Iâm taking a break⊠the bullying against Elriels is just too much to handle for me right now. Once again, I get threats for speaking about canon scenes yâall. Can you believe it⊠they attack me, I defend myself, and in the end, they show me their worst. Thereâs no space for me, no space for ElrielsâŠ
A falling star fell from your heart and landed in my eyes
I screamed aloud as it tore through them and now itâs left me blind
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I took the stars from my eyes and then I made a map
And knew that somehow, I could find my way back
And I heard your heart beating, you were in the darkness, too
So I stayed in the darkness with you
Iâm like so sure theyâre actually TRUE MATES and Iâm screaming about it for a long time now. đđ„șđžđŠ
What if Elain and Azriel are mates?
I know it sounds crazy, but bare with me.
In the Throne of Glass series, Rowan was convinced from the moment he first laid eyes on Lyria that she was his mate. He believed that for centuries and every day since, even after falling in love with Aelin.
However, in the end, it was all a trick orchestrated by Maeve to turn him into her servant. What if thatâs what went on with Lucien, Elain and The King of Hybern.
What if the King of Hybern (who we all know is NOT an idiot) saw how faltering Lucienâs loyalty to Tamlin was becoming and how dangerous that could be to him during the war, but couldnât risk killing Lucien and ruining the alliance with Tamlin and The Spring Court. So, as a way to ensure Lucienâs loyalty, he tricked him into believing that Elain was his mate, because he never expected her to get away with the rest of The Court of Dreams at the end of ACOMAF. He expected to have Elain locked away at his side (as she temporarily is in ACOWAR) with Lucien right there, ready to do anything for The King as long as he didnât harm her.
The King of Hybern had The Cauldron. He broke an unbreakable bond, turned humans into high fae, destroyed the entire wall in the blink of an eye and he almost cleaved the world apart with it. Creating an elaborate illusion is certainly not beyond him.
It would also explain why Lucien, despite always being concerned with Elianâs safety, wasnât hesitant about leaving her at The Night Court when he left for The Continent. In fact, when he returned, he didnât even ask about her or try and find her in the middle of a deadly battle where she could be in serious harm. In fact, Elain shows little to no interest in him at all. She is simply indifferent to him.
If Lucien was not Elainâs mate but Azriel was, it would also explain why Azriel was so quick to take a liking to her. He was supposedly in love with Mor for five hundred years, but if both Elain and Mor were in the same room, his attention would always be directed towards Elain. Even Mor noticed it and pointed it out herself.
Elain trusted Azriel enough to not fear him, even though she knew exactly what and who he was, and exactly how dangerous he could be. She was never scared of him. Oh, and hereâs the real kicker, Azriel gave her Turthteller. Remember, that weapon that he has never so much as let anyone touch, not even his high lord, not even his brothers or the woman he supposedly loves? He handed it over to her despite barely knowing her.
Maybe itâs just me. Maybe I find Azriel and Elain as a couple makes more sense to me then Elain and Lucien together, and perhaps I think Azriel and Elain have much better chemistry. However, there were way too many hints and clues pointing towards Elriel, and we all know SJMaas does not just do that for no reason. They could be each otherâs temporary romantic interest, but theyâve both had theyâre hearts broken by the person they believed they were meant to be with.
So maybe this isnât a crazy theory, and maybe they are mates. Weâll just have to wait and see.
I find all the posts and comments I see about how Elainâs book canât be next because sheâs not developed enough really interesting if perplexing. I donât think this is the case at all for several reasons.
1. A character doesnât have to be developed to be a main character. Indeed, stand-alone books always feature a character who is completely undeveloped as the main character (because we havenât met them yet)!
2. SJM appears to have purposefully given Elain little page time in ACOSF, presumably to keep a lot of her thoughts and who she is a mystery until we get her book. Thatâs what makes her exciting as a main characterâthat we donât really know her yet. If we did already know her well, and sheâs already had a prevalent arc, that would take away from her story in her book. The whole point is that we get to really learn about who Elain is in HER story, not someone elseâs.
3. If gwynrielâs book is next, Elain isnât going to get significantly more development in the next book. Gwyn has never met Elain, so there is no reason for Elain to have page time with gwyn. And things with Elain and azriel presumably will have ended (badly, or at least not comfortably), so it seems she wouldnât get page time in azrielâs POV either. Instead, sheâll likely leave the night court and develop off the page (presumably with Lucien).
4. What we saw of Elain in ACOSF suggests her book is next. We saw Elain start to stand up to Nesta for the first time, suggesting that Elain is ready to come into her own. SJM reminded the reader of Elainâs trauma and that she is still healing from that when Elain confronted Nesta about how Nesta has used Elainâs trauma. Cassian questioned the existence and extent of Elainâs powers several times, reminding the reader that we have a lot to learn about her powers. Several characters started to realize that there is more to Elain than they realized. And we saw that Elain has learned to be stealthy and to keep secrets. All of this seems to be setting the stage for Elainâs book.
And one final point. From a plot standpoint, Iâm not really sure what Gwynriel brings to the story. More Valkyrie training, which we already got an entire book of? More Valkyrie bonding, which we already got an entire book of? An Illyrian plotline, even though thatâs not connected to Koschei at all, and would seem to center Gwyn in a story that doesnât involve her? A possible love triangle between Elain Az and Gwyn that results in either Elain or Az being rejected AGAIN? I guess an autumn court plotline if Gwyn is related to Lucien or Eris in some way (and that somehow comes to light)? I just donât see how any of this moves the Koschei plotline forward, and it seems like more of the same to what weâve already had in ACOSF. It was fun the first time, but Iâm not sure it would be so fun the second time.
