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– Keep her safe, okay?

– On my life.

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Haha true tho..

Lol why is this so funny. They're full of shit

Kotallo: I belong with the chief and with the tribe

*5 secs later*

Kotallo: Chief, you good right? I'm leaving, you have 4 new and unexperienced marshals while in the middle of a civil war with Regalla but you're good to spare your more seasoned one to go after an outlander right?

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Aloy: No one can help me, I'm doing this alone!! (x6)

*5 secs later*

Kotallo: Hey, can I come with you?

Aloy: omg YES. I'm glad you asked

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Yes. Exactly. Awesome points and I have nothing to argue. I'm dying to see how Guerrilla plays this out. Hopefully we will see this relationship develop more.

Okay but I'll dig into this hole again

Why couldn't Aloy just put the damn cannon on a charger's back and take it off at the Bulwark?? No, they had to make Kotallo get on his fucking knees and tells her he has a strong back. Honestly this is how I picture the devs while writing that scene down:

No no no, we have to make him carry the cannon for her

Why though? Normally she wouldn't accept it, and she could just strap it around the charger's back, they're not walking through any slopes

No, we need him to do this for her to show he can do it even after his injury

Okay I guess you have a point

And while doing it we'll get him to get on his knees

Okay... To carry it he would have to

And while he's on his knees he says "I may be maimed, but I've still got a strong back"

... You want him to say he has a strong back while on his knees in front of her?

Yes!

... I guess that's okay

And we show him struggling to put it on his back but still being able to succeed with certain ease

Yeah okay sounds reasonable showing he can still do it without much effort

But we have Aloy staring at him surprised

I... guess she would be impressed yes it requires a lot of strength to lift it

And she keeps staring until he moves away

Okay, you got something to tell me?

I would say the devs didn't intend to make their relationship like this in the first place, that it grew conscious and evolved into what it is. That maybe they just wanted Kotallo to be a relatable companion who understands her in a deeper level and still respects her for who she is instead of putting her on a pedestal, that both their respect for each other is earned and eventually growing to friendship and fondness. But all the hints of Elisabet not loving anyone, then Tilda's relationship with her, Varl and Zo, Talanah and Amadis, the Enduring, and a bunch of other things the game throws at you... I can't say that wasn't in the back of their minds the whole time...

And plus, the shameless flirting we got going on (god the VAs were in for it huh)

#guerrilla games #just give this to us we want it #you have already gotten us this far #aloy #kotallo #aloy x kotallo #kotaloy #hfw #horizon forbidden west #horizon series

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They are literally my favorites and I will never stop loving them.

kotallo and aloy + fondness

#horizon #horizon forbidden west #kotallo #aloy #aloy x kotallo #kotaloy #Guerrilla let us have this

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Will you meet me where we felled Regalla’s Tremortusk? Right where the river bends.  Sure, if you want. But I’m not sure I understand.  You’ll see when we get there. I promise.

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For real can’t get enough of these two. 

Two full minutes of just Aloy and Kotallo flirting right in front of our salads

Aaaand we start with the classic one, sir who says that while ON THEIR KNEES damn it

Also took the liberty to include the endless staring cuz man on the grove their both eye fucking each other right on Hekarro's back like (and that last one Alva dear I need you to leave the room right now)

#we need more aloy and kotallo #Please Guerrilla #maybe in a dlc #even better in a full game #they are too precious #horizon #horizon series #horizon forbidden west #hfw #kotallo #aloy #kotaloy #aloy x kotallo

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I just can't... ♡

We will help you 😏

#not sure how i feel ahout a horizon series but agree that Noshir would need to play Kotallo #also the series will need to have Kotallo if it wants any chance to be good #if we can get a Kotaloy story in there that would be ideal #also we need Kotaloy in the games pleaseeee #kotallo #kotaloy #guerilla games #horizon #horizon series #horizon zero dawn #horizon forbidden west #noshir dalal

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Just told my husband I'd leave him for Kotallo, and without batting an eye he just said, "Same."

#glad we are on the same page #the boys the girls they all like kotallo #I mean he is perfect after all #Kotallo #guerrilla games #horizon forbidden west #horizon #horizon series #hfw

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And also his lingering look back at her. Taking it with all their other subtle interactions, looks, ad body language during the game I just melt.

The way Aloy gently touches Kotallo's arm and looks him in the eye and speaks to him softly before they go storm the Far Zenith base reblog if you agree

#guerrilla games #kotallo #aloy #kotaloy #horizon forbidden west #i love them #their dynamic is everything #please give is more

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WHAT THE HELL IS THIS ??????????????

#i am screaming #how did I not know about this until now #we need more flirty aloy x kotallo momenta #aloy #aloy x kotallo #kotallo #kotaloy #hfw #horizon forbidden west #horizon #guerrilla games

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A strong back

Listen I was strongly in the "no love interest" wagon with Aloy before.. But her and Kotallo uhhh 👀

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Alright Horizon fans. Let’s talk. Now, I did not want romance in Horizon at all until HFW gifted us with Kotallo. Now I'm adamant that he should be with Aloy, and I previously posted this essay about why. So I'm back with this intensively thought-out explanation regarding why (in my opinion) Aloy should not be with various other characters with whom she is often shipped. Just an FYI - if you disagree and want to ship her with other characters (or nobody) that is obviously fine, and I’m not here to argue. This is just me spewing out my thoughts, since I feel like I’ll explode if I keep them pent up. 

