details than airplane, which i think is actually super realistic and funny. on the other hand, airplane has better insights into the characters' overall motivations and picks up on / is receptive to the genre shift MUCH more quickly than poor sqq. sqq is so focused on the original plot of pidw that he struggles to see the people around him as real individuals, which contributes a lot to his obliviousness.
you can also apply this to their approaches to violence i think. obviously they both kind of struggle to grapple with the realities of violence bc they see it as plot/destined/unreal etc. but sqq changes in this regard as he starts to see the other characters as people instead of "cannon fodder." compared to sqq, airplane is still kind of blasé about death, which might be partly a personality thing and partly because he wrote this world - he is used to dealing out death on the page, so he has an inherently less invested perspective than sqq.
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A concept:
SQH is forced to reveal the system and/or his status as a transmigrator, due to a truth serum or whatever other convenient plot device. I HIGHLY doubt MBJ would just pass this knowledge on to LBH, especially if LBH didn’t ask—and how on earth would he think to ask??
So instead, I think at least part of it happens with LBH around. He watches SQH have a meltdown over being revealed, spewing nonsense about writing a book and then waking up inside it. He doesn’t even need to catch the entire mess, only fragments of it—enough to understand that it’s possible to jump from one world to the next, to end up in a world you already know.
And he starts wondering. Thinking about someone else he knows who has always known too much and brushed it off by claiming he read it in some book or another that Binghe can’t confirm exists. And though SQH appears to have found himself in this world as a child, who’s to say that’s the only possibility? His shizun’s personality changed suddenly and drastically, and he has no memories of his shizun having such startlingly extensive knowledge before that event.
What happens then depends on when this takes place: if it’s post-canon, he probably corners SQH to ask, and is smug about threatening him, then cradles the knowledge he receives close to his chest. Whether he brings this to his shizun is hard to tell, but he’d definitely carry himself with a light, happy air. Knowing that his shizun has always been kind to him and always loved him is simply euphoric. SQQ might notice him acting different and ask him about it, which might lead to a conversation—where SQQ is terrified at first, but relieved and simply relaxed by the end. He truly doesn’t mind being Shen Qingqiu and living what is technically a lie, but it’s… lovely to let his guard down a little around his husband, even if by this point “Shen Qingqiu” is no longer a mask he has to hide behind.
(Being post-canon is also fun because binghe can think back to the mausoleum and go “wow. maybe this should have been obvious.”)
Alternatively, I LOVE the idea that this happens earlier, during the 5 years where SQQ is dead. Rather than excitement and giddiness at solving a puzzle and figuring out more about his beloved, Binghe feels only grief and a slow horror as the pieces fall into place.
Maybe he still doesn’t know why his shizun pushed him into the abyss, but if none of the abuse he suffered was actually at his hands, if shizun truly was only ever kind to him… at the least he can begin to understand why his shizun might have sacrificed himself for him.
When he corners SQH this time, it’s with real anger, laced with fear and regret. SQH’s panicked answers give him enough information to piece together that SQQ likely didn’t have a choice in pushing him into the abyss.
So he wallows. His beloved never once tried to hurt him, was always kind to him and protected him. Likely knew he would escape the abyss alive. And he repaid that with threats and coercion, and drove his shizun to his death.
Years later, when he is in a dream and suddenly realises that his shizun is real, he doesn’t slowly smirk and begin to plot. He instead falls to his knees, gripping tightly to his shizun’s clothing and sobbing—much to SQQ’s confusion. But, still slightly numb with the whiplash of being kissed clumsily without warning and then suddenly cried on by a man he’s convinced is going to kill him, all SQQ can do is gently pat his disciple’s head.
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Doing a little thing.
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got to say I think the funniest thing about the bingge extra is shen yuan spends how many pages lamenting about oh gods what did he do he turned a perfectly good stallion novel protagonist gay how could this possibly happen only for the og Supposedly Super Straight protagonist to land in his lap and within like a single hour of being awake ends up at "yeah okay well I can't not fuck him"
anyways bingge canonical bi disaster no one was ever straight in that novel
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