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PART II

+chapter 22 analysis

(and don’t worry you don’t need to read anything else to understand part II:D)

good humans, greetings:) since latest chapter was translated, as promised here’s the part II of my previous post. i listened to Just a Ride by Rishloo on the loop while writing this and i completely recommend it! please feel free to comment and give me feedback, it always broadens my horizons to interact with you people :D first, let’s talk about the latest chapter, which i’m glad i waited for. such a short chapter wears quite the weight.

if i were to dissect chapter 22, there would be three main parts

1-hibino and yamato

hibino not letting yamato kiss him made me quite happy for the guy, since self respect somehow doesn’t seem to exist in many of the other works in the same genre. and also, him calling yamato uncool wasn’t really uncalled for considering the situation. i actually didn’t think much of it until the same thought was repeated two more times, then it became a full-on attack lmao. (i think jackverglas also pointed this out!) mostly to show yuiji finding that uncoolness likable and not disappointing like hibino seems to believe it is. the panel below might be the most obvious example of that, the way yamato says hibino isn’t happy with yamato’s true self and answering “it’s fine” when nacchan asks if that’s actually okay with him seemed truly heartbreaking to me. someone that could make you happy, nacchan said. that’s someone who likes you as you are and in this situation, hibino sadly doesn’t fit the criteria.

but rather than that the main purpose behind the first couple of pages were to create conflict. yamato, who’s in love with the idea of love in general is now desperate to the point he falls into the pit of so called modern day romance. he’s quickly trying to separate his romantic feelings from yuiji, forcefully trying to switch them onto somebody else, anybody else but yuiji to be exact. yamato’s side of the story is thus concluded and the responsibility for their relationship seems to fall on yuiji for now. while yuiji figures himself out, his ticking time with yamato should also be one of the reasons that makes him move. after all conflict itself is created to make progress. where there are problems, there are also changes.

2- nacchan and yamato

here’s nacchan being an absolute angel:

this time nacchan’s feelings for yamato seemed to lose their control over her. she was able to properly support him as a friend and didn’t seem disheartened by the news. maybe her romantic feelings toward him are slowly withering but of course that’s far from certain considering her personality. nacchan is nice to the point of naivety at times. right now, she knows the whole situation the best. from yamato’s feelings towards yuiji to why he decided to work things out with hibino, she sees clear as day that yamato’s going through a lot. nacchan seems to support yamato’s idea, probably thinking he doesn’t really have a chance with yuiji. so that could also be why nacchan’s romantic feelings doesn’t seem so obvious, since she’s concerned with yamato’s issues before all. she’s the type to put others before herself after all, but still isn’t yuiji supposed to be the same when it comes to yamato?

then, for an example here’s how different yuiji and nacchan’s reactions are to the ‘good news’ yamato had to offer. if nacchan is the one who’s in love with yamato why do their reactions seem to be so drastically different in the opposite way around?

these pictures kinda speak for themselves so i’m shutting my trap and leaving it up to your interpretations lmao

3- mayu and yuiji

the last part’s purpose was to close the door to yuiji’s past relationship with mayu and to open a new one heading to his future. their relationship is officially concluded for sure this time, as them being friends (which deserves an enthusiastic yes. yes to a healthy relationship!)

in the panel above, mayu talks about something yuiji has been worrying about for a while. she adresses an issue that maybe happened a while ago, and maybe it wasn’t talked about after their arc. but it’s an issue that exists regardless. in yuiji’s mind, they didn’t have a clean break-up at all, did they? when they were breaking up, the sentence that hit me the most was “i’m slowly hating the idea of love itself”. a way of thinking that’s simply enough to make one avoid romance in general, especially for a person like yuiji. this concern of his was never addressed after his arc with mayu (until now) but that doesn’t mean it ceased to exist. it simply wasn’t too obvious since yuiji’s focus was mostly on yamato’s hassles and to be fair, it’s been a while since we last witnessed his thoughts at all. this is why i loved how with mayu’s reappearance, those old books were reopened. a tiny detail maybe, but it made the whole story come together while also giving it a new life. her advice is also quite meaningful within itself. the best way to solve a problem is to directly go to the cause of it, but in this case, the cause, mayu came to him. not to make everything harder but to actually help him solve his inner issues that he had after their relationship. in that regard, her words hold the most power. and what she chose to say was that every person is different and thus every relationship also differentiate from one another. one bad experience doesn’t mean shit if in the end, he manages to find the person who’s right for him. but who is this ‘right person’ guy and do we know him?