Meanwhile, an Elriel book allows us to explore different parts of the world to look for the fourth trove. It allows Elain to explore her powers as a seer and whatever other powers she has. We will get to see a new female friendship (Elain and Nuala and Cerridwen) and explore that, along with who Nuala and Cerridwen are and what their powers and backstory are. We will get to see a different kind of strength and power exploredânot fighting, but spying and shadow work and stealth. We will learn a lot more about Koschei. We might get the blood dual. Weâd get a mating bond rejection, which while painful for everyone involved will be interesting to explore (and we know Lucien will get his happy ending later). And weâll get a second showdown with Koschei (and presumably see him set free to set up for ACOTAR 6 đ±).
The latter sounds like a much more interesting story to me, and is much more connected to the overarching Koschei plot đ€·ââïž
The Night Court IC in Velaris vs. Hewn City đ„°đ đ„°đ
(Thereâs got to be other dreamers in the Hewn City, right?! Freedom, sunlight and therapy to the forgotten mountain-dwelling dreamers please!)
So the minute we read Azrielâs bonus chapter and finally get in his head and his povâŠthatâs when he becomes out of character??
Please be serious. We never had his pov. He barely spoke two sentences together. But the second itâs confirmed he wants Elain and desires her romantically and sexually thatâs when you decide heâs out of character lol?.
You convinced yourselves that he never wanted Elain. You âinterpretedâ every interaction between them as a âsiblingâ vibes. That he was only being âniceâ and didnât actually care about her in a romantic sense.
And when it was finally confirmed that what elriels had been saying all along was the truth and that Elain and Azriel were attracted to each other and wanted each other sexually and romanticallyâŠsuddenly itâs out of character?
What would be out OOC at this point would be Elain suddenly wanting Lucien, when sheâs clearly avoided him and has been uncomfortable around him for multiple books. What would be OOC is for Azriel to switch from Elain to Gwyn in a single night, when he spent 500 years obsessed over Mor and didnât stop obsessing until he met Elain (not Gwyn). Forget Azriel supposedly saving his âmateâ Gwyn, falling for and obsessing over Elain (the first woman to actually get him over Mor). Like what kind of mate bond is this? That Azriel is obsessed over two females who arenât Gwyn?
Thatâs not romance. Thatâs not how Sarah writes romances. She never would have written a bonus that was supposed to signal the building romance and next couple of ACOTAR by having him obsessing, desiring, and tormented over the thoughts of another woman.
(And why I think ACOSF was written to set up Elriel)
This is my interpretation and obviously an Elriel post. So if thatâs not your cup of tea, be warned.
I made this post to basically organize my thoughts and then I decided to post it (lol). Here I talk why I think Elriel will be endgame based on my perspective that SJM already set up a lot of things that point to Elriel and a forbidden romance.
ACOSF is the first book of a new trilogy, which means SJM wrote it with an overarching plot in mind that we began to know in ACOSF. So whatever happens in ACOTAR5 is a direct consequence of the events in ACOSF.
For example, SJM wonât kill Koschei and write another plot. She made her decisions when she was writing ACOSF and the overarching plot already started to be established.
I already made a post talking about the plot. I think Elain is the only character that can move the plot forward, because sheâs Made, therefore she can find the fourth trove and she has a connection with Koschei, which combined with how little we know about her and her powers makes her the perfect main character. But here I want to talk a little about how Sarah wrote ACOSF preparing Elainâs character in terms of romance and how she set up a future forbidden romance.
At this point, it is canon that Elain is Azrielâs secret, Iâm not going to talk too much about, because you can check this amazing post here.
SJM structured the first book of the new trilogy around the ideia that something is deeply tormenting Azriel to the point he canât sleep and then we find out he has a secret. The bonus chapter made it canon: his secret is Elain, so thereâs no going back from that.
Just from the book, we know that thereâs something wrong with Elain and, whatever it is, she is hiding it.
Elain had already departed with Feyre, claiming she had to be up with the dawn to tend to an elderly faerieâs garden. Cassian didnât exactly know why he suspected this wasnât true. There had been some tightness in Elainâs face as sheâd said it.
Alright, so the regular reader knows something is up with these two characters. (That alone is already a reason for the next book be about them, but moving on)
But when ACOSF is read with the perspective of a future forbidden romance in mind, we understand precisely why SJM needed us to know some very specific information.
Azrielâs personality traits
SJM highlighted specific personality traits of our bat boy:
Az had a vicious competitive streak. It wasnât boastful and arrogant, the way Cassian knew he himself was prone to be, or possessive and terrifying like Amrenâs. No, it was quiet and cruel and utterly lethal. Cassian had lost track of how many games theyâd played over the centuries, with one of them certain of a win, only for Az to reveal some master strategy. Or how many games had been reduced to only Rhys and Az left standing, battling it out over cards or chess until the middle of the night, when Cassian and Mor had given up and started drinking.
Sarah made a show to tell the reader the fact that Azriel is competitive, so she needs us to remember that.
That whole scene had one job: to emphasize that Azriel is competitive and strategist.
Now, if Azriel is giving up on Elain and moving on to another character, why bother to let the reader know he doesnât give up easily? If he is going to just give up on the only female that is making him get over his five hundred years passion, why bother to write a scene where he spares with Cassian only to tell the reader that?
Mostly important, why tell the reader that in countless times, Azriel seemed to be loosing, but he turned things around and won?
Heâs a strategist. Donât forget he planned his strategy for the snowball fight for a year.
