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incarnateirony · 5 years
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To confused Supernatural fraaands joining pillowfort
Making a “how not to get lost” tutorial. I know a new social platform can be really intimidating, and I'm getting a lot of people flocking in from tumblr, sending DMs asking questions -- and no, that's not a sign to stop, I just recognize there's a lot of questions I can give you a masterpost to share to your confused friends!
Included is: how and where to find people and content, maximize your reach and impact, how to actually use the interface to its best capacity, what bugs to expect, how to talk to the staff and suggest new features, dos, donts, and how-tos.
Pillowfort tutorials and stuff exist, and I'll link those in a bit, but I can not emphasize enough how important it is to find the right communities for you as a base line to start. So, have a list of the biggest Supernatural communities and a few not-huge-ones that may still tickle certain fancies.
Supernatural: show, cast, and ship positive
Destiel: Take a wild guess what the comm is for
ProfoundNet: The PB/Destiel server related, I dunno how much they upkeep it at a glance but everybody seems to stay in touch.
SupernaturalArtsAndFics -  All ships, all cast, don’t be a dick is the rule there.
DeanWinchesterIsBisexual
And lo, though I hate promoting it I will be fair, there’s The_Wincest_Community  and just “Wincest” - the members and content seems pretty identical.
There’s an SPN NSFW Art group too -
Castiel fangroup
SPN Multishippers group
SPN Reverse bang
SPN Fanart,
Destiel Fan Favorites Survey Community
Cockles
After here, groups keep getting smaller and are all like… 30 people or less, I’m stopping centralized listing at the 30-mark. And right now, small groups still have a chance to boom once more people migrate across. But this is where you can start to find MOST of your people at.
You can search the community feature for smaller, related communities. Hell, there’s a Drowley community with 7 members right now. A Sabriel , a Sastiel. Etc. There’s a bunch of fractal J2 hat groups that have like 3-10 people, one has like 20. Any time I try to search J2M I’m getting a nightmare deluge of unrelated results and freeze when I click to page 2 to find something relevant. The Team Free Will group looks young and may end up redundant on a feed, only time will tell. Actor based groups seem… smaller. There’s a J2 Fanart group, but not one for them independently. 17 members. There’s a misha group called Mishapocalypse . So that’s still needing to get built up over there all-around.
For what it’s worth, I tried to paste a few together:
Right now, Supernatural Meta has 19 members. You don't have to be a meta author to join.
Annnnd I just put together a “The Brothers - Sam and Dean”place to enjoy non-shippy talk, content and conversation about the brothers. Just forage up the rules and roll.
And I have a Bobo Appreciation club I just launched but the site is in lag-mode and I don’t have the will to find the link.
Disclaimer: I’m just going with the biggest groups I’ve seen. I have not personally investigated all of these. I can’t say I’m necessarily endorsing all of these as awesome places or whatever, but it’s a place to START on a new platform. And before I get a concern troll asking why I linked a Wincest group, whether we like it or not, Wincest is here. It’s not the biggest ship, it’s not the cleanest ship, it’s not the - whatever. I don’t agree with it, most of my followers don’t agree with it, but lots of fans are multishippers, are scattered abroad, and frankly… now is not the time to be separated bitching over our differences.
Now  a short bit about what communities are GOOD FOR and why I endorse them so much.
See, when you join a community, you get subscribed to all posts going through that community, whether you follow the individual or not. If you fear a community will give content you don't want to see, blacklist the tag on the sidebar under Filters & Blacklist and, if someone just utterly fails to tag their trash you don't want to see, there's always the block function. If a community has more bad than good for you, maybe try to find another, or make your own. There's lots.
But that said, it helps us find each other and content while this platform is young. If you post, say, to the Supernatural group, several hundred people get your post blasted across their feed, presuming you aren't using a tag they blacklisted. It keeps feeds active and keeps us from climbing into holes we lose information in. And, frankly, gives even the smallest account a chance to be seen by the world.
Okay cool, you've found a few communities, there's posts on your feed, you know where to start chattering and finding people, so how does this work past THAT?
Well, first there's a few realistic messages from early beta users and devs about the platform worth reading.
A sort-of masterpost of tutorials and how-tos.
