dreamslesbian

[dreamslesbian]

miss you dude

aww man this is so sweet wtf 🥺😭 i /gen didn't think anyone would notice me gone tbh ahskfj i miss being around too !! and everyone !!!

ive. been debating a lot about what to do with this acc bc things still feel so confusing and anxiety inducing. also i uh. got a new hyperfixation so that's been occupying 89% of my brain capacity 😅 i did see dreblr got a win tho and that made me happy for everyone !! i might use this account to rb and maybe even post some dsmp stuff but nothing of the ccs ? idk idk. sorry for just dumping all of that here agdhdb ty for the message it means a lot 💛

#kole answers

[dreamslesbian]

hellu. idk if anyone cares but just in case ! im leaving this acc inactive for the foreseeable future. i'll be on my main: damislesbian with mostly anime posts probably. okay thats all hope everyone is okay !

#kole talks

[dreamslesbian]

My take re: the stuff involving Dream, is that I don't think anything has been proven. I'm a bit confused and want clarification from him on what exactly he is contenting is true vs false, but also from what he discusses it sounds like he didn't have a lot of time to review everything. Fair enough. I also think he should be in contact w/lawyers before he posts anything else.

I'm withholding judgement on the situation until actual proof one way or the other comes forward. Both people have mentioned legal action, and I do think that is the logical next step. A court of law will be able to fact find and collect evidence far better than a bunch of randos on the internet.

I don't want to dismiss the accuser's claims, but I am also not willing to take them at face value. They could be true, they could be false. There isn't enough evidence to say something did or didn't happen.

So, I think the responsible thing to do right now is to wait, take a deep breath, and see how things play out. Nobody should be sending harassment to anyone or spreading things uncritically.

#might be the last post i make on this acc for a bit #well see #take care everyone !

[dreamslesbian]

Listening To A Potential Victim Does Not Mean Disregarding Critical Thinking or Evidence

So, I've been avoiding a lot of the stuff regarding Dream on twitter, mostly because I thought a lot of it was dumb, and being handled poorly. However, now that things have cooled off a bit, I want to discuss something.

To summarize the situation for those unaware, on twitter, a person made an accusation that when they were 17/"18 soon", they had flirty conversations with a then 20 year old Dream. The person did not allege any form of grooming, coercion, actual relationship, sexting, nudes, etc. The evidence of this they provided is sketchy at best, they claimed to have evidence that was more definitive and then backtracked, and overall it's just been weird. I think people on reddit/here have already done enough to debunk a lot of it or point out how things don't add up. That's not what I want to talk about right now.

What I want to talk about is the narrative of "believe the victim" that has sprung up in these discussions. People casting doubt or pointing out holes in the story presented have received hate/been accused of "defending an abuser" under this assumption that you are supposed to "believe the victim". This is an incredibly dangerous and easily exploitable mindset. It is dangerous both for innocent parties that may get accused, and also for actual victims. I honestly do not like to say "believe the victim". Instead, I prefer to say "listen to the victim".

Now, when someone comes forward to make an accusation against someone, you absolutely should listen to them. You should hear the person out with an open mind, and not instantly jump to discredit or dismiss them regardless of what they say. You should remain respectful, and not engage in any form of harassment toward the person speaking out, even if you don't believe what they are saying. This is a healthy mindset. This is what "listen to the victim" looks like.

HOWEVER

"Listen to the victim" does NOT mean you should treat everything the accuser is saying as empirically true. You should consider it. You should look at the evidence that they present. You should use critical thinking skills and discuss the evidence as well as the weight of the accusation in question. The other side of the story should be heard and discussed as well. And then you can come to your conclusion based on everything that is presented to you.

"Listen to the victim" also does not mean that you should not ask for proof, particularly if the person in question is a stranger. It is on the accuser to provide proof of the claims that they make. It is on them to provide evidence as best they can. This can be hard, and it can feel unfair, but it's a vital part of addressing situations like this.

