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found an old undercover analysis, might as well share it. i wont just let it rot in my notes.

undercover lyric analysis thing

i will only be covering about the lyrics that are sort of es centered. took the lyrics from the official en yt tl.

Ravaging, brawling

Losers please exit left

Even with accusations full of faults and mistakes

You will for sure, with a smile for sure

Be pleased and satisfied

Take, grab, steal

'Dissect the thoughts of "why"

Looking for mistake overtime

To know someone, to bind them in their 'EGO'

Can you really judge them?

The fine line between "Hate" and "OK"

Shouldn't you look beyond your EGO, before it all ends?

After knowing all i wonder

Can you really say INNOCENT?

Decievings, "UNDER", ineraseable

'Ravaging, brawling'

ravaging means causing massive damage and brawling means fighting roughly but the meaning in slang can be a loud disagreement. we are causing massive damage with the verdicts we give out, and we are loudly disagreeing with eachother.

'Losers please exit left'

exiting left can maybe also be represented as swiping left. swiping left means rejecting somebody, but in this case, rejecting their ideals and beliefs. (idk just thought of the dating app type)

'Even with accusations full of faults and mistakes-'

they're literally calling out a part of the community. some people just vote without analyzing the crime correctly, basically 'accusations full of faults and mistakes'.

'-You will for sure, with a smile for sure. Be pleased and satisfied'

in this part, the mv was showing each of the prisoners 1 by 1 smiling/grinning (?) but they were all mirroring es (looking at the same angle). why were all of them mirroring es? maybe its because es is supposed to be them embodiment of sin (their sins), i mean, undercover was literally a brief explanation of each of the prisoners mindset on their sin.

'Take, grab, steal. Dissect the thoughts of 'why''

i have a silly theory for this, but like, hear me out !!!

1. take = taking something/memories with consent (take as super-ego)

explanation : the super ego strives for moral perfection. the primary action of the superego is to suppress entirely any urges or desires of the id that are considered wrong or socially unacceptable, thus asking if said person consents to have their item taken.

2. grab = grabbing is taking something or with the milgram system, taking memories roughly/snatching something or can mean to cause a reaction in; affect (snatching the memories and grasping to a rough idea) (grab as id)

explanation : the id is a set of uncoordinated instincitual behaviors/desires, thus taking/grabbing memories without thinking about the consequences.

3. steal = steal is something/stealing memories, taking something/memories without permission or legal right and without intending to return it. (steal as ego)

explanation : the ego is a sense of self-esteem and self-importance that is balanced and grounded in reality. it allows a person to have confidence in their abilities and to assert themselves when necessary, but it does not become inflated or overbearing. the ego also is pushing us to confront or overcome our fears. many people are scared to steal so it would make sense that ego id steal.

sure, you can say take grab steal is just the same thing but im here to overanalyze stuff okay.

'dissect the thoughts of 'why' is pretty self explanatory.

'Looking for mistake overtime. To know someone, to bind them in their 'EGO''

looking for mistake overtime is self explanatory, each trial, new mv, you'll see more of the mistakes that has been done by the prisoners. binding someone in their ego, the ego is usually represented as self-worth/self-importance of a person, we are binding them in self-importance with our judgement. we are determining if their worthless (non-forgiveable/guilty) or important (forgiveable/innocent).

'Can you really judge them?'

loud correct buzzer. who gave us the right to judge anyways? we didn't do anything to deserve this. there really isn't a correct way to judge them, if we vote according to law, almost all of them would be guilty, if we vote by feelings it could be biased. everyone has different beliefs which makes it hard to determine who's right and who's wrong.

'The fine line between "Hate" and "OK". Shouldn't you look beyond your EGO, before it all ends?''

hate can be interpreted as morally black and OK is morally white. what's between them? morally grey, almost all of the prisoners are morally grey characters.

looking beyond our ego is basically voting without any bias towards the prisoners, basically beyond our ego. we have to vote correctly without any bias before it all ends because you can't reverse it anymore once it's done.

'After knowing all i wonder. Can you really say INNOCENT?'

wehwhehehehehwehehehebsxbrjficj... i think it implies that somewhere, sometime when milgram ends, according to the laws, most of them are going to jail, 'can you really say innocent?' or, when each trial progresses, more parts/information of their crime will be shown, and sometimes, it slowly become more unforgivable.

