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Replies on that ao3 censorship posts comparing ao3 and proshippers to irl white supremacy movements and saying they're responsible for KOSA... Well that escalated quickly.

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im taking media away from some of u guys until you can pass a 6th grade literary analysis test

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freaks and degenerates are just so much nicer and kinder than the rest of you idk. i love you perverts with illegal and unethical fantasies thank you for being so nice to me

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mfers will say "im against book banning in schools and libraries!" and then turn around and say ao3 needs to be censored

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its really crazy how people love to blorbopost about how their blorbo is a War Criminal Scrunkly but those same people will act like you ate their dog if you so much as imply that scrunkly has any textual relation to sexual violence

#antis be like

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Antis: Constantly harassing people over stupid fandom shit sometimes to the point the doxxed people lose their jobs and develop serious mental health issues.

Also Antis: I care about people. I'm a good person :)

Antis: I care about minors! Minors need protection!

Also Antis: Harass proship minors and tell them they deserve to be bullied, abused and harmed.

Fandom Problem #4801:

Antis: Ugh I can't believe people are MAD at us for being uncomfortable with gross shit 🙄

Also Antis: If your ship met each other as kids that's incest and pedophilia and you deserve the death penalty

Also Antis: Wow I'm so normal

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https://www.tumblr.com/olderthannetfic/748088461705265152/i-hate-to-revive-dni-discourse-when-it-just-ended?source=share

"I will block anyone who reblogs my disability activism posts as kink" is not an unreasonable stance.

"I feel icky when I think about kinksters reading my posts, so I will put some meaningless virtue signaling blither in my blog header to tell them they are violating my personal space by seeing public posts on the internet" is the stance of someone who isn't in a good place to be making public activism posts and needs to find a moderated space to discuss disability.

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#dniscourse

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"swerf and kink DNI!"

darling, I need you to take a deep breath and read this again out loud.

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"I still post my fics on ao3 but I don't support their policy and you're a bad person if you donate to them"

SHUT UP!

SHUT UP! SHUT UP!

OFF TO WATTPAD YOU GO! I DON'T CARE!

#ao3 discourse

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I've seen antis complaining about AO3's archive warnings bc it has the rape/non-con and underage warnings. Like, they're there for people who don't want to read fics with those topics to more easily hide them in their search. Instead of having to hide 1000 tags that relate to rape, you can just hide that one, it LITERALLY HELPS YOU NOT HAVING TO SEE THAT CONTENT WHY ARE YOU COMPLAINING.

Antis: Omfg if you're going to write it at least take 1947473 precautions to make sure I never ever have to see it!!

Antis when you use the 1947473 precautions:

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Judging by the common DNIs...

Where are all the DDLG, pedo, necro, zoo blogs? Are they here with us now?

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It occurs to me, looking through a bunch of DNI lists and carrds (although it has surely been observed before by others), is that what the people who make these want is not unreasonable per se. Rather, what they are asking for is unreasonable, because what they want is to not be using social media. They want to be using forums, or group chats, or instant messenger, or blogs; they want online communication spaces that are moderated, that are topic-specific, that are limited to existing/vetted members. And these this desire is not unreasonable, but it does not match modern social media.

And because so many of the people who make these seem so very young, I wonder how many of them even realize that spaces that do what they want can (and used to, and still somewhat do) exist, realize that social media can't do what they want it to, but that social media is not the only way for the internet to be.

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I need many people to realize a strong contribution to the purity discourse in media we see among young people is due to radfems & gender criticals poisoning the water supply on sites like this one (tumblr) or other social media since 2014

Seeing teens and young 20-somethings using "porn addicted", "porn-brained", "degenerate", all unironically, those are words you find in alt-right & anti-LGBTQ+ message boards.

It wasn't JUST GCs alone, but many people have been around to see them influence a generation of kids with arguments you see today like

“X in fiction causes abuse"

“x is fetishization"

"Unless you've personally gone through trauma you shouldn't write about it"

“If you HAVE gone through trauma, you can't sexually explore it"

"If you like abuse in fiction you're an abuser in real life”

Hearing kids call random (usually queer!) shippers in fandom "groomers" and "pedophiles" for ships that have been established in fandom for decades, or because of a "power imbalance" between adult characters isn't a coincidence. Hmm, I wonder what other groups use those words?

It's not solely kids alone, it is a combination of:

Online radicalization and disinformation

No spaces for kids

No internet safety/literacy

Steeping censorship in activist language,

lack of education (If you don't know red flags you can't avoid them)

COVID did NOT help

This is why ignoring it will never help, because while thankfully some people grow out of it, it usually happens to people who had some support system or breakthrough in cognitive dissonance. There are plenty of people who are becoming adults and who keep infantilizing themselves

“My brain isn't done until I'm 25, you're all predators" and they're talking to a 30 y/o

That argument is literally being used by UK government officials to block access to gender-affirming healthcare. Infantilizing adults only serves the purpose of stripping agency and rights

They're not being safe. They're not gaining skills. They're participating in a fear-fueled climate of faulty medical misinformation, keeping themselves in a perpetual childish-victim state no matter how old they get and nothing about this is healthy

How do you think a person goes through this world when they've been wholly convinced that you can tell someone is safe because they like "safe" or “wholesome" things, & people who make them uncomfortable via hobbies or interests (not IRL actions) are probably actual criminals?

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>It's so hard to find fandom blogs that aren't antis

>run an openly proship sideblog

>people from your preffered fandoms start following your proship sideblog

>follow them back

>profit

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All the “DNI proshipper” stuff I always see from my main blog is so funny to me. Like unless it’s something the account itself openly discusses, how the hell are you gonna know? You’re on a fandom website, I’m going to go ahead and assume that most people here have a philosophy of “ship and let ship”. Especially among the 18+ crowd. I mean, why else would all these antis feel the need to be so vocal about it? Are they really all THAT bad at curating an online space? Strange for a group of people that seem to be terminally online. Speaking of not acknowledging the real world; your neighbour is a proshipper, your cashier is a proshipper, and your English teacher is DEFINITELY a proshipper. Okay have a nice day.

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WAIT!

Before you hit send on that ask, reblog, or reply, remember to stop and PROOFREAD!

am I Pissing on the Poor?

did I Read the post in bad faith?

could I be Overexaggerating?

am I Out of line for saying this?

is it kind of Fucked up to say that to a total stranger?

is what I said Rude?

am I being Egotistical?

am I Angry at words that weren't in the post?

did I Dream up a pretend person to get mad at?

ONLY YOU CAN PREVENT YOURSELF FROM LOOKING LIKE A JACKASS ONLINE!