Where to find the beta community, make a wishlist of features to suggest to the devs, introduce yourself, find known issues, contact the staff, history, find other base cornerstone communities outside of fandom, tips, how-tos, you name it. REALLY USEFUL POST. MUST READ.
Realistic expectations for the client in beta.
How to jerry rig it to work as a mobile app with notifications.
In the area of visuals, if you're tired of the blue ... ocean that surrounds us while they refine their visual experiences, if you're on desktop, I made a series of SPN skins. Follow the instructions to install the skin of choice.
Sam Winchester - Vivid; Warm tones, mostly red
Rowena; Dark, black, violet, red.
Team Free Will - Dark; amber green blue slate
Sam & Dean - Earth tones, medium theme
Dean & Cas 1 - vivid; bright, blue/green
Dean & Cas 2 - dark, blue/green, slate, transparent side bar, feather head navbar.
The second Dean & Cas one is the most extensive. The first were quick generated slap-overs to get rid of the most persistent blinding elements, D&C2 I took it a few steps further. It’s lightly responsive with glows on link hovers, more image overlays tucked around quietly, wider use of gradients and color filled posts to match the theme, which the others don’t have. In time I’m going to see if I can start styling the divs themselves such as changing shape/align. Pretty sure I can. I’m weathered in the fires of RPH profile editing to make CSS do ridic stuff.
And yes, I take requests. I do it for free, right now at least. It’ll probably go obsolete. I don’t have a huge number of requests. So why not?
Keep in mind, there's some differences between pillowfort and tumblr, which most people are migrating from. Personally, I consider these HUGE improvements and steps forward once this place gets bigger. So let's do a breakdown, in complement to some of the resources I linked above.
So what makes Pillowfort so fucking special?
Okay, so check it out. On tumblr, we’re used to reblogging shit into the  depths of the internet. As Pillowfort grows it, too, has that capability with some differences. The boldest difference is that when you reblog, your opinion doesn’t get attached to the end of the post. It just reblogs the base post. Some people initially complained and thought that was the loss of a feature but came to realize it’s a blessing.
You see, that means someone can’t kidnap your post with a shitty opinion to reblog it to their friends with a shitty opinion that all attach their heckling shitty opinions. Like, let’s say it’s someone that’s Destiel fandom reading this. Ever had an anti shit reblog your post and it run wild? Well, now, if they try to reblog it, all they reblog is… your Destiel post. Thanks for that.
So how do we actually say what we need to?
Well, fam, it incorporated elements from LJ/DW, in having threaded replies. Multiple threads if so needed. The threaded replies are capable of housing just about anything an OP has. So a blog post has, alongside Like/Reblog notifications, comments. Open the post, read the comments, start an actual conversation with some merit. Did some douchebag come to spam your comments since they can’t reblog? No problem, delete their shitty comments and block them, problem solved.
But it doesn’t end there.
Double back to the stuff about communities I bragged up, above. Notice what all that gives you. Realize you can blog into/out of/across different communities.
When you make your own communities you can have internal discussions or blog in/out posts, you can set rules, promote moderators, remove or ban problem users, and generally control the flow of your community to keep out shitlords. But, if for example, you subscribed to a community that turns out to be secretly run BY a shitlord because, IDK, maybe they don’t like that you think Sam is bi or something, most of these communities are large and blog in/out/engageable enough that you won’t lose your contacts, you WILL find your people over time, and you won’t be completely choked off to a singular abyss.
So the base beat is
PF treats every single post like any root post on an LJ/DW comm, but is able to be reblogged from/to communities or your own blog page as freely as tumblr.  PF takes the best concepts of current and previous fandom platforms in its base application and lays a groundwork that literally all of us can prosper on if it survives and continues.
“I kinda like PF but it doesn’t have X feature-”
Okay look, PF is a smolbabe, like I said. It’s in beta. The thing is, they’re adding things every day. They have a dev list like 2 pages long for goals and things are getting crossed off and added like, biweekly. It might already be on their list to add. And if it’s not, guess what?
The staff actually give a shit and react to questions and concerns. There’s entire beta groups to talk about features with bugs, and/or features that should be added or adjusted. There’s a comm to talk directly to the staff about things. They're linked above in this post, and you can find them, leave what you want to see modified or added... boom! Help make this platform WHAT YOU WANT IT TO BE.