so um, well we’ve been played in this part... i’m sure there are some posts as to what has been said here, i avoided those to come up with an opinion of my own. but still, there’s no clear-cut idea that comes to mind.

there are 3 criteria she stated

1-like someone who you can really like

2-you think things through to the point you over analyze so loving you is a bit hard (find someone who can love that side of you)

3-since you think things through, ......... i hope you can find someone like this

it’s most probable that she didn’t randomly mention something that didn’t have anything to do with her previous statements and thus those sentences play an important role. to explain where i’m coming from i’ll first focus on the first two conditions. the thing is, both of them are pretty straightforward about pointing to yamato. “like someone who you can really like” gives me flashbacks to the 8495 “i like you” lines we’ve got in the first 22 chapters. yuiji quite clearly enjoys yamato’s presence, his existence eases his mind and the way he’s open about his feelings makes yamato unproblematic for yuiji even though he’s basically ‘problems’ with legs and an ability to speak. “you tend to over analyze so loving you can be a bit hard” not much to say about this when that over analyzing part of yuiji is what yamato needed the most. to be fair, considering yamato likes calm and quiet types, there doesn’t seem to be one thing that he actually dislikes about yuiji’s personality. can’t say the same about his face though lmao. not the small and cute type at all...

for plot purposes the third condition is probably also related to yamato, and it should be more straightforward to the point it had to be concealed for now. it either a. makes yuiji understand his feelings for yamato or b. makes yuiji want to do something about his feelings that he’s already aware of and both of them results in yuiji finally starting to move. after all, while the first part of chapter 22 was to create conflict, the last part is to make progress using that conflict.

as for what she actually said, a lot of theories could be formed but i feel like whatever i say would be quite baseless no matter how hard i try. still, i’m pretty sure that’s what people expect to see the most so let me try my best for you guys. i cannot physically come up with more than two theories though... be aware that i’m diving into this blind and with no previous planning whatsoever so expect some bullshit lol

so for this one to actually work we need to make a lot of assumptions. the biggest one being, “yuiji isn’t sure about his feelings yet but he noticed the slight changes in yamato.” then we could make it work just barely. what mayu basically said was “since you think things through you should like someone who you really like” and “i really think you think things through. that’s why ..... i hope you can meet someone like that.” he should find someone who he really likes because he thinks things through, so shouldn’t he also find someone who really likes him for the same reason. something along the lines of “since you’re this way, you need someone who really likes you as well. i hope you can find someone like that.”

as to how i reached this conclusion, as i said the sentence should be an obvious hint at yamato in my opinion. if we make the assumption of yuiji being aware of yamato’s feelings, their conversation as a whole leads them to yamato. the guy who yuiji really likes, the guy that accepts him and really likes him as well. also hearing this from mayu plays quite an important role. it’s something big enough to make yuiji, who already has feelings for the guy, think a relationship with yamato is possible. knowing the way yuiji is, i’d say someone liking him is enough for him to consider that person as a love interest. he isn’t a hopeless romantic like yamato after all. that person being a male complicates things for sure, but with yamato’s existance around him the idea of two guys being in love probably doesn’t seem so unordinary to him anymore. that would also explain why that line was censored by the school bell. since it would directly hint at yamato’s feelings being known to yuiji. which is an info that should be confidential at this point????? i’m definitely spouting nonsense am i not lmao. i could probably point out around 7 things that doesn’t really make sense but i’ll just ignore my inner turmoil and focus on the positive for once in my life

so i do think yuiji knowing about yamato’s feelings is quite possible. i can’t really imagine him ever making a move without being sure of the other sides feelings towards him as of yet, or even noticing his own feelings to be exact. also with the way things are, yamato doesn’t seem to be the one who makes the final move. this is why i thought this theory (barely) made sense. with mayu as well, yuiji’s main focus was the feelings being mutual. “she liked me and i liked her so we just casually started going out.” the pronoun changing of course makes things more complicated but in the end of the day it doesn’t mean shit. what stops it from being “he liked me and i liked him so we just casually started going out.”?

