#maybe he'd have gotten some therapy and taken responsibility since the main consequence would've been social

[luna-is-out-there]

So many folks on here are from a country that's decided to rely on deterrence theory in criminal justice, but to most people that has just turned into "people deserve punishment if they break a rule", and combined with slavery being a legal thing to do with prisoners, as well as taking away their ability to live normal lives after prison (not to mention the state of the working class and their not being treated as people with needs that matter, plus unionbashing), you live in a place where it's become normal for humans to be disposable. Rehabilitation is a foreign concept. Of course you're all scared of doing anything anyone might perceive as wrong. All your society knows to do when someone makes a mistake is put them in a cage for the rest of their lives, hiding the problem for a couple of decades, of course it's difficult to be a person!

Some magical countries out there try a rehabilitative theory of criminal justice. I think it helps to know that if you were ever to fuck up in some way, what would happen is that you'd get help to figure out how to not fuck up again, and society would work on reparations for victims where possible. Your life isn't forfeit. That makes having healthy discussions about change and responsibility feel very different, because responsibility doesn't mean you get the electric chair if you step out of line, it means maybe you'll have to get therapy and study while confined in a place that's frankly better than most student housing nowadays. The punishment isn't the point.

Anyway, my point is that I think this influences internet behavioral patterns a lot. I think this is why some of us react to bad things by unfollowing, and others try to crucify and prosecute individuals. Fundamental cultural differences in perception of justice.

#I just watched a retrospective about Tobuscus #that man could've really used some sort of rehabilitation instead of just crumbling in on himself #he apparently became afraid of being a person? #his career was also ruined #that wasn't up to him or his exes #I'm just thinking if that happened in my country he'd just have a different job now and be fine #maybe he'd have gotten some therapy and taken responsibility since the main consequence would've been social #but you can't do that where he lives #either you're fine or you're a monster who's about to be dead forever #Idk I guess I just expected more than “man fucks up in his drug addled 20s” after not having seen a thing for eight years #He's not even become republican in the meantime he's just stuck and unhappy and not sure how to move on because hes afraid of being a person #He's clearly learned several lessons and has changed his behavior #He just never got over the fear #and I (as a victim of things like what he did) don't think that's justice. I think that stuff divides us in ways that prevent rehabilitation #and I think that the point of justice should be reparation and rehabilitation – since slavery should not be the point. #being taught that if you're bad you go away is a fucked up thing to do to generations.