âIt seems youâve forgotten how much of spying is waiting for the right moment. People donât engage in their evil deeds when itâs convenient to you.â
Cassian rolled his eyes. âI stopped spying because it bored me to death. I donât know how you put up with this all the time.â
âIt suits me.â Azriel didnât halt his sharpening, though shadows gathered around his feet.
When I read this for the first time, I honestly hadnât understood the meaning of the shadows gathering around his feet and it clearly had a deeper meaning.
But reading again, SJM used Cassianâs character to emphasize that Azriel waits for the right moment all the time. Not only when he is spying. Being patient, calculating, persistent are arguably Azrielâs strongest personality traits, at least the ones that are highlighted in ACOSF. Sarah is letting us know Azriel plays the long game and doesnât give up.
Every information SJM is giving us regarding Azriel (and Elain, more on her later) is essencial for a forbidden romance story. If you know whatâs going on with these characters, all pieces of information just⊠click togheter.
Elainâs personality traits
This is a bit more complicated, mostly because Elain is passing through an inner change, which means being prepared for her arc.
However, SJM compared Elain to Azriel in ACOSF:
âElain was the only one who guessed. She caught me vomiting two mornings in a row.â She nodded toward Azriel. âI think sheâs got you beat for secret-keeping.â
We already know from ACOMAF that Elain is good at secret-keeping. But here SJM not only reminded us that, but she compared Elain to Azriel in secret-keeping, emphasizing both of them are probably the best in secrecy among the IC.
Remember: these two characters are clearly hiding something in ACSF. Itâs not a coincidence that SJM compared them in this case.
She scanned Elain from head to toe, wondering if sheâd been taking lessons in stealth either from Azriel or the two half-wraiths she called friend.
SJM compared Elainâs abilities to Azrielâs (and his spies) not once, but twice. And if you take into consideration the previous books, itâs not the first time she compares these two characters.
Both of them showed defiant behavior
Defiant: refusing to obey authority
Elain:
âWhat happened.â
When Rhys spoke like that, it was more of a command than a question.
Elain waved a hand in dismissal before flinging open the veranda doors and striding into the open air.
And of course, he have that fight with Nesta. Nesta isnât exactly authority, but she was described as âElainâs guardianâ, which means their relationship was at least a little hierarchical.
Azriel:
âNo,â Feyre and Rhys said at the same time, in the same breath.
Azrielâs eyes shuttered. âI wasnât asking for permission.â
âWe take no risks,â Feyre said, voice flat with command. âPull all your spies out.â
âLike hell I will.â
Honestly, is this the guy people are thinking thatâs going to give up on Elain because of Rhy???????
SJM deliberately let us know about them getting over their previous LI
Iâve seen a lot o people arguing that âthey canât be endgame, because the first couple never isâ.
But⊠are we forgetting that they were in love with two different people before?
When Elain met Azriel she was deeply in love with Graysen, and he was still into Mor. The readers didnât even know about Mor sexuality then.
Until ACOFAS, we can see that both of them are not entirely over their LI yet.
Elain:
âI donât want a mate. I donât want a male.â
She wanted a human man.
Azriel:
Azriel choked on what I could have sworn was a laugh, his normally shadowed face lighting up as Mor bustled in.
Az, to his credit, gave Mor a smile of thanks, a blush creeping over his cheeks, his hazel eyes fixed on her. I looked away at the heat, the yearning that filled them.
However, we get to see that they are slowly getting closer. Azriel shows heâs uncomfortable in spying on Lucien, Elainâs throat bobbs at the sight of him, he seeks her out to wish happy Solstice, she gives him a present, they stay up past three in the morning talking and on and on.
Months go by. We already knew they are getting closer and then we have this:
Elain:
She knew Elain had given her maidenhead to Graysen a month before theyâd been turned Fae. Elain had been glowing the next morning.
Elain cocked her head. Didnât dissolve into the crying mess she usually became when Graysen came up.
Elain was glowing: she was in love, happy. She loved Graysen. And now she is getting over him. Not only that: SJM made sure to tell us she has had sex before (and enjoyed very much lol). Elain is clearly being prepared for her arc in terms of character development, plot and romance.
And Azriel:
Mor no longer sat beside Cassian, draped herself over him, and Azriel ⊠those longing glances toward her had become few and far between. As if heâd given up. After five hundred years, heâd somehow given up.
Few and far between. Itâs a process for both of them to move on. At first they were friendly and then it became something more.
Azriel didnât wake up one day, realized that his brothers were mated to Elainâs sisters and went: WAIT A MINUTE I WANT ONE. I would argue he showed interest in Elain since their first meet, just like Cassian showed interest in Nesta. However, Nesta and Cassian werenât in love for anyone else, differently from Elain and Azriel.
Also, Elain and Azriel are very much quieter in comparison, so⊠it makes sense that they needed more time to get closer and be romantic interested in each other.
But again: why bother to tell us both of them are moving on from their previous LI? Why tell us Azriel doesnât give up easily? Why tell us they are both good at keeping secrets and are hiding something?
This post is a follow-up to this one, and is an in-depth analysis of every part of the bonus chapter that I think *might* be a hint that Gwyn is a lightsinger. I realize that some of this analysis might be a stretch, but Iâm putting it all out there in this post. This post also includes a few crack theories, just FYI đ€Ł. Regardless, I believe Sarah might have put the scene with Gwyn in the bonus to plant more seeds that Gwyn is a lightsinger, and also to foreshadow for the reader that Gwyn and Azâs connection in the next book is going to be related to this (and not in a romantic way). (NB: **I fully recognize that this scene also might be hinting at Gwynriel as endgame, and that my theory about this scene might be wrong.)
I will also be explaining how I think the bonus chapter shows that Gwyn lured Azriel with her powers.