'Deceivings, "UNDER", ineraseable'

decievings can be interpreted into the story as 'deceivings of a sinner' type of thing, INMF can be used as reference (sorry muu). 'under' is probably just referencing the title "undercover". if you compile the ideas together, it just becomes deceivings undercover that are ineraseable?? i'm not to sure what to come up with this lyric. if you have an explanation, do tell.

probably alot of mistakes because this is old lmao

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kousaka-ayumu · 8 hours

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12th Prisoner in Milgram?

the key thing this theory is leaning on is the concept of the panopticon being 12 sectioned. whether the 12th section is a walkway or a cell doesn't matter for this theory, just that it exists.

10 sections is what you'd assume it to be considering the current canon number of prisoners. iirc there's eleven cells, though, with prisoner 11 implied to be es. my proposed theory is a metaphorical 12th prisoner, to round out the panopticon, and complete a clock face.

milgram seems to have a lot of links to time, and the passing of such, along with almost the loss or absence of time also being a factor. es with their amnesia, how the prisoners were presumably brought in moments after they committed / realized they committed murder (in what ever form it was), how there's an unspecified amount of time in between trials / es being awake.

the clock face and motif could be a natural progression to this theme. 11 confirmed prisoners (as of deep cover, kotoko calling es 011) could relate to the idiom of the 11th hour, a moment in time where it's the last possible moment or almost too late. it's sometimes used in horror or thriller narratives to pin point the moment just before everything goes wrong. having 11 prisoners on a clock face could be a really interesting way of implying guilt, or perhaps relating to how the prisoners were taken just after everything went wrong.

this leads me to the matter of the 12th section. for a clock to be complete, the 12th hour is necessary, even if time were to stop at the 11th hour. what's necessary to Milgram, even though its not explicitly shown? the audience.

the audience has been mentioned in passing, of course, as the voices the prisoners hear and as one of the driving forces behind es, but apart from mikoto saying how he thought milgram was a reality tv show, there's no acknowledgment of watching. of something outside of es or jackalope influencing the progression of milgram.

there's already been a slight commentary on the concept of watching and judging with fuuta, muu, and now kotoko as of Yonah. theres plenty of theories comparing those three to the audience, fuuta relating to the part of judging without fully understanding, muu specifically with her t2 song saying in the official English lyrics "I'm doing this just because I'm bored, we're just the same.", and kotoko with her strong belief in what she believes is true justice. there's more, of course, but those are the key points i remember.

with the commentary on the nature of judging that milgram already makes, it wouldn't be too far to assume that the audience has a bigger role than we already have. we already choose innocent or guilty, along with influencing the reasoning and contributing to the voices the prisoners hear.

es has been revealed to be their own character, with their own backstory and motives, so where would that leave us if es was supposed to be an audience insert? the milgram project is all about how the choices we make have consequences, along with the main theme of the prisoner's crimes.

i believe the 12th section has been reserved for us, the viewers. we're playing the role of judge, jury, and executioner in the same way we criticize kotoko for doing. it wouldn't surpirse me if at the end of the project, after the final verdicts for the prisoners, there's an extra set of votes. one for es, and one for us.

es is the audience mirror, and all of the prisoners have been grouped as a pair. if es is prisoner 011, the one they'd be grouped with is prisoner 012. you could argue es is a parallel to every prisoner in some way, and i'd agree, but that could also go for every character pairing possible. jackalope could also be es's duo pairing, but it feels unlikely as he's never been referenced as a prisoner, even slightly. we, on the other hand, would fit as es's duo due to the concept of the general audience having no specific gender, keeping the male and female prisoner count the same. almost opposite to es's non gender, we as the audience could technically be every gender, keeping the theme of the duos having "opposing" genders.

tldr; the audience is the 12th prisoner, being es's parallel for the prisoner duos.

feel free to add or object to this, its just an idea i've had sitting in my head for a while :]

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kousaka-ayumu · 8 hours

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Mentions of tumors, drugs

In the ending of Deep Cover, there's a gradual change from dull colors to bright colors.

This makes me think of both bioluminescence & chemiluminescence; some other things as well, but looking at it as a response to everything that's happened/will happen around Kotoko, I want to focus on parallels to those forms of light & energy. We've seen this in HARROW as well.

Admittedly, I haven't touched biochemistry in detail in a while, so if anything is mistaken, I'd like to know.

