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GOD BLESS FINALLY ANOTHER MOGAIBLR / EDITBLR BLOG THAT DOESN'T SUPPORT GOOD FAITH LABELS!!! RAGH I felt like I was the only one

~ idxlisms

(There's no specific purpose to this ask I'm just happy I'm not alone X3 )

FRL 🙏🙏 IM DEAD BUT I STILL SEE ASKS

#i got called the n word w) the hard r in asks after this

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turian coiner literally supports turigirls. stop being illiterate

? Im not turian im a diff sexuality

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what are ur thoughts on why radical inclusionism is harmful and/or do u have any resources on the subject? im interested in learning more about the pov

sorry for this taking so long! school has been taking a lot out of me. thank you for your patience! i've put my full response under a cut as to not clog dashes.

first off, i want to very clearly establish that i am not in any way talking about inclusion itself as a concept. being against radical inclusionism does not mean i'm for exclusionism as a blanket statement--again, i'm not against inclusionism itself, i'm against the very specific radinclus movement.

honestly, I totally understand why radinclus people think the way they do. it's a very easy rabbit hole to go down, and on a surface level, the concept of "including all good-faith identities" sounds fantastic. the problem comes when you look into what a lot of that really means.

defining it as "good-faith identities" means that if someone says they are identifying as something in good faith, you have no right to criticize them. i've seen it play out more than a few times--take people who are transabled or transrace, or identities that are inherently bigoted ("afab trans woman", for example). the very basic premise of radical inclusionism removes the suggestion of critical thought ("who is affected by this? is there harm coming from someone saying this?") and makes a person's inclusion in the community hinge on accepting everything told to them at face value.

this is not coming out of nowhere. i'm not going to block evade to get a few examples i'd like to because i'm not an asshole but the gist of it is "what right do we have to dictate anyone else's experience, just trust what people say they are". again, on the surface this sounds fine, but if you look a little deeper into some of the things that people who say this support, it becomes evident that there's a nasty correlation going on.

most evidently, it leaks into ableism. the venn diagram between radical inclusionists and people who treat mental illness like a fun game (aka endos, which is a whole other thing i'm not going to get into rn, and """transabled""" people*) is pretty much a circle, and it all connects (from what i've seen) to the single biggest problem with radinclusionism: it actively discourages critical thought. like i said above, radical inclusionism punishes those who dare to be "exclusionists" (criticize any part of any "good faith identity") with ostracization from their peers.

it also discourages looking at actual queer history or talking to people with experience to make your decisions. instead of asking for unbiased sources and talking to those around you, radical inclusionism shoves the idea of criticizing "good faith identities" being evil down your throat. if you ask for hard medical scientific sources when someone claims that they're a system without trauma so that you can review the evidence and make your own independent decision, you're discounting people's lived experiences. same goes for if you talk to someone affected outside of the group and ask how they feel about mspec lesbians or afab trans women and learn their opinion and then go back to the group and ask them to account for or respond to it.

they push the narrative that you're not using your resources and learning about science and history and figuring out your own stances through critical thought, you're perpetrating an exclusionist mindset and discounting "good faith identities".

not that you'd be able to see opinions outside the group's--it's a very, very tight echo chamber, with almost no chance of a dissuading opinion getting through in a way that isn't in the tone of a "get a load of this guy cam". who would want to interact with a nasty exclusionist, after all?

instead, i propose informed inclusionism. inclusionism that encourages critical thinking and discussion. inclusionism that advocates for talking to those around you as well as looking at historical and scientific sources as appropriate to make decisions. inclusionism that lets you take stock of the harm that some so-called "good faith identities" can cause, and that discourages you from turning a blind eye in the name of inclusionism when someone says how they are affected by said identities.

in order to become truly tolerant, you must be intolerant of intolerance. and, most importantly, you must know how to spot intolerance when it is disguised as tolerance. this requires critical thought that radinclus philosophy not only goes against, but actively punishes.

i hope this has helped you understand where i'm coming from better! again, thank you for your patience, this took a while to type out and edit and i've been very busy lately. if you have any questions, feel free to ask! i'll get to them as soon as i can.

note: this really doesn't seem to be an issue that a lot of people are talking about, which is interesting, and a reason there aren't more resources on this. i searched and searched, but couldn't really find much if anything that expressed this viewpoint. i honestly would have thought that there'd be more of a pushback against radinclus philosophy especially with how much tumblr tends to emphasize the need for critical thought, but i guess not. hopefully this can help create a space for dialogue + discussion in an area that sorely needs it! ^^ *i'm fully aware that biid is in and of itself a disability. someone being disabled in one form does not stop them from being ableist to those with another disability. if someone with biid identifies as transabled to being an amputee, that is ableist towards amputees. you cannot identify into a disability.

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hello i also hate turigirls and lesboys thank you for the hard work soldier 🫡

YOURE WELCOME POOKS /PLAT lmk if u dont like being called that

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tfw you disrespect the identity of multiple people and choose to further divide the community

— 🎀🍰 · · · Vi love being safequeer ^_^

#again im multigender #shrugs

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if you killed yourself nobody would miss you

damn thats a new one!! thx nonnie <33

#will be laughing about this with my husband later #tw death threats #death threats #cw death threats #tagging js in case :shrug: #(( 🍓 )) : inbox #╭╯﹕🌙﹒The Goddess Talks﹕₊˚ ☆

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what’s up with all the haters lmao

honestly idk either they js come & attack me bc i think lesboys and shit are utter nonsense that shouldnt be considered valid

#someone asked me why i 'wanted to appeal to queerphobes' i do not ^_^ #idk what theyre doing anyway im barely active on here #(( 🍓 )) : inbox #╭╯﹕🌙﹒The Goddess Talks﹕₊˚ ☆