Petra – I’m starting with Petra because Ashly Burch previously wrote on Reddit that she felt Petra would be the most compatible with Aloy up to that point (this was about four years ago now, so before HFW). Her reasoning was as follows: “Petra is the only one who would respect and understand her need for full autonomy and frequent excursions on super dangerous mission...I also don't think it would be a particularly intimate relationship, and I doubt that Petra could stay monogamous.” She did, however, go on to say that “I actually don't think I would personally ship her with anyone that we've met yet,” though I am aware that there are still a good number of Aloy/Petra shippers. I think this is all quite accurate and well-reasoned by AB, and it is worth noting out of the gate because she is basically the proverbial horse’s mouth. Also regarding Petra, I can’t help but feel that the dynamic she has with Aloy is really one of friendship more than anything that seems romantic, intimate, or sexual. When Aloy runs into Petra in the very beginning of HFW, Aloy is pretty rushed, and is practically dying to get away from Petra ASAP. This actually seems to make Petra a bit salty, by the way, which is, interestingly, opposite the argument that AB made in the first place (though she seems to get over this pretty quickly). Moreover, this does not seem like behavior of someone attracted to the person they just ran into, on Aloy’s part. As they continue their dialogue at Chainscrape, it is really pretty much all business, too, and I feel like you’d have to do quite a bit of interpretational gymnastics to see any kind of romance developing there. I also feel that historically Aloy has frequently appeared uncomfortable when Petra flirts with her, and I don't think this is because she has feelings in return, but rather that she doesn't know how to treat a friend showing her such overt flirtation (we have seen this discomfort for her with other characters making moves on her, as well). Furthermore, Petra is a bit of a one dimensional character, and though I enjoy Petra for the levity her character brings, I think Aloy's personality would work best with someone a bit more multifaceted and deep. 

Erend - There are a lot of Aloy/Erend shippers but I also know that a lot of them have already expressed willingness to consider Aloy/Kotallo since playing HFW. That probably in itself shows that shipping Erend - at least in some cases - may have been more related to proximity and him just being a beloved character from the first game (rather than a feeling that he would be right for Aloy, and that their relationship would add to the story). Don't get me wrong, I love Erend as well, but he should absolutely NOT be with Aloy. I'd rather be decapitated by a dull guillotine than see that happen. Erend is a loveable goofball for the most part, and while he has more depth than meets the eye initially, I'd say just barely. He really is pretty simple, and I don't think he would really challenge or stimulate Aloy (which I think she needs). Erend is someone who prefers to eat, drink and be merry, whereas Aloy is a very action-oriented person, who I think would still have a heart for action and adventure even after saving the world. As such, I think Erend would bore her. Now, Erend’s affection for Aloy has been made clear, and though I think he has grown a bit in HFW, he still seems to have a tendency to burden her with feeling obligated to give him time and attention (as was the case with him being resentful about her rushing off after the end of HZD). This is definitely not right for Aloy, who really does need to have freedom and independence, and who needs someone who understands that she is putting her mission and duty first. With that said, I do think that over the story of HFW he's somewhat accepted that her mission means that she is not looking for a relationship (to this point). I think he's started to see her more as a sister (like a sort of replacement for Ersa) and Aloy sees him more like a protective big brother. And I think that is the perfect dynamic for them. I love that chemistry between them, but I can't see them being anything more. 

By the way, I know some people point to the look Aloy gives towards Erend when they are standing together at the end of HFW, but I think it's really important to point out here that in this moment she has just looked at her entire gang and has made the choice to move forward on her journey with the help of the people she loves. She then looks at Erend (her oldest friend in the group at that point). With that being said, I think her look in that scene is more reflective of the happy notion that she can have a family - even while she tries to save the world - and not actually an amorous look. 

Nil - I can't believe how many people ship Aloy/Nil because to me it's blatantly clear that he is all wrong for Aloy. Though I think they have similar personalities with being action-oriented, adventurous people (and I agree that – like Petra – Nil would give Aloy the freedom that she needs), they have none of the same values. Nil is not really one for reducing conflict, which is certainly one of Aloy’s goals. Aloy says this herself during a discussion with Kotallo at the base, and he agrees, with her, by the way. Aloy has also been pretty clear during their conversations that she does not agree with Nil’s choices and his lifestyle in most circumstances. This does not lend itself very well to a relationship/romantic partnership.  

