#wrt to the rest of the companions i landed on shadowheart and lae'zel being the most Necessary ones

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woke up thinking about the narrative use of astarion & how weird it is that his personal quest doesn't tie into the main narrative At All bc something is wrong with me, etc

ftr, i'm saying all of this as a bigtime astarion fan. love this guy. i keep romancing him and it's begun to feel like a cry for help. And Also, @ larian it's really fucking weird that you made a guy who doesn't tie into the plot at all

i'm putting the rest of this under a readmore. also i'm maintagging this mostly just for being able to find it later, if anybody wants to come @ me then pls know i basically never engage w/ tumblr and you'll probably be disappointed.

best i have for a real justification is that astarion exists in part for players who want to be Evil And Fucked Up. none of the other companions are fully down with using the tadpole powers or trying to take over the cult. and it is genuinely good to have a companion who gives you that option! if players who wanted to explore the fucked up options had complete disapproval from every companion, it would be kinda feelbad and make those options feel less like a real choice you're allowed to make.

why does that matter re: astarion being entirely detached from the main narrative? thank you for asking. it means that "guy who is down for being fucked up and taking over the cult" doesn't come across as secretly being in league with the bad guys the whole time. astarion having no link to ketheric, orin, or gortash means that his power play ideas don't make you suspicious that he's been lying to you and is just waiting to deliver you to the Chosen.

to be clear: still weird that he has no direct tie-in. but this is the best reason i could think of for why he'd be so completely not involved.

the other Point Of Him, i think, is for The Dark Urge. it's no secret that astarion is a killer parallel for durge. i'm not gonna go into that but goddamn, i love it.

and if we're looking at things from the durge perspective, i think it kinda works for astarion to be so detached. he then becomes Random Baldurian Affected By Durge's Actions and it adds more strength to him also functioning as a piece of nuance for the tadpoles. he's the only one who directly benefits from the tadpoles existing! and that on its own is a cool bit of narrative. i think the durge side of things makes astarion's narrative tie in just a bit more. we've now got Dude Who Was Saved By Player Character (Albeit Unintentionally). i think it adds more depth to the durge narrative, and if the dark urge was the only non-origin option and tav didn't exist, i think it makes astarion's lack of narrative relevance a bit less glaring.

tldr; useful for the guy who's down to be fucked up to not be involved with the villains At All so you don't get suspicious of him and the option to be fucked up feels like more of a real option

(also tasty durge & astarion narrative depth)

#bg3 #bg3 meta #astarion #still weird. can't emphasize this enough. #i'm a major astarion fan and still @ larian what's up with this guy #i think i'm onto smth with having him as the If You Wanna Be Fucked Up narrative support #and i really do think it makes sense for him to not have any possibility of being secretly involved with the Chosen #still weird but that feels like it might be the real reason #i'm rly tired btw so possible i'm less of a genius than i think i am #fr woke up and almost immediately started thinking about this #wrt to the rest of the companions i landed on shadowheart and lae'zel being the most Necessary ones #wyll adds reason to care about ravenguard and also ansur #karlach ties into wyll and gives more gortash narrative #never thought about it much before but gale is actually v similar to astarion #his quest ties into the narrative but he as a character does not #you could remove gale and lose nothing from the actual plot narrative #the fact that his quest ties in makes him in a whole other category than astarion ofc #but he doesn't actually leave a hole like the others do #though tbh karlach is the next easiest to remove #she adds to wyll and to gortash but mostly she is uninvolved w/ the bigger narrative #wyll should rly get more attention from larian given that he's the guy who gives u reason to care about the Baldurian side of the narrative #the duke is def helped by wyll being around #but the most necessary and narratively useful are absolutely shadowheart and lae'zel #shadowheart has the artifact. could you just find it on your own or have it Appear somehow? sure. but she makes it infinitely less clumsy. #also the Entire thing w/ aylin #rly the whole shadowlands thing would lose a lot w/o shadowheart #and lae'zel is your Singular connection to the githyanki #it isn't *necessary* but you lose quite a bit of Giving A Shit About Orpheus which is y'know #i would say pretty important #none of this is me saying any of these companions are therefore Better than the others btw