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One of the only distinct memories I have from my baptism is the feeling of disappointment. Because I didn't feel anything. I remember getting out the water and my mom asking me how I felt, so I lied and said excited. But really I just wanted to feel the spirit, when I actually felt nothing. Much later on in life I went to the temple and prayed to know if I should go on a mission, and again felt nothing. Ended up sitting in my car in a church parking lot across the street from my apartment (so my roommates wouldn't notice I was home) and bawling my eyes out, begging for a response from God.
I don't expect answers anymore.
Just some old memories resurfacing after going to my cousin's baptism today...
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Growing up mormon with mormon grandparents and great grandparents is like generational trauma on steroids.
Not ONLY is everyone doing a terrible job at raising healthy children because their parents did a terrible job at raising them - they also have a massive corporation breathing down their necks at all times convincing them that if their kids don't turn out "perfect" then they failed as parents and are going to Hell!
Fun times for all!
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Anyone else have these emblazoned on the back of their eyelids? Just me?
These range from the 1980s to the 2010s and yet they were all in my seminary room. I remember the red paint and the gossip mormonads the most.
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I’m jealous that ex-Catholics have cool aesthetics from their former religion that they can make sexy. But you can’t do that with ex-M/ormonism. We’ve got, what? Scratchy walls? Corporate looking suits? Funny baker’s hats?
There is simply no way to make this sexy
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It's amazing to me just how good the Mormon church has been at hiding just how bad they really are from public view. Even the shit that gets spread around is the relatively harmless bullshit. They had a crazy prophet with magic glasses. They believe in god-mandated polygyny. They think everyone who is good enough will get their very own planet after the world ends. They wear magic underpants. Mormon men are all paladins.
Here's one of the ones you hear less often:
See, like many other Christian sects, the Mormons really do believe that the existence of Christ obviates the existence of Judaism. Judaism was just a placeholder until the "real" church could be established by Jesus.
And the Mormons in particular believe, dead ass, that the entire inheritance of Israel has been given to them, because the Jews failed to recognize the Messiah when he was on Earth. They really do. They have this whole system where people are given a "divine revelation" about which of the Tribes of Israel they're a member of (don't worry, they decided that most people belong to the two tribes that are willing to "adopt" people. Only the most specialest boys and girls are members of the original ten).
Let's sum up so far. The Mormons believe that they are the people of Israel, chosen and protected by God. If Jews want to get back in on that party, they can always repent and convert to Mormonism, the one true church to which God gave all the rights and blessings that were originally bestowed on Abraham's house.
But it doesn't stop there!
The Mormons also believe, in all seriousness, that all Indigenous peoples of the Americas are descended from a small group of Jewish people who left just before the fall of Jerusalem (~600 bc iirc). Their entire weird-ass extra bible is a chronicle of those people's history in [unspecific part of America]. At the very beginning of the book, two brothers in the original family turn away from god, so they and all their descendants are cursed with dark skin, so that the good Nephites (who remain "white and delightsome") will always be able to tell themselves apart from the wicked Lamanites.
So, you've got supposedly Jewish people running around the Americas. And the "good" ones are white, and the "bad" ones are brown. Then, ofc, Jesus comes to visit them (I guess supposedly that's part of what he was doing during his dirt nap? Or possibly after he left again, it's not clear), and they all convert to Christianity, which they think is clearly the natural evolution of Judaism. Well, at the end of the book, all of them become wicked, in a kind of weird pseudo-apocalyptic series of events. They are all cursed with dark skin, until such time as they repent for their ancestors sins and return to the gospel.
But of course, Mormons being the good and kind people they are, they want everyone to receive the blessings of God and be brought into the houses of Israel etc etc. And it isn't the fault of those poor little Indigenous children that their distant ancestors turned away from God and became wicked.
So what's the natural answer? Well, Mormons are real big on missionary work, as we all know. But apparently that wasn't enough in this case.
Because the Mormon church has been one of the big players in abducting as many Indigenous children as possible, in order to indoctrinate them into being good Mormons, so that they can turn white again and be blessed. My mother remembers hearing talks about this in the 70s and 80s. The church literally had a "Lamanite Adoption Program," where families in the church were encouraged to get as many Indigenous children as possible away from their families and not let them be reunited until they were fully assimilated and ready to go back and proselytize about how wonderful the church is.
The church leadership literally talked about how wonderful it was to see these children becoming whiter. Actually whiter. Like, saying that when they finally saw them with their families again, it was beautiful how much paler they were.
I'm pretty sure this program has been officially ended, but it doesn't take a genius to speculate about who might be behind the curtains on the movement in the western US to gut the ICWA....
So yeah. Next time someone tries to tell you that the Mormons are just harmless weirdos, please remember that they're an antisemitic cult that advocates for the forced assimilation of Indigenous children to help them escape the cursed brown skin of their ancestors.
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Me: I'm not out at work to everyone cause sometimes I overhear super homophobic things and I don't feel safe.
My mom: I know exactly how you feel because people criticize the Mormon church sometimes at work
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reverse testimony in which i go to church and tell everyone how christianity made my life worse and how i became more evil
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grabs you. hey. listen. one day youll get out of your parents house. you will be able to not go to church on sunday. you will be able to cut and dye your hair any colour you want. you will be able to wear crazy eyeliner and black lipstick or whatever makeup you want. you can swear and be openly queer with your friends and transition and date. YOULL GET OUT OF THERE!!!!!!!
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Guy who is into theology because he wants to build the most toxic, dysfunctional religion on earth. Just the worst most dogshit system imaginable.
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lds lsd acid so good you’ll see the angel maroni
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it certainly tastes how it smells
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mormon doctrine sounds like the mcu to me at this point jesus
not only is there this earth, but there’s a bunch of earths like it and also a bunch of gods (not our gods though, we’re monotheistic christians) and our god actually has a prequel!!! he was just like us and he became a god through holiness and if you* are holy too, someday you could get a spin-off and be your own god of a world!!! oh? who’s that? christopher columbus making a cameo in nephi?!!! have you heard the theory that bigfoot is cain?? and omg we know that we said jesus was dead during his 3 days post crucifixion but look! he’s in our new scripture in the americas then!!! don’t think about it too hard. maybe this should’ve died off after the original movies scriptures but we are just going to keep adding gospel and revelation until we run ourselves into the ground!
*must be a cishet white man
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average conversation between me and my christian gf
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apparently the q club shooter from the shooting in colorado recently is mormon.
and they say that they condemn what he did, but how can the church not expect this to happen after they give speeches like this:
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The mormon church likes to hide behind pretty words and ‘service work’ but I would be shocked, if the shooter’s involvement with the church had nothing to do with him deciding that queer people where better off dead, and that he was the one to do it.
I’m tired of people standing by and watching the church exist and saying ‘oh wow they’re weird’ ‘oh yeah mormonism is a cult’ ‘haha have you seen those mormons?’ without considering the actual impact of the church, and the horrendous things that they condone and cause.
the church has said that this is a tragedy that ‘deeply saddens them’ or some shit. but I’m tired of pretending that the speech above doesn’t explicitly state that this was what they wanted.
I don’t know the insides of Anderson Lee Aldrich’s brain but I can 100% say that his hate, and his ideas came from somewhere. and that because of this, the church has even more queer blood on their hands.
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