and this theory completely depends on the translation lol. after mayu said [redacted] she also added “i’m not in a position to say this. given how you thought our relationship became a hassle”. when i first saw that blank space this was the first thing that came to my mind: “someone who you really like as a friend before a lover, i hope you find someone like that.” as i stated before, this is also something that directly points at yamato, as the close friend figure who yuiji feels really comfortable around. but a friend figure who could also develop feelings for him. and also, it would explain why mayu thought it wasn’t her place to say what she said. because even though they were friends first, their relationship still didn’t work out. but it wasn’t only yuiji’s fault, she continues, it was her fault too. that could be to reassure yuiji, after all they were friends too, maybe just not as close as they thought they were.

this is kind of a reach as well. she’s probably saying “it isn’t my place to say” purely because they’re ex-lovers but hey i’m absolutely stuck and i had two clues in mind lmao. and that was me considering the bell to not go on for too long (this isn’t a sports anime where they fly in air while scoring and somehow have a monologue for a whole episode lol) so my logic said she could only squeeze in a single sentence that was an absolute headshot. if i somehow manage to regain my dead braincells, i’ll be sure to come up with something else that actually makes sense:D

YUIJI

“i wish i were a guy. then yamato could fall for me.” after a pause, with such a sad expression too, yuiji refuses. most times, things that aren’t said mean much more than the ones that are. what kind of sentence fills that silence, i keep asking myself. is it him, thinking it’s inconsiderate to talk in such a way after all yamato went through? did the possibility of yamato actually having feelings for him strike after nacchan pointed it out?

or is it because he himself is now questioning what he’s feeling for a guy friend, that he refuses after a pause?

for a while there’s been one thing i was sure of and one that i wasn’t so certain about. i’m almost sure yuiji likes yamato and i wasn’t certain if he knew this himself. as i mentioned before, i was suspicious of him already noticing his feelings when in chapter 21, his general reaction to the whole confession was just out of the ordinary and the behavior he’s shown afterwards is way touchier than the usual though i still think i’m over analyzing that part lol. the fact that he’s got a whole conversation in this chapter to make him start moving, yamato deciding to give hibino a chance for sure and us not seeing yuiji’s thoughts at all for a while now only seem to support the fact that he knows. and also, unless mikeda causes a major shitshow that suddenly enlightens yamato to go and confess, that responsibility also seems to fall on yuiji’s shoulders as of now. that guy doesn’t seem like the type to confess two minutes after he figures out his feelings though. at this point i think he knows that his feelings seem to be different from before but he just isn’t sure about what he should do about it.

being interested in both genders, especially in a more conservative country usually leads up to a heterosexual lifestyle. many, including me, chooses the easier way out. when you can lead a so called ‘normal’ life where you’re accepted by the ones that are around you, choosing otherwise is just a hassle. but then again the heart wants what it wants. acceptance doesn’t guarantee happiness but a relationship with love doesn’t guarantee it either, at that point you measure your circumstances and decide for yourself. and that’s what i think is going through yuiji’s mind right now. yuiji seems to be interested in what makes a person rather than their gender. he wasn’t really able to differentiate between the two genders from way before, treating both women and men the same, which mayu didn’t like. he’s someone who questions if a straight guy could accept dating another guy (which means that isn’t exactly a straight guy lmao). just the prejudice causing him to accept that as a possibility while still wanting to remain ‘straight’.

i think yuiji knows a lot more than we think he does. that’s what i’ll stick with.

and as for the less serious part of this post

let me over analyze to my heart’s content lmao

here’s yuiji’s reactions to yamato being yamato over the chapters. in the first occurrence he’s simply surprised, at this point he isn’t blushing and only is taken aback a bit. while in the second stiuation he’s blushing a little but he’s still uncomfortable and leans back trying to get away. as for the last one, rather than being taken aback and changing his postion, he instinctively touches his cheek while blushing. more than uncomfortable he seems surprised even though yamato’s action is way more daring than before.

here’s yuiji single-handedly defeating inner homophobia, not having very straight thoughts, going thorough quite the excessive feelings that make him want to take revenge in yamato’s place and deciding to go watch gay porn the day he notices the existence of a gay guy for reasons unknown... what a guy lol

and so that concludes it, this post had too broad of a topic and to not make it too long a lot of things were cut (it clearly didn’t work) next time i’ll be more specific with my themes lmao

thank you so much for reading this far, take good care of yourselves and as always feel free to reach out to me if you have any questions! love you all :)!

