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it’s your friendly neighborhood heroes anon! you seem to maybe kinda like the petrellis, so i’ll give you a fun ask about them.

what do you think peter and nathan were like with each other growing up? i’ve seen a bunch of different headcannons from people. in some they’re only like 8 years apart and in others it’s 14. some people think nathan was seen as more of a ‘cool cousin that gets you booze’ type by peter and they never really saw each other much, but when they did it was a fun time. but then in other fics nathan and peter are basically conjoined at the hip even after nathan graduates.

it’s all a big mess, and i don’t know who to believe lol. your thoughts? don’t be afraid to ramble on and on (and on)

Hi!!! I love to talk about the Petrellis haha so here goessss 💖💖

Ooh so first of all, I don’t rly know anything abt the supplemental stuff like the comics lol but not many ppl do anyway lmao

And secondly, in regards to their age gap we can roughly work it out from a few things: s1-s4 take place over roughly ~2 years (for instance Claire is 15-16 in s1 and 18/going to college in s4). Peter was born in December 1979 and is 26 in s1 (stated in canon), Nathan is similarly stated to be 40 in s4 (so ~38 in s1). So I’ve always interpreted them as being 12 years apart. Which yes, is a pretty sizeable age gap and means they wouldn’t have hung out in the same way that siblings of closer ages/in similar life stages would have. Peter and/or Nathan would be away at fancy boarding school, Nathan was in the military for parts of Peter’s childhood.

Their childhood is not super filled in by canon so a lot of this is my personal headcanon/interpretation (be warned for subjectivity/filling in the gaps) but I think their clinging to each other/closeness did start very young regardless of the age gap. Their father was terrifying and emotionally abusive as fuck, controlling to Nathan and at best dismissive and neglectful to Peter, Angela at least loves them in her own way but isn’t much better as a parent and is actively manipulative/gaslighting them all the time lmao and they live in an insane household that forced them together due to this (no wonder they’re Like That).

I think Nathan’s always been protective of Peter and wanted to be there for him/stand in front of him to shield him (though I think he’s later a little resentful about it, similarly Peter sometimes sees Nathan as too much of a puppet to their parents and doesn’t get why he didn’t stand up for himself more/gets frustrated with him, but Nathan was literally moulded from birth to be their obedient little attack dog who’d do whatever they wanted him to. Nathan in s3 saying his evil mind-controlling dad chose his career and even the person he married was picked out for him. There’s a reason that he seems so spineless.) but Nathan’s exception has always been Peter - the one thing he’ll defy his parents for. In s1 he goes along with what he’s meant to do until it comes time for him to pick The Plan or Peter, and he sacrifices himself for Peter. I think Angela never even considered that Nathan would choose Peter over her plan for him, which was the flaw in her machinations lol.

Peter also mentions in s4 that Nathan would rearrange his military leave to be there for Peter’s birthday, etc. i think that they were really happy to see each other every time they got to, it gave them some escape with someone who wasn’t their parents, who understood what it was like to grow up in that family. They’re hugely different people, but in part because Peter was allowed that freedom to be himself and have his own opinions that Nathan simply didn’t have, and again I think Nathan at once kind of resents this and also fiercely wanted that for Peter and is proud of him, despite the way he’s mean to him sometimes lol.

Of course I’d be remiss not to mention the infamous s2 deleted scene, where Nathan says that he and Peter used to steal Arthur’s scotch and go out to the treehouse and he ‘got him drunk for the first time’ up there. Not sure exactly when but this has to have been when Peter was a teenager, and… whew. The way Nathan delivers this with such anguish (‘why did I go back there…’) says so much about how intensely he feels about this whole thing, like, whatever really happened in that treehouse was a LOT and he’s having a LOT of feelings about it. I think when Peter was a teenager their closeness started becoming TOO much and too intense and it scared Nathan a bit as much as he wanted to hold onto Peter. But aaaaanyway….

I just love me some codependent brothers lmao so I’ve probably coloured it more towards that in my own perception. But basically I do think they were close regardless of the age gap!