As usual, if the Gwyn lightsinger theory isnât your thing, please scroll past.
đĄThe scene starts with Az leaving the River House and going to the roof of the House of Wind to get away, but he encounters something unexpected when he gets there:
Gwyn is on the roof, but his shadows for some reason didnât warn him she was there. He points this out because itâs odd to himâthey must typically warn him of these things. So why didnât they? I think there are two possible explanations:
They didnât sense her because her lightsinger powers shield her from them; or
She wasnât there before, and has just arrived. Cassian tells us that lightsingers appear when you are lost, and they appear as friendly faces. Azriel at this moment is very lostâhe has just hurt Elain, and his brother and high lord has told him he must stay away from her. So what if (and this is a complete crack theory) Gwyn appeared on the roof right before Az got there because he was lost?
đĄWhen he and Gwyn start talking, we see that his shadows are very curious about her:
It seems like this might be because sheâs a lightsinger and they are drawn to her, or interested in her power. And she also smiles at the shadowsâis this because she recognizes something in them too, a connection to them because of her power? Or is it possible she recognizes she can lure them or control them too?
đĄThen we see his shadows react to her further:
One of Azrielâs shadows darts out to dance with Gwynâs breath âlike it heard some silent music.â So I think his shadows *did* hear some silent music. In fact, this bonus scene makes me suspect that Gwyn can emit silent music that lures people or things, and that she doesnât have to be singing outloud to use her powers. Indeed, his shadows seem drawn to Gwyn, or maybe even lured by her, when they dart out to dance with her breath.
đĄLater in the scene, we get this exchange:
First, itâs interesting that her hair is described as âshining like molten metalâ here. I think this suggests that she is using her powers at this point. In ACOWAR, Lucien is described the same way at one point when his temper rises, almost like his power was rising in him.
Anyways, back to the bonus. So Gwyn asks Azriel if he sings, and she points out that heâs a shadowsinger and asks if thatâs because he sings.
We all know Azriel is a shadowsinger, so at first glance this exchange seems odd. But I think the whole point of this exchange was for the readerâto remind us that Azriel is a shadowsinger, and that there are capital-S singers in this world. And that there might be a connection between his powers and singing. And, if you were paying close attention during ACOSF, it might remind you of another capital-S singer we learned ofâlightsingers. LIGHTsingers. Whose powers might have a connection to singing and light. Sound like anyone we know?
So I think sarah might have put this exchange about singing into the bonus specifically to make the reader think about capital-S Singers and lightsingers in particular, to help the reader realize that Gwyn is in fact a capital-S singer tooâsheâs a lightsinger.
đĄAz then proceeds to train Gwyn to help her cut the ribbon, and after she makes a joke about Cassian and Nesta, she smiles at him and thanks him, to which he reacts:
Something restless in him settles, and even his shadows calmed. Now of course this could be because training Gwyn and her irreverence have made him calm down. But I think itâs also possible she has lured him and his shadows to relax here. And thatâs why his shadows are content to lounge on his shoulders and watch herâbecause theyâre entranced (literally).
đĄAzriel leaves shortly thereafter, and as heâs leaving, this occurs:
He could have sworn a faint, beautiful singing followed him, and that his shadows sang in answer. Azriel isnât sure he even hears this music, which to me suggests it again might be silent music that he can only sense because heâs a shadowsinger, which allows him to hear things others cant. Is this another hint that gwyn can emit silent music and use her powers that way? Is she using her powers on Az and his shadows in this moment?
And hereâs another crack (and I mean CRACK) theory: did Gwyn lure Azâs shadows to retrieve the necklace from Elain? If she (or whoever is controlling or manipulating her) wants the necklace, I could see a world in which this happened, though of course it seems much more likely that Elain returned the necklace because she felt hurt and rejected.
đĄThe next day Az spends the whole day intending to return the necklace.
The use of passive language here is interesting. He âfoundâ himself at the library, almost as if he didnât actively choose to go there, but instead was drawn or lured there. And he finds himself there at 7. Why did sarah tell us the time here of all places? Because the time matters. And that just so happens to be the time the priestesses started singing in chapter 52 (which would occur just before 7 here because the sun sets earliest on solstice). So gwyn would have started singing just before Azriel found himself at the library.
This seems like a big hint that he was lured there by gwynâs singing.
đĄAfter he arrives at the library, he asks Clotho to give Gwyn the necklace, and the scene closes with this:
We have a lot of language suggesting lightsingers here. Something âsparkedâ in azrielâs chest. How Gwynâs eyes might âlightâ upon seeing the necklace. The image âglowedâ quietly deep inside him. Did sarah specifically choose these words to hint to us that Gwyn has lured him? Does the image âglowâ because a lightsinger lured him into seeing the image?
I also think itâs important that he sees an âimageâ here. If you read part one, youâll know that SJM uses the word âsummonâ to describe Gwynâs singing. And here are the definitions of âsummonâ:
âTo call an image to mind.â So did Gwyn summon this image to Azrielâs mind and cause him to see it, just like she appears to have summoned the vision of the harp to Nestaâs mind?
And again, we have passive language. âFor whatever reason...he could see it.â He doesnât understand why this image popped into his head or where it came from. And it seems to me thatâs because the image was PUT in his headâhe was lured into seeing it. So he doesnât understand why it popped into his head because he didnât think of it himself.
Finally, we have the last line. A thing of secret, lovely beauty. When Nesta first meets gwyn, she describes her as having a secret beneath her pretty face. Is this a nod to that line, and Gwynâs secretâthat sheâs a lightsinger? And her secret, lovely beauty comes from her being a lightsinger?
So what does this mean?