#koimonogatari #tagura tohru #my poor brain isn’t big enough for this #and my poor hands are also hurting #but i’m finally done #well at least i’ll have it easy with english essays in the future lmao #i hope i didn’t just state the obvious :((( that always scares me #oh and #sorry for being so late:/#life lol #<33

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helpimstuckhere · 4 years

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enjoy, guys!

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/11Vis7b9AGLY6BSQx8qdeNLr8k05SpLCo?usp=sharing

#tagura tohru #koimonogatari #i love you guys #thank you #i’m out of words lmao #i’m so thankful::

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helpimstuckhere · 4 years

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Hi, koi community! The skiing fic is complete. A complete disaster, but it's posted.

(Might change the fic title, since it referred to a scene that no longer exists. It makes 0 sense now.)

Coded a receipt on ao3, it looks like this on laptop, but reading it on phone may screw up the formatting:

Link: https://archiveofourown.org/works/26727961?view_full_work=true

#let’s appreciate cere’s coding skills people #did i forget to compliment you on any platform?#i don’t think so #????#loved loved loved it #thank you so much #koimonogatari #tagura tohru #deadcereus

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helpimstuckhere · 4 years

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Taking Koimonogatari fic requests

Hello, my favorite koimunnity!

You can request whatever you want, as many times as you want—but I’ll do whatever I want. I’m a very whimsical person, and will feel zero (0) guilt if I reject a prompt.

However, chances are very good that I’ll write at least 3 sentences each for most of the prompts, or more.

As a general rule of thumb, the more specific & entertaining your prompt is, the more interested I become. (Exceptions are if it requires extensive research.)

I will applaud your courage if you ask for a nsfw prompt. Don’t feel embarrassed; it’s all the same to me. I’m an aroace with friends who think it’s a good idea to ask me for advice—I won’t bat an eye at whatever you ask. It’s good practice to write something unknown to me. No promises on quality / accuracy / writing it, so it’s up to you.

If you don’t know what to request, you can pick a character/ship + a prompt from any of these 3 posts (the ships can be platonic/romantic/etc):

- https://normal-horoscopes.tumblr.com/post/177385113230/the-signs-and-empire - https://normal-horoscopes.tumblr.com/post/173064417630/the-whispering-signs - https://normal-horoscopes.tumblr.com/post/167052089945/the-signs-and-frontier

I’ll take prompts from my ask box, or comments on this post. You can go on or off anon, I don’t mind either way.

If I don’t receive any prompts, I’ll merrily delete this post without remorse. ^_^

#still doing god’s work #cere you’re feeding us too much these days #i’m about to become greedy you know #thank you<33 #koimonogatari #tagura tohru

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helpimstuckhere · 4 years

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so i decided to post part II after reading the latest chapter, since it surely will explain hibino and yamato’s relationship in further detail. i’ve heard there’s a tiny forshadowing for us too;)

but to pass time, here is some stuff i’ve found sweet while i was rereading for part I and II

SEKI&YUIJI

seki the school heartthrob being vulnerable to yuiji’s poisonous tounge is my kink

HOLDING HANDS

*drops unironical uwus*

i blame the purity this single panel holds

BOYFRIEND* BUT OK

this...

MOMMA HASEGAWA&SAKURA

they do be presidents of the love and support yamaji club lmao

AHMMMM

my guy i don’t think you needed to choke him to feed him but go off i guess

YUIJI...