Talanah - IFF I were to ship Aloy with someone besides Kotallo, it would be Talanah, but I still don't think this would be a good pairing. Talanah is a bad ass with more nuance than many other characters – and I do think that she and Aloy have similar values and personalities - but she and Aloy are also pretty clearly depicted as simply very good friends and fellow hunters. Their dynamic is really not sexually charged at all, as evidenced by the very platonic hug at the end of HFW, and the frank conversation that they have in that same scene about love (which is in no way directed towards each other). Not to mention that Talanah herself has admitted that she's still a bit hung up on Amadis…

Avad - Blehk. Avad is not a bad guy, but it should go without saying that Avad is a terrible choice for Aloy. She has no interest in being royalty (or Carja, I think, for that matter, with all their excess and opulence), and it is frustrating that he won't listen to her polite refusals, but rather keeps pestering/burdening her with his advances. He doesn't understand her at all, and I think the idea of them being together is laughable. I think the majority of the fanbase agrees, but I’m still including him because he is so forward with his attempts to court her in the game itself.

Friends. Romans. Thank you for staying this long, if you have, and know that I still love you even if you don’t agree with my points. :) 

I will conclude by once more saying that Aloy absolutely should be with Kotallo. They have so much in common in terms of similarities of upbringing, and shared goals, values, and personality traits. Going back to Ashly Burch’s comment from 4 years ago about how she would not personally ship Aloy with anyone at that point, it should be noted that Kotallo was not around at the time. But he is now, and I also feel that Aloy has grown and changed a lot over the course of HFW. She is now more open to exploring relationships of all kind, and I think the game could do some really great things narratively by exploring love/strength through a romantic relationship with her and Kotallo, similar to how they made a wonderful story about the power of friendship in HFW. 

#horizon #horizon series #horizon spoilers #horizon forbidden west #horizon zero dawn #hfw #hzd #guerrilla games #aloy #kotallo #If you can't tell I have given this way too much thought

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But for real, he's amazing and the only person worthy of Aloy.

Was playing with some shots of him at Stone Crest and I paused the perfect moment where the light hits his eyes just right and damn bruh look at this man wtf

Also the second one is a personal favorite

#aloy x kotallo #kotallo #horizon series #guerrilla games #horizon #horizon forbidden west #hfw #if you didn't plan to pair them up why did you make them perfect for each other Guerrilla

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Damn, this is such a good compilation.

Well when you put it like that...

I mean honestly I'm just stating facts here, its open to interpretation, I just conveniently pieced them together.

Look at all this hints bruh, specially if you consider this

#your honor I submit this compilation into evidence #aloy #aloy x kotallo #kotaloy #Aloy deserves happiness #so does Kotallo #horizon series #horizon spoilers #hfw #guerrilla games #kotallo #horizon forbidden west

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On Reddit I've seen some comments suggesting, essentially, that Aloy should not be with Kotallo because he's never showed interest or flirted with her. Some people think he only sees her as his commander. To that I say:

ARE YOU KIDDING ME?!

For one thing, why should that matter if they develop a relationship over the course of another game? but besides that point, yes, yes he has.

What about his smirky looks he gives her when they meet up to test his arm, and the way he is mysterious and playfully considers it "revenge" for her not elaborating her plan about the Bulwark sooner?

And what about the look and the once over he gives her when she tells him to meet her friend to take him to the base? You cannot tell me that is not a flirty look, like, who among us would receive that look and not have their entire insides instantly doing summersaults?

Furthermore, I feel like it's obvious that Kotallo knows that Aloy does not really like a lot of attention, particularly when it comes with some sort of obligation or distracts her from her mission. He was there when Hekarro said to Aloy that "when they met she spoke of her true mission on which all depends." Kotallo is smart and insightful, and he also has an enormous respect for duty, so obviously he would not want to burden Aloy with overt signs of flirtation. When he swore to give "whatever was left of his life" to Aloy, I feel like he did it under the pretext that she would be a sort of "commander" (and I want to also note that it's interesting that she let him join her team under this pretext though she later admitted to him that she does not see herself as anyone's commander) but he really joined under the subtext of wanting to just be by her side however possible. Others have pointed this out as well, but if you watch closely during the scene immediately after they save Hakarro from Regalla, when Aloy says that she'll "do what she can to help" the Tenakth, Kotallo looks at her with a kind of excited expression, only for this to fall to disappointment when Hekarro tells her no, and that's she's done enough. Kotallo then joined Aloy basically right after this as a loyal soldier for her cause, but in his mind I think that his commitment to her is far more than that. He just knows not to burden her with his feelings because he gets her.

Which makes him all the more perfect to be her partner, by the way.

#horizon series #hfw #guerrilla games #aloy #kotallo #aloy x kotallo #kotaloy #they belong together your honor #horizon #horizon forbidden west

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Incorrect Horizon Quotes

*Gang prepares to rush out for a mission *

Aloy: We should take sunwings, it'll be faster.

Erend: Bah! Fly? No way. I'd rather get knocked out repeatedly sparring Kotallo.

Aloy (glaring at Kotallo): You knocked him out?!

Kotallo: I will not apologize for my superior martial prowess, though I am sorry for assuming that his Oseram skull was as thick as it would seem. 

#horizon #horizon forbidden west #kotallo #erend #aloy #incorrect horizon quotes #I just love how Erend loses everything to Kotallo #They are buddies though #Also I want to hear the supposed good talk they had while drunk