A small, young platform needs people willing to be out there saying what would improve the experience. You’re not just fandom pioneers, you’re social media pioneers if you so choose to be. It’s not mandatory. You can just fan in your space how you want. Or you can go to the beta groups and staff groups and tell them what you think would improve the experience.  Keep in mind, tumblr didn't start with all the bells and whistles it ended up with. It didn't start with a bazillion users. But some people put their toes in the water while others jumped in, and others stayed back for years until all their friends changed pools.
Hopefully this answers most questions, concerns, and wants for people tripping into Pillowfort from the fandoms I attend right now. If anything still confuses you -- don't be shy about making USE of the powerful differences. Pop open this post, leave a comment, hold a conversation and I'll help how I can.
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survivorgalaxysedge · 3 years
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Episode 8 | Can You Stop Pretending To Simp For Me? - Jules
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well THAT was embarrassing!!!! i'm a little / a lot sad right now because i feel like i had so much more to give to this game, so much i could've done if i had survived literally 10 more minutes - but that's the way the cookie crumbles! rooting so hard for mj and nobody else (that's a lie i also need to see my bbs zoe and jonathan fuck it upppp), and i'm glad i played even though i got did this dirty @ just missing merge and jury. anyway, peace out and see you on the other side of the moon <3
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Nathan is getting REALLLLLLLYYY cocky and it's gonna come back to bite him in the ass. He's expecting Jonathan will work with him after constantly lying to him and it's so exhausting to try and deal with him. Nathan came up with a plan to all swap our moons when we tell people, and that's fine, I like that idea. But I told him that I already told Jonathan my moons so you're gonna have to figure something else to tell him, and what does he do but tell him one of Zach's moons. And let's be real here, if Jonathan asks Zach for his moons, and Zach is honest with him, who's Jonathan gonna believe? The person who has literally no reason to lie to him, or the person who's screwed him over like 3 times in the last day? At this point I'm just gonna try to make sure when the world turns on Nathan, that I'm either in on it or not a victim of it. Cause it's gonna happen whether he sees it coming or not.
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First off: LMAO GET FUCKED TR*MP HAHAHAHA GOOD FUCKING RIDDANCE!!!! And now back to Survivor :) Whew last night was EVENTFUL! So the fucking moon challenge at first to me seemed kinda irrelevant, if someone lied it's fine it's a challenge. But after it was all over, I spoke strategically with MJ for the first time this game and damn did he have some grievances to air. He told me all about how Jonathan screwed everyone over in this challenge and if he's willing to do it for immunity, then he's not gonna be trustworthy later down the line. And it's wild to me because clearly Jonathan has enough connections to get him the win even if he didn't burn everyone. But now there's really no coming back for him. But back to my conversation with MJ. We agreed to work closely together to get to the end and I'm all for it. Well, idk if I really want MJ at f3, but I'm willing to act like I want to until like, f5 or something. So we have this long discussion and I bring up using Nathan as a shield for us, and MJ seems to like the idea. So after I get off call with MJ, I hop on call with Nathan and just relay that clearly Jonathan is untrustworthy, but I think it's in our best interest to work with MJ for now. He agrees, sets up a group with me him and MJ and we just talk all about how Jonathan is a clown, and since we can't take him out, Zoe is the next best idea. Which is kinda sad bc I love Zoe, we talk about weed and pokemon and communism and we just vibe. But unfortunately even tho I'd rather see Asya go bc we haven't talked very much, she doesn't seem to be much of an option this round. So after that conversation, I get on call with Jessie, we spill all the tea to each other. She tells me about Nathan's Trian Idol, even though Nathan already told me lmao. But she and I agree that Nathan is gonna be a huge threat to win if we let him get much further, so we want to take him out sometime before like, f5. The real gag of this game is that the NuTrian pairs aren't me and Cindi/Jessie and Nathan, but me and Jessie/Cindi and Nathan. But yeah that was my night and I'm feeling cautiously optimistic for this vote and the future of my game.