*sees that chuckle*

*nervous laughter*

haha i’m in danger

(put that punch for pure satisfaction purposes, i hate violence with the exception of that single panel lmao)

#koimonogatari #tagura tohru #love stories #explain to me #why he’s being #*that*#pretty for plz #the hasegawa family is filled with icons #a lot of nacchan and akiyama moments were #cut in the process of elimination #i basically screenshoted every panel they were in #so understandable i guess

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helpimstuckhere · 4 years

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PART I

(apparently lmao i didn’t expect this to be as long as it became)

hello there human beings with good taste, been a while. i still wanna pour out content but i have no clue about what i can post lol plz interact with me i’m not creative. but leaving that aside for now

shall we start?

first off

yamato’s feelings

with his previous love interests yamato was not in complete control, but he felt safe with the amount he had. he couldn’t choose who he liked but he knew when and how to stop if he wanted. as a kid he was so scared of being found out by the school that he constantly hid his face behind long bangs. but yamato felt safe enough to tell nacchan, a stranger at the time, that he liked his best friend. making me think that he was more concerned about being found out than his relationship with mikeda. it was an amount he could control. an amount he was able to accept and move on. but since i want to focus on what we have in hand and that’s basically all of it when it comes to junior high years, i’ll stop here hand focus on kyousuke.

yamato’s feelings for kyousuke were simple. an unrequited love or a crush, if you will. the main reason behind his interest in kyousuke was, as he stated, him being open-minded. seeing love as love, rather it be between two man or a man and a woman. at the time, and even now that is what yamato needs to hear the most after all. that his feeling are valid and that what he feels is normal.

but other than kyosuke’s face and open-mindedness, he isn’t yamato’s type at all. for yamato, kyousuke is someone he likes to watch. he hates that he doesn’t do anything about it, but that’s the mechanism he created to protect himself. yamato did say his like was similar to kyousuke’s interest in models and idols. liking a person from afar and giving up when even the tiniest problem appears. what kyousuke said to yuiji afterwards explains it pretty well. if it was real love, it wouldn’t be that easy. after that yuiji wonders if it is the same for yamato. (smooth foreshadowing lol) that brings us to how yamato feels towards yuiji.

yamato loves until it starts hurting too much. when he likes someone, it isn’t to the point where he puts the other before him, at least from what we’ve seen. his focus is still on his own troubles and feelings. he knows his limits, he knows when to stop. he knows how to stop.

it isn’t like that with yuiji though, is it?

after all, he was able to tell nacchan, who he called shibata-san at the time, about his crush on mikeda. but right now forget telling her, who he trusts, he wouldn’t even dare accept the fact that he likes someone, let alone yuiji. not just in front of sakura but also within himself. yamato, who just wants to love normally, forces himself to be with hibino. crushing all his previous words and ignoring his own feeings and personality. whenever yuiji does something that would give yamato happiness if it were to happen in his previous relationships -like hugs and affection in general-, he feels despair. as hibino stated, he is more scared of yuiji figuring out his feelings and drifting apart than the school learning about him being gay.

i’d say yamato’s feelings slowly progressed from the start. but the breaking point that made yamato develop stronger emotions for yuiji, in my opinion, was the fight with d*i. until that point yuiji supported yamato while thinking he wasn’t able to relate to him. he believed the best he could do was to stay by his side and act like normal. landing his ear whenever yamato needed to be heard. but while punching d*i what yamato felt, he felt. he gives yamato the thing he needs the most, acceptance. after all a little hint of the same reason was enough to make yamato fall for kyousuke.

this is where hope comes in. on those swings, yamato silently thinking about yuiji’s happiness has roots he tries to bury as deep as possible, so he doesn’t have to face them. worry for the other party’s future. something he never felt for kyousuke, who he knew he had no chance with. he subconsciously already thinks there is a possibility. that maybe, just maybe if he confessed... he ignores that thought and goes further. even if they were in a relationship, what about yuiji’s future? establishing that he has a chance with yuiji, the possibility is already engraved in his mind. acceptence is easy to misunderstand, thinking there is even a tiny chance and getting hopeful is what turnes like into love. a stage that yamato maybe already reached, but cannot accept.

thus, he runs to hibino, or anyone for that matter. if he can’t stop these feelings from growing as he always does, he will make someone else stop them for him.

but what about yuiji?

yuiji’s feelings

in an ideal relationship yuiji needs communication. he expects the other party to explain their problems to be able to solve them. he doesn’t ask more than twice, and doesn’t like to be nosy. on the other hand mayu wants to be told that she is loved, she wants to be taken care of and she needs affection. but these are expectations. she doesn’t say these things until it’s too late for them to fix their relationship. just like yuiji.