Starting with bioluminescence, usually caused by symbiosis (we'll get to that in a moment, but if you know, you know). Bioluminescence is effective for offense & defense—attracting familiars, warning predators, & mimicking other species.

Mimicry seems to be a theme in Deep Cover: from the young girl wanting to look like Kotoko, to Kotoko seeing herself as another warden, or at least with the clothes to match. It's a type of symbiosis, actually. The close interaction of those from different species. Like a human & a wolf, or a victim & their savior.

While bioluminescence is typically associated with marine life, there's also luminescent bacteria & bioluminescent imaging—which can be used to assess tumors, for example. However, regarding BLI, one of its disadvantages is limited depth.

Onto chemiluminescence, light as a result of a chemical reaction. In said reaction, there's a rise of energy that must descend to release light. Take Kotoko's grin in HARROW, & then Kotoko's conflicted expression at the end of Deep Cover. Rise of energy, then...?

It just makes me think of how feelings are associated with chemical reactions as well. Chemiluminescence is also used in forensics & to assess certain impurities.

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No one understands how I feel about this moment and the fact that both Kazui and Hinako's face is divided into two parts, where each part expresses a different, opposite emotion to the other.

The parts of their faces that look at each other are different. A smile and its absence. If you put them side by side, then both have the same half of their face smiling while the other half is not smiling.

It's such a small detail, but I'm just crazy about it. PLEASE...

More ramblings under the cut (i'm sowwy)

I generally love to think that they are opposites in most things. And the way they are posed in this frame just drives me crazy. He's smiling, she's not. She's smiling, he's not. But at the same time if they stand in the same direction, both will smile the same way and not.

I love to think that while Kazui is lying, Hinako is sincere and telling the truth. While Kazui grew up with a dog and was raised like that, he associates himself more with cats, while Hinako grew up with a cat in the house, but loves dogs more. (this is already my personal headcanon on Hinako's personality. That's how I see her. don't take it seriously if anything)

It's just.. just..... I like to think about the contrasts between them. That their personalities are contrasting, their emotions are contrasting, their feelings are contrasting. The green and red in the color circle are opposite each other. (if believe that Kazui is indicated in green in the MVs, and not someone else. And the scenes with Hinako's fall and death are accompanied by a red object)

At the same time, it's hard for both of them. Both are under public pressure. Both are trying to do something about it.

Similar and different.

When people say that "opposites attract," but this time it didn't happen. Just not in terms of a romantic relationship.

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kousaka-ayumu · 9 hours

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I think my most meta milgram theory is that all the prisoners relate to social issues in Japan (this was brought up by my friend but they don't have tumblr so I'm gonna post it here)

Haruka- ableism, specifically against learning disabilities. Haruka's story is all about how he was born "wrong" and how his mother didn't want him

Yuno- the abortion debate

Fuuta- online harassment and cancel culture

Muu- bullying, and how in social structures someone always has to push someone else down to be on top (the whole hourglass metaphor)

Shidou- curroption in the organ donation system, and how brain death is viewed in Japan

Mahiru- societal expectations of women, and the pressure to marry

Kazui- okay so since his crime is vague rn, either A. Cheating or if gay kazui theory is correct B. Lgbtq issues, could also be japan and it's issues with intimacy and how his wife felt unloved but he didn't realize

Amane- Japan and its history with cults

Mikoto- ableism against the mentally ill, and the "just endure it" view of mental illness in Japan which makes alot of people reluctant to reach for mental health help. It's probably why Mikoto seems to not realize he had DID or OSDD

Kotoko- curroption in the legal system, and how crime against women and children are often ignored by the police

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Kotoko's Connection with the Fairy Tale of Red Riding Hood

So THIS WAS SUPPOSED TO BE A JOKE POST, but I kept looking into it, and now here's a full blown analysis instead lol. I realized that Kotoko has many allusions to the story of Red Riding Hood besides the wolves and her signature red jacket. The themes of familial love, protection, and deception all seem to be reflected in Kotoko's actions and what we know of her past and personal life so far. So this post will detail more of the connections between her and this tale, as well as theorize on certain parts on what her story might reveal in the future!