#peter petrelli #nathan petrelli #arthur petrelli #angela petrelli #listing the whole fam out here #and ofc #petrellicest #:) :) :)#nbc heroes #that's it i just got :) :) :) smilin'#not much to add at all!!!!#all my other thoughts boil down to HCs directly absorbed from Ritual lol

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@judasisgayriot DO NOT SEPARATE THEM!!!!!! 😭😭😭😭😭

Well, then one of us is going to be right, and one of us won’t. In the end, all that really matters is love.

#AAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHH #(i'm fine) (i'm fineee)#peter petrelli #nathan petrelli #petrellicest #nbc heroes

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that's so valid, ignore that mess honestly... i loved Hiro's and Matt's storylines respectively (well - the potential of them, at least, as Reborn was basically 30% potential, 20% whattheabsolutefuck and 50% between ok and absolutely terrible execution), but my god it was a tire fire.

and yeah the Company having a human extremist group makes a ton of sense!! they recruited Karen Sprague's brother, too, for example (Joseph Gallagher was his name) by telling him a powered human killed his sister, and refusing to give him details unless he joined them (at least that's how i remember it, been a hot second). they could've done so much more with that (i also wonder if those people knew the Company was founded and built by powered ppl?? and how they'd feel about that?? / why no one higher up noticed for so long) but alas...

in short: fucking FUCK Ali Larter. and by that I mean don’t even touch her with a ten-foot-pole, jfc.

#not here to talk more about the COMICS' wasted potential though honestly #this is all sad enough already #(i do have one question though........... re: Paulette. i've posted so confidently that she had a scene on the show but. now i'm not so sur #was that not a *deleted* scene??? i mean she was definitely there i remember her talking with Niki but. was that on the show or a deleted #*scene? help?? the wiki is down so i can't quickly check 😭)#nbc heroes #heroes comics

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i'm adding Paulette Hawkins (D.L.'s mother) [who also hated Niki, which seemed really odd at the time, but does make me Hmmm very much thinking about Ali Larter now] to this list... she only had one scene on the show, but she made another appearance in the comics, employed by the Company. she had the same power that Ando would later get - ability amplification - and was, in the first and last story she appeared in, summoned to help ("help") with bagging&tagging a guy who could make plants grow really fast. she killed him by touching him - he grew a small forest, and then turned into a tree himself.

but i don't want to talk about that, i want to talk about what happened right after.

a human extremist group among the Company workers killed her.

that's right.

they reported her in as a casuality of the fight with plant guy, and for all intents and purposes, seemed to get away with that. that extremist group had a bit more of a plot, but nothing huge iirc, and bottom line... yeah. an extremist group (nevermind that they didn't discriminate by color of skin...in the text) killed D.L.'s mother / Micah's grandmother / Niki's mother-in-law. and... it's never brought up on the show. she's never brought up on the show again.

just another dead black character.

and do not FUCKING get me started on black characters on Heroes Reborn.

in short: fucking FUCK Ali Larter. and by that I mean don’t even touch her with a ten-foot-pole, jfc.

#'Heroes is great! it's got a very diverse and international cast!' i tell my friends when i advertise the show to them #knowing that that is technically true #but if i tell them the whole truth they'll likely never watch it #and it does deserve to be watched #but my fucking god...... how did they fail SO BADLY at this.#((rhetorical question but it just won't compute in my head i guess. god))#[and again - do NOT fucking get me started on Reborn]#[which had two (2) new african-american characters on its cast as well as two (2) remorseless killers]#[and yup. matching population. 🙃🙃🙃]#[[and that's not even all of the shit but seriously this should probably be a separate post]]#nbc heroes #simone deveaux #charles deveaux #stephen canfield #paulette hawkins #and i guess because i did go off a lil in the end #heroes reborn

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more Eclipsed opinions (in articles this time)

one article, by Screenrant, contains one take i can't really see / don't agree with, and one i think is close to spot on:

the article criticizes refers to "a truncated storyline and clunky writing" in S2, and claims all subsequent seasons suffered from the lack of character development and dropped plotlines during that time. this..... i don't really agree with :'D like, how much did S2 really affect S3 and S4? not sure that holds too much water.

i really like the article's take on Reborn, however: they mainly name the terrible pacing of Reborn as the cause of it not hitting with the audience. too little time before the big stakes resulted in it feeling a lot less grounded than the original, is their opinion. and i can absolutely see where they're coming from!

in my opinion, Reborn had much bigger problems than that, but that doesn't make this take untrue or not refreshing to hear!