the problem between the two is caused by the both of them and not just yuiji, even though he blames himsef throughout the whole thing. his brain doesn’t process mayu’s thoughts and concerns properly. and even when he’s explained at a later point, the love that would normally help him relate to her is now gone. he doesn’t understand what he is supposed to feel and even when she asks him, he isn’t even able to tell her he likes her until the very end.

this is going to be my interpretation from my own experiences so here we go. the way yuiji processes things is pretty easy to understand by the other party. he is okay with just about everything and will want to keep the relationship going as long as the other person is someone important to him. whenever something goes wrong, the moment he notices he will take responsibility so he can keep things as they are. he likes the normal and feels comfortable with the usual. even if he doesn’t agree with mayu’s opinions, and even if he finds the situation annoying, he will give in and try his best to fix it. he will do this while still speaking his mind, both to feel more like himself and because he thinks that it’s the proper way. but inside, he will also wish for the relationship to end, while hating what he’s doing. that’s because this is pretty out of character for yuiji, he doesn’t prefer himself to act that way. he wants to keep things as they are but at the same time he doesn’t want to be relied on to solve everything, he doesn’t like to think that if he says the wrong thing, the other party will end up leaving him. this makes him feel unimportant and plays into the guilt factor as well. yuiji ends up thinking he is the one at fault since the other person finds one simple reason enough to leave him.

the problem is the expectations that came with a romantic relationship. the first days of love aren’t forever, it gradually vanishes and friendship fills the void it leaves behind. what keeps the relationship going is that friendship and some affection shown by both of the partners. at the end of their time together, what mayu expected of him was genuine affection. but yuiji is a guy who is pretty true to himself. he won’t choose to lie to make the other party happy and try to be truthful, because that’s what he wants from the other as well. someone who is in love, like mayu in that situation, won’t have that kind of clear view on things. this kind of clarity will feel offensive, even. when she feels so complicated, he is able think with a calm mind, come up with reasonable explanations. but mayu doesn’t want reasoning, she wants love, which yuiji doesn’t have anymore. thus the relationship is doomed to end from the start.

it’s a different situation when it comes to yamato.

yuiji hates problems.

he hates that when everything can be fine, it isn’t. that’s the reason behind his unwillingness to be involved with yamato, but in later stages it also causes yuiji to be so involved that he feels nosy. if the problem doesn’t disappear by itself, he is willing to make it disappear. a seemingly blunt act but he does think in a complex manner. this is going to be reaching, maybe. but i wanted to include yamato, yuiji and kyousuke’s sleepover in the picture above for that reason. why am i sleeping between the two, was a question even yamato asked himself. at that time he still wasn’t clear about his feeings towards kyousuke. still, think about the yuiji that thought he would beat yamato up if he were to make a move on his best friend. the same yuiji is now willing to not just sleep next to yamato, but also let the said best friend do the same thing too. that’s yuiji’s way of showing his acceptance and trust, in my opinion. that’s the way he decides to solve things. i trust you, and i care for you. follow my example and do the same. the problem for yuiji isn’t the fact that people are prejudiced, it’s yamato’s lack of self love. he doesn’t expect the whole world to suddenly not be homophobic. rather he wants yamato to accept himself, because yuiji already did that.

up until this point, his behavior is within the limitations of a normal friendship. he isn’t the type to show, but he cares a lot. he is picky with the people around him and when he likes someone he gives his all. but there are times where he goes overboard when it comes to yamato. when kyousuke got a girlfriend, yuiji is happy for him, but a moment later he focuses on how yamato would feel about the situation immediately. when things aren’t going well with mayu, his phone keeps ringing and buzzing. he is still with yamato, helping him as much as possible even though he finds going to sakura’s unreasonable. when he punches d*i, no one thinks it is possible for him to do so. even himself. but in the end he beats d*i up either way.