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confessional for this round I aint got shit to say I hope I get voted out tho 100 emoji! https://i.imgur.com/mh0tVdW.png
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So last tribal was wild and now it’s merge . Ten of us are left I need to figure out my path to make it to the end . I trust jay we had a really good game call late last night and I think we are on the same page . We will see how this tribal goes because I don’t think it will be as easy as everyone’s making it out to be Space cadet out
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I'm getting really weird vibes and I don't like it I think something really shady is going down. Apparently the target is on Nathan now according to Jules and Jonathan but things seem not that clear. The plan is MJ now? I dunno but at this point I feel like the votes are coming to me idk if I'm just paranoid or what but I don't like it
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ahhh im gonna kms bc there is like a 50% chance i'm going this round. jonathan won immunity which is great for him but that takes the target off his back and puts it onto mine. nathan cindi jay and jessie + zach are planning on voting for me while me, jonathon, mj, jules, and asya are going to vote for zach. however, it's theorized that zach has an automatic vote against him for the rocket ship which he claimed he found on an adventure, but probably didn't. that's an advantage to us, but nathan is planning on slashing jonathan's vote. so it'll be 5-5 me and zach, which will take us to a revote in which hopefully jay and cindi will flip so they don't have to go to rocks. if we have to go to rocks, that means i'm safe!! hopefully. many other things could happen, such a cindi and jay thinking we're going to blindside nathan and voting him instead of me, or nathan feeling comfy and not using his vote slasher. any way it could go, i'm nervous as FUCK. i dont want to go home!! i would be so sad :(
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So MJ just came to me and explained that it's Nathan leaving tonight. I told him I'd think on it and that I'd rather look out for myself than look out for Nathan. But the thing is, going with MJ and not with Nathan...it kinda fucks me. I trust MJ, but everyone else who's voting for Nathan??? Jonathan, Zoe, Jules, Asya?? I have no strategic relationship with Zoe, no relationship in general with Jules and Asya, and Jonathan is proven completely untrustworthy. While on the other side there's Nathan, Cindi, Zach, and Jessie, people who I've put my trust in on NuTrian, and with Zach he's been up front with me this whole round and I just like him more than most people in the game. And if I truly do want to look out for myself, I can't destroy all the relationships I've built throughout the whole game for people I met three days ago and have absolutely no strategic read on. Ultimately the only people who will feel especially burned by this are MJ and Jonathan, and if all goes to plan MJ won't be in the game anymore, and Jonathan is already not my biggest fan. Really thinking about it, the only people Nathan leaving benefits right now ARE MJ and Jonathan. Like I was all about working with MJ yesterday bc we were gonna vote Zoe and I felt comfortable with that and from there I was willing to take out Nathan. But MJ is trying to take the control here, bc if he does there's a good chance he never loses it.
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Dear Jonathan, Why would I vote out someone loyal to me when I get added to the plan last minute and you've had my name in your mouth all round? Did you not learn your lesson last round? I'm a better player than you. 
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Episode #10- “Is Cheatham actually high regularly or is it just a figment of his imagination?”- Sara
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that was such a HARD tribal for me. i loved having noah on my side and stuff but also i know he would be one of the ppl to make a big move on me if he stayed . its getting harder and harder for each vote . i just gotta stay focused and hope my alliance stays strong another round or two . tumblr survivor gods i hope your pulling for me!
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Austin and Vincent have to be testing me. I dont get why Austin is playing dumb with me or why he act like he didn't know. According to Vincent Austin was in on it. I mean regardless I know who Im just wanting to stick with but yeah, the weird jumped out. Cheatham is also saying this was a week or so then went MIA so thats cool
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Austin and Vincent are coming off super sketchy. I mean it is nothing new with Austin, but Vincent oof. I dont mind it all that much because of who I prefer to go with, but it is interesting. If these guys are coordinated then, well, seems uncoordinated
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So right now Austin, Cheatham, and Vincent have added me to a chat I guess to work together. I actually worry I am not Natalie Anderson, but Sierra Dawn Thomas Worlds Apart. Nonetheless, I think its smart for me to wait til F7 or so to make the move against Austin/Cheatham. I can't allow enough time to pass for the idol to bite me in my butt!