MAJOR THANKS to my English major himejoshi librarian bunny mutual @lillyviarabbit for proof reading this so that my writing doesn't sound clunky af 🙏

A Quick Aside: The Other Side of this Tale

So...there's another side to the original tale of Red Riding Hood, one that deals with much heavier themes on what the story as a whole is supposed to symbolize. And I wanted to preface this by saying that I will not address those aspects in this little analysis. This is mainly because I just don't think we have enough evidence or hints as of now from Kotoko's past that suggests these parts from the Red Riding Hood story are also in her story. I did not want to speculate on these parts either because I wanted to treat them with respect, rather than simply speculate that they have to do with a fictional character's past when we don't even have any evidence to theorize that they do. So this post will only touch upon the more well known parts of the story instead!

Also I won't be talking about Jacques Roulet and his weird ass story because none of it makes sense to me with how it's related to Kotoko, so I will leave that to someone with a bigger brain to analyze that 💀

Allusions to Red Riding Hood Herself:

One of the major similarities between Kotoko and Red Riding Hood is — well — the red hooded jacket!

This jacket is the most recognizable part of the fairy tale, and it clearly sticks out in Kotoko's wardrobe as the outfit she wears while she's in her forest world, notably with the wolves she's running with in HARROW.

Appearance wise, Kotoko also seems to fit the bill for how Red has been portrayed throughout various iterations of the story over time.

Red's appearance generally describes a girl with short black hair and a bob that reaches down to be exact.

"Another difference lies in the fact that, in addition to [her hair] being black, Little Red Riding Hood’s hair is generally short, reaching to her chin at most, with a charming bob that frames her face."

The signature hood is also noted, with Kotoko's prisoner uniform being the only one to notably have a hood on it.

"It becomes a powerful indicator of sense. History shows that an object that goes on a woman’s or girl’s head has always been ambivalent, not to say ambiguous. It covers, it conceals, it protects, but it also alludes, adorns and attracts."

Not only does Kotoko's hood uniform reflect her similarity with Red Riding Hood, it also highlights Kotoko's tendency to protect/conceal all the aspects of herself she does not want to reveal to anyone else.

It's clear that Kotoko doesn't trust anyone else in the prison, wanting to conceal as much stuff about her as possible so she can analyze their behavior and how much they change following the time between trial 1 and trial 2. This secretive nature, interpreted by her actions and the hood she wears as a way for Kotoko to protect herself and her fragile self-worth, is also highlighted in Streaming Heart's lyrics.

"Though I seem to say many things, please try and seek out the real me. In the space between truth and lies, hidden away so well."

The Grandmother:

Another major fact that gets overlooked is how Kotoko offhandedly mentions in her family structure that she has a grandmother. As a lot of us already know, the main plot of Little Red Riding Hood is that the girl delivers foods to her grandmother, who is sick and lives in a house in the woods. This detail from her interrogation is rather...specific, given that she doesn't even mention having a grandfather, just a grandmother along with her parents and older brother.

One additional piece of evidence that connects to this is the symbolism of her birthday flower, Monstera Deliciosa!

In many Asian cultures, this plant can also symbolize a respect and honoring of the elderly. Interesting, considering that this is the plant Yamanaka picked out for Kotoko.

While we don't exactly know the details between Kotoko and the relationship she has with her grandmother, her birthday flower seems to hint that she has some kind of respect for her, or at least they are most likely on good terms with each other.

"Once upon a time there lived in a certain village a little country girl, the prettiest creature who was ever seen. Her mother was excessively fond of her; and her grandmother doted on her still more. This good woman had a little red riding hood made for her. It suited the girl so extremely well that everybody called her Little Red Riding Hood."

And that is why I wonder: did something happen to Kotoko's grandmother that made her realize how flawed and unfair justice can really be? Well, we know that in the story, the wolf disguises himself as Red's grandmother to try and trick her. But why litter Kotoko with all this wolf symbolism (besides the dog/tool dehumanization she's associated with) if she's supposed to allude to the character of Red Riding Hood?

The Wolf:

There is a major difference when it comes to the Tale of Red Riding Hood and Kotoko’s MV symbolism, which is the wolf’s role in each of their stories.

For Red, the wolf is the enemy. The wolf is one who tricks her from the very beginning, and the one who tries to eat her and her grandmother.

"Grandmother, what big arms you have!" "All the better to hug you with, my dear." "Grandmother, what big legs you have!" "All the better to run with, my child." "Grandmother, what big ears you have!" "All the better to hear with, my child." "Grandmother, what big eyes you have!" "All the better to see with, my child." "Grandmother, what big teeth you have got!" "All the better to eat you up with."