he feels at ease with yamato because when he’s with him, yuiji’s own problems doesn’t matter. yamato’s troubles are at first, a coping mechanism for him. it helps yuiji get away from his own reality, and be able to have a nice time with a friend that he feels comfortable with. concerning himself with yamato’s problems so he doesn’t have to face his own. but with time, yamato’s issues become his as well. he absorbs those feelings. and unlike his relationship with mayu, he is able to relate to him to some degree. he takes yamato’s feelings seriously from the start like he should’ve done with mayu, but couldn’t. this is what makes him want to be there for yamato but feeling forced to do so when it’s mayu on the other side.

romantically, what i assume about yuiji’s feelings would be more like a headcanon so i thought to share it afterwards. all i can say is before yamato sat on that table with yuiji, he had no idea about how he felt towards him. that doesn’t mean he started liking him then and there. it was just at that point that he realized. in their situation, especially for a ‘straight’ guy like yuiji, it’s even harder for him to understand what he feels. yamato didn’t realize his emotions before because he thought having feelings for yuiji wasn’t possible. it’s even less possible in yuiji’s mind. but that said, this is true if we are to assume he even has feelings for yamato. in the end the route the manga will take depends on future situations. most likely, while yamato learns to love himself, yuiji will find the passion and love he lost within yamato as well.

that is the end of part I folks. i have a couple more pictures that i’ve prepared previously to add this post but it took waaay too long and i don’t really want to bore anyone. i also have some comic relief posts and a very wishfully thought out theory about yuiji’s feelings towards yamato. i’ll share them afterwards.

thank you so much for reading, and i wish you a great day. see you on part II! (hopefully lol)

#koimonogatari #tagura tohru #lol hii hello again #this took a while to write #took even longer the prepare #but i had fun writing:)#still tiring though lol #also i keep saying this but #second language guys:(((#forgive me if it’s hard to understand #i blame youtubers lmao

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helpimstuckhere · 4 years

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well now that the whole essay thing is out of the way say hello to best girl

🤍momma hasegawa🤍

#koimonogatari #tagura tohru #and btw where is yuiji’s dad lmao #i swear if he left these two behind #i’m starting a war #who in their right mind #leaves momma hasegawa and yuiji

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helpimstuckhere · 4 years

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hello good humans, just gonna ramble about koimonogatari and answer questions that literally no one asked lmao

when i start writing i don’t stop until i say everything on my mind so this will probably take long (it did lol). i’m mostly writing this to gather my thoughts and it was first meant as a draft but i thought, even if i’m wrong why not just share it?

starting with, what do i think the future chapters will hold for us

well, the festival has been hyped for a while now. basically all yamato’s past and future love interests are going to be there the first one being:

mikeda

in chapter 18, when yuiji asked if any of yamato’s friends would be joining the festival, yamato’s answer was that he was not in contact with them anymore.

in chapter 21, mikeda said he hated the nasty type, most probably he was also referring to yamato. but at the time, he said this directly about a confession he got which he responded harshly to. this made me think the situation with yamato wasn’t a friendly feud but maybe a romantic one and i felt that, it pointed to yamato being rejected in a rather harsh manner too.

but i don’t really think yamato confessed to him? it seems out of character and his reactions and thoughts didn’t really connect with that kind of scenerio in my opinion. but at the same time looking at how stressed he is about his situation with yuiji, it could also indicate a past trauma if interpreted that way too. well, if mikeda knows he’s gay, i don’t think he outed yamato though. if he did, it wouldn’t make sense for nacchan to not mention it to yuiji in chapter 14, while talking about their meeting with yamato. also we really don’t need another fuckface like d** i’d like to think the reason isn’t homophobia.

in chapter 14, it was mentioned that mikeda had someone he liked, which didn’t seem to work out since he was confessed to in chapter 21. well that would be an unnecessary addition if it weren’t connected to his problem with yamato, is what i thought at least. this is purely a guess but i don’t think he thinks yamato is nasty because he’s gay.

what i’m saying is that, i would guess there’s been a dispute between yamato and mikeda, and the situation involves the person mikeda likes. yamato’s actions that seem nasty to mikeda might also involve that person? again, purely speculation.

nacchan

well, she isn’t a love interest for yamato for obvious reasons but she is interested in him after all. in chapter 19 some girls came up to her and said they would hep her have the same schedule as yamato, which i think will play a role in the festival. yamato won’t have a chance to be alone and when an actual problem arises, nacchan will be there and will play a key role.