If this theory is right, and Gwyn did lure Az into bringing her the necklace, Iâm not sure why Gwyn lured him there.
Was it accidental because she doesnât know she is a lightsinger?
If it was purposeful, did someone make gwyn lure him?
And is there a reason she or they want the necklace?
Finally, is Koschei involved in this? And is he going to use Gwyn to try to lure Az to him, since it seem that Koschei wants Az (maybe to find the fourth trove thatâs hidden in the shadows?)?
Before I start, a bit of a caveat: this post is based on the theory that Gwyn is a lightsinger. I have made several previous posts about this, which you can read here, here, and here (among others) if you havenât already. I fully recognize that this is just a theory, and I might be totally wrong! And I also recognize that some of these interpretations are crack theories, and might not be correct interpretations of the text. Indeed, many of these passages have innocuous explanations too. But Iâm interpreting these scenes under the guise of Gwyn being a lightsinger. If sheâs not a lightsinger, then of course these interpretations are wrong.
Another caveat: I donât think Gwyn will be evil. I could see her being a lightsinger going several different ways. For example, I could see Azriel training her to use her powers, which will allow us to learn organically about his powers. I can also see a world in which Koschei is manipulating or controlling Gwyn to get to Azriel. But in this scenario, I fully believe that Gwyn will break the spell or stop it before itâs too late, and redeem herself.
But ultimately, I do think there is a lot of evidence that suggests Gwyn is a lightsinger, so I at this point think thereâs a good chance of it being true, and it will clearly be important to the plot of the next book in some way. This post is about analyzing that evidence. Iâm not going to get into any theories here about how I think Gwyn being a lightsinger might come into play in future books, or if Gwyn is even aware of her powers.
Also, this post is long!! Sorry!! But it analyzes every piece of evidence I have found in ACOSF proper that suggests gwyn might be a lightsinger, or that I think might be related to her lightsinger powers.
Anyways, if the Gwyn lightsinger theory isnât your thing, just scroll past.
đĄBefore we get into the passages that I think might be hinting at or related to Gwyn being a lightsinger, letâs briefly discuss what a lightsinger is.
When Cassian and Nesta are going to the bog of Oorid, Cassian describes two creatures who live there to Nesta: kelpies and lightsingers. Of course, we meet a kelpie in Oorid, but we do not meet a lightsinger. This is important. SJM is not like GRRM in her worldbuilding. Typically she does not mention things in the world unless they are going to be important or come back up. So the fact that we learn about lightsingers is a really big hint that weâre going to meet one at some point.
And hereâs what Cassian says about lightsingers:
âThere are lightsingers: lovely, ethereal beings who will lure you, appearing as friendly faces when you are lost. Only when youâre in their arms will you see their true faces, and they arenât fair at all. The horror of it is the last thing you see before they drown you in the bog. But they kill for sport, not food.â
So we know that lightsingers appear lovely and as friendly faces when someone is lost; they lure you; they have a true face that isnât fair at all; and they kill for sport not food.
Also, just as background and context for what Iâm going to discuss, here is the definition of âlureâ:
So to âlureâ means to tempt someone into doing something or going somewhere, and itâs synonyms include âentice,â âseduce,â âbewitch,â âensnare,â âcaptivate,â and âdraw.â As I think youâll see, SJM uses some of these words to describe Gwynâs song. And I think itâs also interesting that a lot of the synonyms of âlureâ have a magical element or a bewitching element.
I think itâs important to note that Cassian appears to be speaking of the legends of lightsingers, and itâs possible that not all of this is true about all lightsingers. And it also is very possible there is more to lightsingers that Cassian doesnât know.
I also want to briefly talk about the name âlightsinger.â As Cassian describes them, lightsingers sound a lot like sirens, which appeared as beautiful women to sailors and lured them with their songs before killing them. But SJM didnât call them sirens. She called them lightsingers. LIGHTsingers. This suggests to be that a lightsingerâs power is likely connected to singing and light, or maybe lightsingers can call to and manipulate the light like shadowsingers can shadows.
With that in mind, letâs look at the hints in the text about Gwyn.
đĄWe first meet Gwyn when she appears to Nesta in the library. Nesta is at quite a low at this point. She has convinced herself she is a monster; she is barely speaking with Cassian; and she is refusing to eat what the house provides her. She seems quite lost. And at this moment, Gwyn appears. When Nesta first sees her, this is part of what she describes:
High Fae, and yet ⊠Nesta couldnât explain the way she sensed that there was something else mixed into her. Some secret beneath the pretty face.
Nesta senses something different within Gwyn, that sheâs something other than a high fae. I think that this âsomething elseâ is that Gwyn is a lightsinger. And the âsecret beneath her pretty faceâ is hinting at Gwynâs secret heritage and also the face that Gwyn might have an actual secret beneath her pretty faceâa lightsinger form.
đĄNesta and Gwyn have a conversation, and at one point Nesta observes:
The priestess drew up to her full height, which was slightly taller than average for Fae females. A crackling sort of energy buzzed around her, and Nestaâs power grumbled in answer.
Nesta notes that Gwyn is taller than average, maybe because of her lightsinger heritage?
And then Nesta describes that a âcrackling sort of energy buzzed around [Gwyn], and Nestaâs power grumbled in answer.â This line clearly hints that Gwyn has some sort of power, and the use of the world âcracklingâ brings lightning and electricity and fire to mind, all things which are related to light. And the fact that Nestaâs power grumbles in answer suggests that it recognizes the power in Gwyn, and maybe sees her as a threat. I certainly think this means that Gwyn is quite powerful for Nestaâs power to react like that.
đĄWhile Gwyn and Nesta are speaking, two priestesses appear to be watching from the floor above.