Part of why this is so important is because people can lie. If an abuser knows that a victim may speak out against them, they can come out and accuse the victim of abuse in order to discredit them. If you blindly "believe the victim", you may end up participating in furthering the abuse of someone and prevent an actual victim from speaking up.

The mindset of "believe the victim" when applied as "do not critically examine any of the evidence or doubt the person accusing" ends up actually turning into "believe whoever you hear say something first". This is incredibly dangerous, very unhelpful, and a mindset that is used to shut down and shame critical examinations of evidence. It is can and has been used as a tool by abusers or those looking to harass people to shut down anyone questioning what they say.

If you don't feel confident that you understand the evidence of a situation, or that you have had the time to process and evaluate it, do not spread that information or those accusations uncritically. Take your time, see things for yourself, come to your conclusions based on what you feel comfortable trusting.

You should always remain respectful, you should keep an open mind, and you absolutely should listen to people when they speak up about serious issues. But that doesn't mean you shouldn't also think critically about the situation, examine the evidence put out, and take your time before making a decision on how you feel.

[dreamslesbian]

PHIL: [Dream] pulls an absolute diva and gigachad moment [to twitch staff].. and it was a total diva moment he turns to them and goes “yo, theyre going on with me.” and theyre like “uhhh that wasnt in the agreement” and he just goes “well then im not doing it” and we all just? start walking with our partner managers and twitch staff.. he went full karen i was like this is CRAZY.. what are you doing. they started quoting fire codes and he said “let me see them.” and they cant show it to him because they’re bullshitting—they said “okay, we’ll compromise.” he was just going to fucking dip.

#!!! #also FUCK TWITCH

[dreamslesbian]

a cat dad, a cat and also a cat <3

psst support on twitter

i think tumblr hates me for real for the quality so pls click :')

also if anyone is wondering about "tail chomp" here is the real one ⤵⤵

[dreamslesbian]

not an anti or a pro-shipper but a third secret thing (adult with job)

[dreamslesbian]

i wonder if he knows about the context of zachs tweet but idk i think it’d be really funny if hank green was a dream stan and john green was a dream anti

[dreamslesbian]

Modern day Romeo & Juliet

[dreamslesbian]

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#if it looks like im ignoring everything is bc i am #this subjecg is just. a bit triggering for personal reasons so. yeah #sorry about that #kole talks #tbd probably idk

[dreamslesbian]

i think the mcyt fandom needs to unlearn this habit they’ve picked up of engaging uncritically with any accusation thread regardless of source

because it ends up with a lot of people equating grooming with any inappropriate behavior and discrediting anyone who points out issues in the thread’s story or source which is just dangerous for everyone involved, to be honest

[dreamslesbian]

wtf happened i left for like half an hour

[dreamslesbian]

Butcher

[dreamslesbian]

dream team but babies

dream: 5 sapnap: 4 george: 8

#CRYINSSCREAMINGTHROWING U P #BABIES MY BABIES #art #happy tag

[dreamslesbian]

i can't vibe with anyone who thinks icarus was an ignorant idiot for flying too close to the sun. "oh i'd never do that i would have remembered my father's warning and been fine". do you seriously think that after years of imprisonment, feeling the sun on your face and the open air beneath your wings, you would be able to focus on anything but the joy of being alive and free? do you actually think that if you were given the opportunity to go where nobody has never been before, you wouldn't want to push it to the limit? to dare to be the first to try what no one else has ever even thought possible? do you honestly think you're too good for your own human nature? look me in the eyes and tell me if i strapped a pair of wings to your back that could take you wherever you wanted to go whenever you pleased that you'd be careful and sensible about it. you are not better than icarus just because you have the benefit of his example.

[dreamslesbian]

i hate when top wildlife predators are just lil babies teeny tiny babies

#new c!dream hybrid au just dropped

[dreamslesbian]

Today I offer c!dream 🤲