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another article, by Inverse, has a very different, but very intriguing approach:

it's enthusiastic, i appreciate that 🥺

the idea here is that Heroes aired in a time without superhero stories that were independent of DC and Marvel, and today, that kind of thing is much more established (the success of shows like The Boys and The Umbrella Academy is cited). therefore, the show might be much better received now - hence the tagline: The world may finally be ready for more Heroes.

further, it also cites that the OG Heroes show used to run parallel to the popular show Lost, which might've cost it some fame as well. not sure how true that is (i wasn't there :'D), but i'll take any evidence a fresh start could do better / equally well today!

#nbc heroes #heroes reborn #heroes eclipsed #yes i will keep up with the press coverage #why do you ask

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so we all know now for sure (like there was doubt left.. but hey) that this was 100% made up by the person writing the article; information is consistently incorrect (NBC being behind it, no showrunners returning).

but i swear, if the protagonist of Eclipsed works in IT and/or is named Miguel, part of me will still cheer and clap

GOOD NEWS EVERYONE, BEING SAD IS CANCELLED FOREVER

#IMSORRY #i don't understand myself #but i got attached to Miguel for a hot minute there :((#:'D #[Ignore Me]#heroes eclipsed

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Claude and water maybe?? Also hi!! :)

hii! :D

and noted! ^^

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heroes-trash · 19 days

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soooo... let's make official! my new big thing (TM) in regards to aesthetics will be elements!!

🔥🌊🌪🪨

if anyone has any prompts - any character they think might fit any specific element (going with just the classic four, for now) - prompt me! if you can't decide, just suggest multiple, i will probably wind up making multiples of many chars anyway. looking forward to hearing all your suggestions!! ^^

#me: i really should work down my prompt list and plans.... there's stuff from 3+ years ago there #also me: does anyone has any more aest prompts for me 👉👈🥺#ahem. anyway.#(i will work through those as well i SWEAR)

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heroes-trash · 20 days

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reading through twitter reactions to the Heroes: Eclipsed announcement

so far i've got:

people who are excited because they loved the OG show

every variety of "the show sucked after S1, please don't" (sometimes with "after S2")

several "Reborn sucked, this can't be good"

[more moderate versions of the above two takes]

several different "don't" gifs

a few very hateful comments about the show in its entirety

people rooting for it not to fail

people rooting for it not to fail (but without much hope)

a few calls for Hiro to come back

a call for Hiro to come back, spelling him "Hero Nakamura" - which i'm going to give the benefit of the doubt and assume was intentional

pleas for the OG cast to return

a nasty comment about the OG actors maybe coming back because they careers aren't doing too hot (big oof)

a plea that no matter what, Sylar needs to stay away

a plea for Sylar to return (but spelling him "Syler"....)

one Milo thirst tweet ("if we don't get to see his thighs i don't want it")

some calling for Reborn to be retconned

comments about preferring other shows (like someone asked??)

a few eclipse jokes (including several that criticized the announcement timing - it should've been DURING the eclipse)

one comment joking that we must be in the Twilight Zone, because this announcement is years late - the person seems to genuinely believe this is about Reborn

multiple people convinced that only one season ever aired. either they also think this is about Reborn, or they are doing the "everything was shit after S1" take on a NEXT-LEVEL straight-faced joke basis... i genuinely can't figure it out??

one person joking, quote: "The writers guild has a chance to do the funniest thing ever", who i want to personally punch in the face

#ahem.#heroes eclipsed #some of these were funny tho #[and 'Syler' made me ugly laugh ngl]#across three posts there's more than 800 comments btw! which is Something

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heroes-trash · 20 days

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valid! i am also worried that it won't be very good, but frankly, as long as it isn't WORSE than Reborn, i'll take it.

but yeah, no one of the cast is returning (for more than cameos anyway), or at least i very much do not expect it.

GOOD NEWS EVERYONE, BEING SAD IS CANCELLED FOREVER

#heroes eclipse #i just want it anyway you know??? more of that WORLD #always more

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