Gwyn tracked the focus of her attention. âThatâs Roslin and Deirdre.â âHow can you tell?â With their hoods on, they appeared nearly identical save for their hands. âTheir scents,â Gwyn said simply, and turned to the books sheâd left on the cart.
This is a crack theory, but how in the hell can Gwyn smell the priestesses a floor above enough to identify them? I think Gwyn might have better smell than average high fae because of her lightsinger blood.
đĄWhen theyâre done talking, Nesta says that Gwyn disappears, and she notes:
Quiet settled around her, as if Gwyn had been a summer storm that blew in and evaporated within a moment. Sighing, Nesta gathered the books Gwyn had left on the cart.
I just thought this imagery was interesting. Lightsingers appear when youâre lost. And how Nesta describes Gwyn here, as if she was a summer storm that just blew in and evaporated, suggests to me that Gwyn just appeared and disappeared at will. Itâs almost like Nesta wonders if Gwyn was a dream. And maybe she did just appear when Nesta was lost and needed her, and then she disappeared when their conversation was done.
đĄIn a later scene, the scene when Gwyn tells Nesta that she canât find a book for Merrill, Nesta is in the library when Gwyn appears again:
Nesta pivoted to discover Gwyn striding swiftly toward her, arms laden with books and coppery hair shimmering in the dim light.
Gwynâs hair might be shimmering here because of the light, but I also wonder if her hair is shimmering because Gwyn is using her powers here, and that she lures Nesta into helping find the book for Merrill:
Nesta didnât know why she did it. Why she waited until no one was around before she said into the hushed air of the library, âCan you do me a favor?â
This language is very passiveââNesta didnât know why she did it.â This made me wonder if Nesta actually doesnât know why she did it, because she was lured into doing it by Gwyn. This language also seems similar to the language in the last few paragraphs of the bonus chapter, when Azriel found himself at the library, and âfor whatever reason...he could see [the image of Gwyn].â
đĄAfter Nesta takes the book to Merrill, she goes to find Gwyn:
Across the hushed, cavernous space, it was easy to hear Gwynâs soft singing as she flitted from table to table, looking at the piles of discarded books. Trying desperately to find the missing tome. The words of Gwynâs merry song were in a language Nesta didnât know, but for a heartbeat, Nesta allowed herself to listenâto savor the pure, sweet voice that rose and fell with sinuous ease. Gwynâs hair seemed to glow brighter with her song, skin radiating a beckoning light. Drawing any listener in. But Merrillâs warning clanged through the beauty of Gwynâs voice, and Nesta cleared her throat. Gwyn whirled toward her, glow fading even as her freckled face lit with surprise. âHello again,â she said.
This is the first scene we get that has overt lightsinger hints. As Gwyn sings, her hair âglows brighterâ and her skin âradiat[es] a beckoning light.â Gwyn glows when she sings. And that light beckons, âdrawing any listener in.â
As we know from above, âdrawâ is a synonym of âlure.â And here are the definitions of âbeckonâ:
So âbeckonâ means to encourage someone to come near, or to summon them. Like Gwyn is calling to Nesta to come near, or enticing her. And âlureâ is one of its synonyms, of course harkening back to cassianâs original description of lightsingers.
Then, when Gwyn stops singing, her glow fades. So the glowing is connected to her singing.
đĄWe have another scene where Gwyn sings when Nesta goes to the library one day after she learns about the Dread Trove:
âWhat do you know of the Dread Trove?â âThe what?â Gwyn turned from the desk where Nesta had found the priestess singing softly to herself, situated just outside Merrillâs shut office door. âThe Dread Trove,â Nesta said, wincing at her sore bodyâs protestations as she took a seat on the edge of Gwynâs desk. âThree ancient artifacts âŠâ
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She didnât mention Queen Briallyn, or Koschei, or the Cauldron. Only that the Trove must be found quickly. And that Gwyn should not mention it to anyone. Nesta supposed that in doing so, she directly disobeyed Rhysâs order for silence, but ⊠to hell with him. When she was done, Gwyn was wide-eyed, her face so pale that her freckles stood out in stark relief. âAnd you must find it?â
Nesta comes upon Gwyn when she is singing, and she immediately proceeds to tell Gwyn about the Dread Trove after Rhys expressly told Nesta she couldnât tell anyone about it. While thereâs no mention of Gwyn glowing here, I canât help but wonder if Gwyn lured Nesta into telling her about the Trove here. And thatâs why Nesta disobeyed Rhysâs order without hesitation.
đĄGwyn eventually explains her heritage to Nesta (or what Gwyn believes is her heritage). But this description appears to have several hints that Gwyn might be a lightsinger.
âMy grandmother was a river-nymph who seduced a High Fae male from the Autumn Court. So Iâm a quarter nymph, but itâs enough for this.â Gwyn gestured to her large eyesâblue so clear it could have been the shallow seaâand her lithe body. âMy bones are slightly more pliant than ordinary High Faeâs, but who cares about that?â
Gwyn tells Nesta that her grandmother was a river nymph who seduced a High Fae from Autumn. But is it possible that Gwynâs grandmother was actually a lightsinger, and that she lured Gwynâs grandfather rather than just seduced him? I do think itâs not a coincidence that one of the synonyms of âlureâ is âseduce.â So lightsingers likely can seduce others.
Then there are Gwynâs eyes. Itâs interesting because the water wraiths weâve met do not have teal eyes, but black eyes. Could Gwynâs eyes also be a part of her lightsinger heritage?
And finally, Gwyn utters this seemingly random fact about her pliable bones. While this seems random, I think her bones might be more pliant so that she can shift into her siren or lightsinger form.