But Kotoko…she’s with the wolf. The wolf is instead her companion it seems, the one who runs and sits beside her when she’s doing her vigilante stuff.

And more importantly, the wolf seems like the one to be enabling her, helping her continue with rescuing the little girl and beating up the child kidnapper. It is the one thing by her side that encourages her to bare her fangs and protect the weak.

People have speculated that this wolf represents a person in Kotoko's life, a vigilante partner she used to have? Her older brother perhaps? Who knows really, but I think we can all agree that this wolf is a person who has influenced Kotoko a lot. It is the one thing that pushes her continue with this, to continue with the cycle of cruelty and violence in her act of handing out her own form of justice. And that brings me to Kotoko's jacket again.

The Red/Pink Jacket:

I want to address the difference between Kotoko's jacket in her forest world, as opposed to it in the real world. In the forest world, we see that the jacket is more of a hot pinkish color.

I'm not sure if this is fully because of the lighting, but the color difference for the jacket is very notable if you compare them side by side. In the real world, the jacket is clearly more red than pink:

So why make this jacket two be two different colors in two different places? Well, I'd like to theorize that the answer has to do with this girl that appears for a brief few seconds in HARROW, in the flashback sequence while Kotoko is beating up the child kidnapper dude.

Or as I like to call her: PINK SHIRT GIRL ✨

One final thing I wanted to talk about is how this girl relates to Kotoko, the different colors for her same jacket in the MV, and the sole reason why I think she wears a pink shirt. A lot of people have speculated that this girl is a younger version of Kotoko, possibly back when she was a child. Pink for Kotoko seems to emphasize her ideals at their most pure level.

When Kotoko is wearing her jacket when its pink, she's in her forest world that emphasizes Kotoko's her purpose in protecting the weak. She's emotional there, she falters, worn out by the running and desperate to continue on going. There is nothing shown in those scenes that shows her childlike ideals being tainted, yet.

But when Kotoko alludes to her self-hatred and the wolf urges her to go on with the attack, HARROW switches back to the real world where the jacket is red. We Kotoko smile after she presumably kills the child kidnapper guy as she declares that she wants to be "drowning in the knowledge that [she] is right", and thus, this seems like we the audience realize this is the moment when Kotoko's ideals begin to become more distorted than how they were presented in the forest world.

We see that she finally gains a satisfaction that everything that she did wasn't for completely nothing, and that she now has the purpose that makes her existence useful. While she does want to protect the weak and give out justice, it is not entirely motivated by altruism, as HARROW points out. When Kotoko's pink jacket becomes red, it seems to signify how her pure, child-like ideals become tainted and much more flawed compared to them initially.

This, along with Kotoko having the wolf as her companion, all seem to point at just how much Kotoko herself has become the very monsters she wanted to destroy. The child-like pink has now become a red stained with blood, or rather a shade of magenta. A mix of red and pink that highlights Kotoko's immature and child-like view of a black and white world, while also noting that Kotoko is not the innocent Little Red Riding Hood she once was anymore—

She is the wolf. She is a Red Riding Hood who has been led on by the wolf's ideals, the prey that has been ensnared and eaten by the wolf at the end of the original Charles Perrault story.

She is the wolf, the monster now.

She is now the sinner she hates so much.

Sources:

https://journals.openedition.org/strenae/6423 This one is the Red Riding Hood clothing analysis!

https://core.ecu.edu/parillek/littleredcinder.pdf "Little Red Riding Hood" Charles Perrault version

https://medium.com/@monsterahelpful/the-symbolism-and-history-behind-the-monstera-leaf-unveiling-its-meaning-11ba828837c2 Monstera Deliciosa symbolism!

https://twitter.com/pug_maniac/status/1735912110423732687 Yamanaka's tweet for Kotoko's birthday flower!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Little_Red_Riding_Hood The Wikipedia page for Little Red Riding Hood! This also contains the heavier themes I was talking about in the beginning, so if you want to find out more, they have a whole section about it here. Trigger Warnings for sexual assault and rape for this Wikipedia page.

https://youtu.be/VrAW8zyoEiY?si=a3p4nb8B1TTza-x_ Translation video for Kotoko's first voice drama, Task.

https://youtu.be/_gTTtS0Fvxk?si=Y1Zwu3XOI_nRHgex HARROW MV

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