now what problem could include them both? who is nacchan’s and yamato’s common ex love interest? that’s mikeda. a problem that involves the both of them can be easily caused by him. after all, mikeda isn’t just going to go there to love and support yamato from the looks of it.

kyousuke

lmao he’s also there but that sweet moron’s not the one for drama now is he?

hibino

well, the festival is his deadline with yamato. to be honest, at this point, did yamato even kiss him at the end of chapter 21? and even if he did, is hibino okay with being used in that way? will he just blush and go or act like a reasonable human being and get out of that toxic situation? i hope to see the latter for his own good, but the kiss was hibino’s offer to reconsider the situation. if it actually happens hibino won’t just say “now that i’m kissed i’m leaving” lol.

on another note i can’t really fit hibino into the festival situation in my head. so i’d say either he gets his kiss and the situation is left to be resolved after the festival OR yamato stops right before kissing him and the situation is resolved then and there. those options seem the most probable to me. there is the possibility of him being involved in the festival also but at that point everything would just clash. i’m not sure if that scenario is preferable, it could complicate things too much if not connected properly. tagura tohru can hadle it though.

hibino was created for a reason and more than yamato, i think that reason is yuiji. considering tagura tohru’s other work, all the tiny details (especially in the last chapters.) and bl in general, koimonogatari will most probably end with yamato and yuiji together. but the manga takes more of a realistic approach in life. yuiji won’t just decide that he is in love with a guy because he’s the other main character.

he needs more to understand his own feelings towards yamato (if he has any, i’ll come to that as well) and develop those feelings. jealousy is a pretty strong factor that could play a role into this. hibino also knows yamato’s feelings toward him and is aware of him. with hibino’s confidence, maybe he would be more daring with yamato in front of yuiji or maybe at one point they would interact somehow. but i think he will play a large role in yuiji’s acknowledgment about his own feelings.

i like hibino and the situation yamato and he created for themselves is extremely toxic for both of them. i’d hate to see yamato’s idea of love shattering like this and hate to see hibino used, just because he isn’t yuiji and a random guy who happened to have an interest in yamato.

and last but not least,

yuiji

the last chapter,

this happened.

in any other bl manga, this would usually mean yuiji is now starting to develop feelings for yamato or he already has unrealized feelings for him. with koimonogatari though, it could also be yuiji being considerate of yamato’s situation. though i don’t see why he would respond in a sad manner, since what yamato said was actually good for him.

when he thought it was a girl that confessed to him, he had little to no reaction. that’s yuiji in general for you. he laughs, says something witty or notices a detail that wasn’t obviously pointed at. but this time his reaction was natural, without much thought behind it. he was caught of guard by something and was speechless for a while. was it another gay guy’s existance in their school, was it someone being able to tell yamato is indeed gay, or was it that yamato could actually develop feelings for the person that confessed to him, since it wasn’t a girl that confessed, it’s up to your interpretation.

you could say he’s just surprised, but that’s his first reaction in the first panel. it’s after a while that he says, “i see.” at that point what yuiji’s thinking could be all the things i’ve stated above or something that didn’t even come to my mind just yet. well, take this information at your own risk but he was way touchier afterwards i’m just sayingkdjfjksd

for me personally, i’m pretty sure in yuiji’s mind, yamato is a close friend. but even he doesn’t get what’s going on in the depths of his heart.

mikeda, in my opinion, will surely be a turning point in their relationship. their situations are similar (considering they are both yamato’s friends that he had feelings for) and they’re about to meet after all. he is also a plot device that could affect the way yuiji thinks and help him understand the differences between two situations.

there’s also nacchan, who is now aware of yamato’s feelings towards yuiji and in chapter 19, they really did strengthen their bond. considering that, i’d guess that nacchan will also play a key role while yuiji figures himself out. especially when yuiji figures out yamato’s feelings as he should, since he is highly perceptive.

oh also also, why do i feel like akiyama (well he kinda is on the lookout) and nacchan (and she deserves the world so) could be a thing lmaodjkajsk well they will also meet for the first time in the festival, probably (that’s not how parentheses work at alldjwkdjkw)

so in general

the festival is gonna be one hell of a shitshow lol.