đĄThen we have Chapter 52, when Nesta attends the singing service. This scene is full of hints that suggest Gwyn is a lightsinger:
Nesta could only gape at the lovely melody, the voices from the front of the cavern leading it, lifting higher than the others. Gwyn sang, chin high, a faint glow seeming to radiate from her. The music was pure, ancient, by turns whispering and bold, one moment like a tendril of mist, the next like a gilded ray of light. It finished, and Merrill spoke about the Mother and the Cauldron and the land and sun and water. She spoke of blessings and dreams and hope. Of mercy and love and growth. Nesta half-heard it, waiting for the sound, the perfect, beautiful sound, to begin again. Gwyn seemed to be shimmering with pride and contentedness.
Again, more light and glowing as Gwyn sings. A glow radiates from Gwyn when she sings, and she shimmers with pride and contentedness.
Gwynâs voice soared like a bird through the cavern as she started the third song with a solo, and Nesta closed her eyes, leaning into the music, shutting out one sense in order to luxuriate in the sound of her friend. Something beckoned in Gwynâs song, in a way the othersâ hadnât. Like Gwyn was calling only to her, her voice full of sunshine and joy and unshakable determination. Nesta had never heard a voice like Gwynâsâby turns trained and wild, as if there was so much sound fighting to break free of Gwyn that she couldnât quite contain it all. As if the sound needed to be loose in the world.
And again, Gwynâs song is described as luring. Something âbeckonedâ in her song, like Gwyn was âcalling only to Nesta.â Again with the use of âbeckoning,â a synonym of âlureâ.
Gwynâs voice rose again, holding such a high note it was like a ray of pure light, piercing and summoning. Two other voices rolled in to join, pulsing around that repeated high note, the harp still strumming, voices whispering and flowing, lulling Nesta down, down, down into a pure, ancient place where no outside world existed, no time, nothing but the music in her bones, the stones at her feet, her side, overhead. The music took form behind Nestaâs eyes as the priestesses sang lyrics in languages so old, no one voiced them anymore. She saw what the song spoke of: mossy earth and golden sun, clear rivers and the deep shadows of an ancient forest. The harp strummed, and mountains rolled ahead, as if a veil had been cleared with the stroke of those strings, and she was flying toward itâtoward a massive, mist-veiled mountain, the land barren save for moss and stones and a gray, stormy sea around it. The mountain itself held two peaks at its very top, and the stones jutting from its sides were carved in strange, ancient symbols, as old as the song itself.
And more light and luring language. Gwynâs voice is like a ray of âpure lightâ piercing and âsummoning.â And in this part of the scene, Nesta does appear to be lured by the song. It âlullsâ her down deep into an ancient place where Nesta sees a vision.
And the choice of the word âsummoningâ here is an interesting one. Here are the definitions of âsummonâ:
Summon means âto call an image to mindâ. And here, Nesta is seeing images. So it appears that Gwyn has summoned these images in Nestaâs mind, and caused her to have this vision.
And âlullâ means:
I think SJM is using the term âlullâ a little more broadly here than these definitions suggest, though. I think lull here means more like âsendâ, so like how âlullâ means to send to sleep, but with a bewitching or entrancing aspect, here Gwyn and her music is sending or entrancing Nesta down into her mind to have this vision.
Nestaâs body melted away, her bones and the stones of the cavern a distant memory as she flowed into the mountain, beheld towering, carved gates, and passed through them into a darkness so complete it was primordial; darkness that was full of living things, terrible things. A path led into the dark, and she followed it, past doors with no handles, sealed forever. She felt horrors lurk behind those doors, one horror greater than the othersâa being of mist and hatredâbut the song led her past them all, invisible and unmarked. This place was utterly lethal. A place of suffering and rage and death. Her very soul quaked to wander its halls. And even though she had passed by the door keeping her safe from that one being more horrible than all the rest ⊠she knew it watched her. She refused to look back, to acknowledge it. So Nesta drifted down and down, the harp and the voices pulsing and guiding, until she stopped before a rock.
That vision continues above, and Nesta notes that she is âguidedâ in the vision by the harp and the voices. Again, a suggestion that the song is controlling this vision and Nestaâs journey in it.
There, in the center of the chamber, sat a small, golden harp. Cold leached through Nesta, clarifying her thoughts enough to realize where she stood. That the music of the priestesses had lulled her into a trance, that her own bones and the stone of the mountain surrounding her had been her scrying tools, and she had drifted to this place ⊠The Harp gleamed in the darkness, as if it possessed its own sun within the metal and strings. Play me, it seemed to whisper. Let me sing again. Join your voice with mine. Her hand reached toward the strings. Yes. The Harp sighed, a low purr rolling off it as Nestaâs hand neared. We shall open doors and pathways; we shall move through space and eons together. Our music will free us of earthly rules and borders. Yes. Sheâd play the Harp, and there would be nothing but music until the stars died out. Play. I have so long wished to play, it said, and she could have sworn she heard a smile within the sound. What might my song unlock in here? A cold, humorless laugh skittered along Nestaâs bones. It sang again, Play, playâ The song halted, and the vision shattered.
This passage confirms again that the music has âlulledâ Nesta into having this vision. And when the song stops, the vision shatters with it.
I donât really know how you can read Chapter 52 and not come away convinced that Gwyn is a lightsinger, and that she lured Nesta into having a vision of the harp. It is the strongest evidence of the lightsinger theory, and Iâm not sure what other explanation of Gwynâs powers, or of what happens in Chapter 52, that there might be.