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tfw you hate multigender people and dont know history

im multigender :shrug:

#╭╯﹕🌙﹒The Goddess Talks﹕₊˚ ☆ #♡♡♡ #(( 🍓 )) : inbox #endos and supporters dni #anti lesboy #anti turigirl #anti mspec mono #anti radinclus #aemogai #safequeer

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tfw you disrespect the identity of multiple people and choose to further divide the community

— 🎀🍰 · · · Vi love being safequeer ^_^

#╭╯﹕🌙﹒The Goddess Talks﹕₊˚ ☆ #(( 🍓 )) : inbox #— 🎀🍰 · · · Quite honestly I giggled at this ask #♡♡♡ #endos and supporters dni #anti lesboy #anti turigirl #anti mspec mono #anti radinclus #aemogai #safequeer

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YAY!!! IM SO GLAD THIS BLOG IS GNA COME BACK :3

— 🎀🍰 · · · The Goddess is very glad too 、Vi thank you for the support !! ♡ 〜

#╭╯﹕🌙﹒The Goddess Talks﹕₊˚ ☆ #(( 🍓 )) : inbox #♡♡♡ #endos and supporters dni #anti lesboy #anti turigirl #anti mspec mono #safequeer #aemogai #anti radinclus

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— 🎀🍰 · · · Hello my lovely fans ! The Goddess has vv exciting news for you all (^_^) Vi saw that people actually like Vy work so Vi've become a bit more motivated 02 make xenogenders again ! Mainly charic genders 、 Vi may occasionally make others ! But no more icons sorry ... theyre vv draining 。 && Vi may not be as quick as usual with posting 、 because Vi have a vv busy life now && a partner sys that we talk to daily 、 but if you guys want feel free to send in positivity && charic requests !! ♡ 〜

♡ Ma1dthing -> Cutesyfrills ♡

#╭╯﹕🌙﹒The Goddess Talks﹕₊˚ ☆ #♡♡♡ #endos and supporters dni #anti lesboy #anti turigirl #anti mspec mono #safequeer #aemogai #anti radinclus

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can you do Burgertron Gay Icons (Transformers: BotBots)

— 🎀🍰 · · · Unfortunately 、 The Goddess will not be taking any requests at the moment .. as Vi am on hiatus 、&& Vi'm also not too familiar with that source ... sorry ! ૮ ◞ ﻌ ◟ ა

#╭╯﹕🌙﹒The Goddess Talks﹕₊˚ ☆ #(( 🍓 )) : inbox #(( 🍫 )) : request denied #♡♡♡ #endos and supporters dni #anti lesboy #anti turigirl #anti mspec mono #safequeer #aemogai

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hi !! I just wanted to ask if I am still allowed to request, as I am a dsmp IRL ! I do not at all support my source in any way, and I am actually two of the more not problematic creators so! I just wanted to ask

— 🎀🍰 · · · You would be yes ! But The Goddess won't be talking reqs anymore though .. as Vi am on hiatus . But Vi thank you for being so polite about it !! ૮꒰ྀི∩´ ᵕ `∩꒱ྀིა ♡ 〜

#╭╯﹕🌙﹒The Goddess Talks﹕₊˚ ☆ #(( 🍓 )) : inbox #♡♡♡ #endos and supporters dni #anti lesboy #anti turigirl #anti mspec mono #safequeer #aemogai

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Hey can you please stop using the aemogai tag? We (the aemogai community) support mspec lesbians/gays, turigirls/lesboys, etc which is on your dni

Anti-endo mogai and aemogai are 2 different things

Hopefully this doesn't come off rude

— 🎀🍰 · · · The Goddess doesn't post anymore .. so Vi guess ? But that just doesn't make very much sense to ve 、 since aemogai seems to just be an abbreviation of anti — endo mogai 、 so how would they be two different things if one is just an abbreviation (★﹏★ ) ? (( /genq /nbr ♡ ))

#╭╯﹕🌙﹒The Goddess Talks﹕₊˚ ☆ #(( 🍓 )) : inbox #♡♡♡ #endos and supporters dni #anti lesboy #anti turigirl #anti mspec mono #safequeer #aemogai

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idk if you'll see this but if you do, what's a permanent hiatus ? like, you're not gonna be posting on here anymore ?

— 🎀🍰 · · · The Goddess won't be making edits anymore 、 basically quitting 。 But Vi can still answer asks ! 〜

#╭╯﹕🌙﹒The Goddess Talks﹕₊˚ ☆ #(( 🍓 )) : inbox #♡♡♡ #endos and supporters dni #anti lesboy #anti turigirl #anti mspec mono #safequeer #aemogai

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hey... can people use ur genders if they fit under ur dni (as long as they dont tell you obvs)

i identify with some of ur things and i dont want to use ur genders without asking

if ur not comfortable with that, can i coin a vers for myself? /gq

sorry if these asks make you uncomfortable. if so, ignore me and delete this. /gen

— 🎀🍰 · · · Vi can't really stop anyone from identifying with vy genders ! As long as they do not inform The Goddess of it 、 they are okay 。

#(( 🎀 )) : the maid speaks #(( 🍓 )) : inbox #endos and supporters dni #anti lesboy #anti turigirl #anti mspec mono #safequeer #aemogai

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— 🎀🍰 · · · Breaking hiatus really quickly 02 say that Vi do not support lesboys && turigirls 、 mspec lesbians / gays 、 gaybians 、 straightbians 、 bi / pan lesbians or whatever else they call themselves 。

#╭╯﹕🌙﹒The Goddess Talks﹕₊˚ ☆ #♡♡♡ #endos and supporters dni #anti lesboy #anti turigirl #anti mspec mono #safequeer #aemogai