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I now see that Austin probably thinks he can manipulate me, so I have to time when I vote him perfectly. Him feigning ignorance on the Noah vote tells me he likely feels I'm naive enough to believe him and hey people do prefer to keep the ones around they feel are lesser than themselves!
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Ive had a change of heart- I think now Kyle is going to get dragged by people, however, I strongly believe he would choose me over anyone so its just a matter of navigating 6 tribals
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Inane ramblings from Vincent's cf, dated 3 AM on December 26, formatted terribly bc this cf is dated 3:06 AM on December 26: >i'm looking ahead to the future >austin is likely going to want liam out >bc when he said he wanted to make a move he'd have to mean one of them >them being liam/am/sara >and as far as i can tell liam is being perceived as the glue >so if he goes then am/sara become lone wolves who are easier to manipulate >however if liam stays then the other one, maybe am, is linked with them and they will be mad at austin for doing this >so those are numbers on our side >my previous boot order (EDITOR'S NOTE: never discussed in a cf, but will be discussed at length later) changed due to the unexpected development that austin is willing to flip on his group >however i'll note now that there is a very good chance he's faking >although if he is i can't imagine why he'd put his true allies in such blatant danger when kyle is literally right there as a vote >*person to vote >so let's say 5-3 vote up next >me/cheatham/austin/chris/kyle all against liam's trio >ideally voting out sara >bc she is the messiest and the one i trust least >my goal will be to convince the others that this is the best vote >liam and i are good and he is my decoy f2 >too early for goat stuff but am is a better goat than sara imo >just keeping my options open >liam/cheatham/annmarie could easily each be in my f2 >but not in a "ideal f4" way >so if austin is with me for this vote then he should at least appear to establish further connections with me >he can't do anything without one of chris and cheatham >or kyle i guess >kyle is easily the most expendable of those 3 >so to limit austin's options we need to vote kyle >we >my old boot order is more or less the same >just kyle vote goes from getting austin's trust back to weakening him >then at f6 cheatham chris and i stick together >vote out am unless liam becomes dark horse threat >f5 austin goes >f4 chris >f3 liam >then maybe i win >wow this seems so real >like usually in orgs when i'm at the merge im like'well maybe it's still possible that i could maybe end up at the ftc but lmao imagine getting votes' >oh no i'm becoming overconfident >wow meeting noah in jury again is going to be awkward huh No matter how I place this is honestly one of my better confessionals. Either full of dramatic irony and I look stupid or I win and I look good. One outcome is significantly more likely than the other, of course. But neither isn't so bad, is it?
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God I feel this challenge is gonna stir up so much shit! I just hope my target dont get bigger because of it.
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Where I stand now is that Austin is very willing to have Kyle go this round quote unquote, but what is to say he may not actually want somebody else? It is interesting seeing him discuss his perception and everything. I guess he cannot help but try to downplay himself, but I feel the ship has sailed for him and now it is only a matter of time. Watch him pull a W
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I can't wait for someone to get offended by this Touchy Subjects challenge. I know I won't. If anything, I'll just adapt with it! I also feel like now, it's important to see how AnnMarie and Sara handle things from here on out- either they're willing to try and go for Austin/Cheatham/Vincent, or they'll settle for Kyle. If this happens to go the way I think, I may end up as a potential swing in F7, but I sure as heck am not about to be like Miss Sarah Lacina Cop-Turned-Criminal in Cagayan. No Ma'am! I'm not ever feeling safe until I'm sitting in the Final 2
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So Austin asks me for a name and I am like ok I dont mind if it is Kyle unless you guys are up to do someone else. Austin proceeds to say he wants to have options and just wants a name and I'm. It really feels like a bit of a bait just to go to X to say I said their name. I could be wrong but its just weird becaise I haven't heard him say a name yet
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Austin! Do not think that Ive forgotten your leaky faucet ways! Like that's the odd thing about it- Austin has shown what he is capable of and it is just weird of him to press about this when I know he has lied to me before. Like right now I literally told him I am fine with anyone going and his response was to know who I actually want out. I really don't know what he wants me to say other than a name to implicate myself but nuh uh! Not I!