đĄAnd finally, there is one last scene that I think hints at Gwyn being a lightsinger in ACOSF. It takes place during the blood rite, when Emerie and Nesta are asking Gwyn how she survived:
âHowâd you avoid the creatures climbing up to eat you?â Emerie asked Gwyn, who was wedged between her and Nesta. âThey were pulling Illyrians off the branches like apples.â âMaybe because I donât smell like an Illyrian,â Gwyn said, frowning at her clothes. âDespite these.â She nodded to Nesta. âYou donât, either. If weâre lucky, our scents will mask Emerieâs.â
What if the creatures climbing the trees avoided Gwyn because she smells like a lightsinger, a creature that the creatures in the trees would fear? Ultimately, I just think that part of the reason Gwyn was able to survive the blood rite for two days until Nesta and Emerie found her is because sheâs a lightsinger.
if you don't like the lightsinger theory...scroll past. bye.
so awhile back I made a post about the "glowed quietly" part in the Azriel's bonus chapter.
Clotho's pen moved once more. She deserves something as beautiful as this. I thank you for the joy it shall bring to her. Something sparked in Azriel's chest, but he only nodded his thanks and left. He could picture it, though, as he ascended the stairs back to the House proper. How Gwyn's teal eyes might light upon seeing the necklace. For whatever reason⊠he could see it. But Azriel tucked away the thought, consciously erasing the slight smile it brought to his face. Buried the image down deep, where it glowed quietly.
Because why something glowing would glow quietly as if it is emitting some kind of sound? and as you can see the image is the glowing thing. and what is in the image? Gwyn's eyes "light upon" seeing the necklace.....normally a person's eyes lighting up from joy is totally normal but the person is gwyn(!). Girl glows when she is singing. (I added my glow = power in there) and at the same chapter one of azriel's shadows danced with her breath as if it heard some "silent music".
"How was the party?" Her breath curled in front of her mouth, and one of his shadows darted out to dance with it before twirling back to him. Like it heard some silent music.
so that light upon is pretty sus to me. so me being me went to look up synonyms of light up. I found this.
radiate.
you are gonna ask why I took this meaning of it....it is because "glowed quietly"
Clotho's pen moved once more. She deserves something as beautiful as this. I thank you for the joy it shall bring to her. Something sparked in Azriel's chest, but he only nodded his thanks and left. He could picture it, though, as he ascended the stairs back to the House proper. How Gwyn's teal eyes might light upon seeing the necklace. For whatever reason⊠he could see it. But Azriel tucked away the thought, consciously erasing the slight smile it brought to his face. Buried the image down deep, where it glowed quietly.
lemme explain. azriel can "picture" gwyn's eyes "light up" and it is that "image" that he burries and that "image" glows...it "glows quietly" as if it is emitting/radiating some kind of sound.
so I'm taking that meaning into consideration here.
that's all. thanks for reading. (all the other lightsinger posts are linked in my pinned post you can find them there)
thanks to @silverlinedeyes for her help to get me see the right meaning bc my english does not english sometimes. đ also If you want to read about gwyn is a lightsinger theory  @silverlinedeyes made wonderful posts about it. >> part1 part2
In the Throne of Glass series, Rowan was convinced from the moment he first laid eyes on Lyria that she was his mate. He believed that for centuries and every day since, even after falling in love with Aelin.
However, in the end, it was all a trick orchestrated by Maeve to turn him into her servant. What if thatâs what went on with Lucien, Elain and The King of Hybern.
What if the King of Hybern (who we all know is NOT an idiot) saw how faltering Lucienâs loyalty to Tamlin was becoming and how dangerous that could be to him during the war, but couldnât risk killing Lucien and ruining the alliance with Tamlin and The Spring Court. So, as a way to ensure Lucienâs loyalty, he tricked him into believing that Elain was his mate, because he never expected her to get away with the rest of The Court of Dreams at the end of ACOMAF. He expected to have Elain locked away at his side (as she temporarily is in ACOWAR) with Lucien right there, ready to do anything for The King as long as he didnât harm her.
The King of Hybern had The Cauldron. He broke an unbreakable bond, turned humans into high fae, destroyed the entire wall in the blink of an eye and he almost cleaved the world apart with it. Creating an elaborate illusion is certainly not beyond him.
It would also explain why Lucien, despite always being concerned with Elianâs safety, wasnât hesitant about leaving her at The Night Court when he left for The Continent. In fact, when he returned, he didnât even ask about her or try and find her in the middle of a deadly battle where she could be in serious harm. In fact, Elain shows little to no interest in him at all. She is simply indifferent to him.
If Lucien was not Elainâs mate but Azriel was, it would also explain why Azriel was so quick to take a liking to her. He was supposedly in love with Mor for five hundred years, but if both Elain and Mor were in the same room, his attention would always be directed towards Elain. Even Mor noticed it and pointed it out herself.
Elain trusted Azriel enough to not fear him, even though she knew exactly what and who he was, and exactly how dangerous he could be. She was never scared of him. Oh, and hereâs the real kicker, Azriel gave her Turthteller. Remember, that weapon that he has never so much as let anyone touch, not even his high lord, not even his brothers or the woman he supposedly loves? He handed it over to her despite barely knowing her.
Maybe itâs just me. Maybe I find Azriel and Elain as a couple makes more sense to me then Elain and Lucien together, and perhaps I think Azriel and Elain have much better chemistry. However, there were way too many hints and clues pointing towards Elriel, and we all know SJMaas does not just do that for no reason. They could be each otherâs temporary romantic interest, but theyâve both had theyâre hearts broken by the person they believed they were meant to be with.
So maybe this isnât a crazy theory, and maybe they are mates. Weâll just have to wait and see.