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The way it looks, I can make the move to get Liam out but I highly doubt I will last much longer. All it will take after that is to say Chris did X lets do him  and so I want to try and wait at least to chat to Kyle. I also want to see how willing AnnMarie and Sara are willing to talk about this vote instead of waiting. I definitely do not want Cheatham/Austin/Vincent all in F6 or at worse F5 however that is easier said than done for this lot
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Wowza, Cheatham is playing hard now. SO, basically the votes are supposed to go 6-2, Chris being voted out. Now I do not wanna go any further with Sara, AM, and Liam bc they will take out me and Austin first. So I talked with Chris and now there is a 4 person alliance with Austin, Me, Chris, and Vincent. Im going to use my idol on Chris and then Chris and Kyle will vote out one of the others. Kyle is a wild card and we don't wanna tell him EXACTLY what's going on because he is kinda crazy. So we are thinking about having Vincent vote with Chris to ensure that one of the others go home. This is yet again ANOTHER big move on my part. Im getting worried that people will think that I'm the biggest threat with MORE idols in my hand and doing all the big moves. All I can do is wait. If I keep winning individual immunity like this week then I'm golden.
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I think I've had an epiphany and it took talking to Cheatham to figure it out. Apparently I am the vote for tonight, though he wants to do something I've been wanting Cheatham to do in this merge and that is take advantage of the idol system- in doing so he gains a lot of leverage and I felt disppointed that he wasn't optimizing it. Having that said, I think I got a little sad because he told me people feel like I never give a name and truth be told I don't and it is a mistake on my end. I feel like I'm so scared to say a name because it failed miserably for me in the first half of this game and now that I don't do it anymore, people use it as a reason to vote me out. I do feel like its like I can't win with these people, but I want to change as much as I can to give myself a chance
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HI am seeing that Austin, Cheatham, and even Vincent legitimately want to work with me and so perhaps I should consider going with them. The question with this vote is how I do I go about it. I've already named Sara because I have the most reason to do her AND I know Austin/Cheatham lowkey wanted her so its a win win for all of us, but it would be interesting to split it if the idol were used on me. Regardless, I just want this to end greatly for me, be that new start to a Chris that has what it will take to make it to the end and win.
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I have...lots of questions right now... Am I being voted out tonight? Wouldn't surprise me. Does AnnMarie have a f2 w/ Austin? Cuz I accidentally caught her in something the other day where she told me she knew Austin was asking others for finals. But it might have been an accident because I mentioned that Austin asked for us 2 in a f3 with him....never said f2. Is Cheatham actually high regularly or is it just a figment of his imagination? Why do people get weird and quiet when they're planning a blindside or change loyalties? I literally brought this up to Liam last night a while after results. Gwen/Rizo/Chris did this exact same thing. It's Survivor. Lie and make a move if you have to. I'd respect that a whole lot more. Ignoring people is just shit jury management and I'll totally call Cheatham out at tribal now if I go! At least Vincent gave me an ANSWER! *Giggle* And also...is Austin actually that nice or is it game? Cuz I lit dunno if I'll ever be able to write his name down if that's really his personality. x)
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Cheatham wants to invent a situation in which he would play his idol and gain full access to two others. This really feels like a resume padding thing more than a legitimate move out of necessity, because we have the numbers to vote out our target now, and there's no reason that would change any time soon. To me, this solidifies that Cheatham really can't make it to the end, just like Austin. Ideally I want to be able to choose between Liam and Chris because I think I have an ok shot against them both, and it's reasonable for both of them to make it very far. Of course it's the final 8 so it's still way too early to think about the end, but I definitely can't take Austin or Cheatham with me bc they both have a good shot at winning against me.
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Sara me and Liam are apparently a strong group so there are plans to usurp our place on the throne! I'm watching a documentary about Queen Elizabeth while writing this. Cheatham apparently wants us gone as well, which hurts. I thought he was with me. I guess not. That is all.
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So this round is insane, originally it was gonna be Chris but apparently Cheatham is gonna idol him so we’re having to take out the biggest goat in this game, which is so annoying, but if it must be done to save Sara so I have a shot at making it to the end then so be it. There’s still so much game to play so I need to make the most outta it.
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5 votes Kyle (w/ self-vote), 2 votes Sara, 1 vote Chris (negated by idol.)
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