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#it's a good movie and Zira's death is chilling
dragontamer05 · 4 years
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You want a dark Disney death.
Zira from Lion King 2. Her death wasn’t just another regular slip and fall death,nah. She straight up committed suicide, letting go of the rock/cliff an letting her self fall to the river of water below.
They just edited it slightly in the final version of the movie so you go from Zira swiping at Kiara’s paw and slipping to falling because they realized or at least thought actually showing her physically let go and essentially kill herself was kind maybe a bit to dark for kids. Which is also why if you look at her while she’s falling it basically looks like she’s smiling/laughing (and you know not terrified that she’s falling)
Also there’s a line of her going “No, never.” before she lets go. And quite honestly the scene is chilling.
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Here’s a surprisingly decently animated attempt at putting in the deleted scene. The second video is that actual deleted scene.
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vampiremeerkat · 5 years
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Are there any villains who should have won in your opinion?
The majority of (Disney) villains don’t have good plans for their surroundings, even if their evil is the result of a tragedy or unfair treatment from the heroes. Villains like Maleficent, Zira, and Hades are not deserving of a victory because of this reason, though the question is if they were ever good people.I think Cinderella 3 and Beauty and the Beast could’ve made it work, though I prefer their original ending.In Cinderella 3, Anastasia should’ve gotten the prince. These two spent infinitely more time together than he and Cinderella ever did. That he was brainwashed into believing Anastasia was the girl he danced with at the ball doesn’t change this.Disney made up this “spark” excuse in the movie, basically so they could justify why the pretty prince would only date the pretty Cinderella. They know very well that she wouldn’t have gotten a happy ending with this man if she had Anastasia’s face. Her personality never mattered, he only approached her because she was wearing a nice dress.This movie makes me hungry for a romantic Disney movie starring an unattractive prince and/or princess.But well, it’s not fair to blame Disney for this, their business is to adapt old fairy tales; the main characters there are always attractive or become attractive later on as some kind of reward to the love interest.In Beauty and the Beast, Gaston is portrayed as a stereotypical manly man who can’t handle rejection and is dubbed a bad person because of it, yet the movie glances over the beast. Did this hairball not imprison a woman with the desire in mind she’d be the one to break his curse? That’s not a good base for a relationship.Whatever Gaston did in the movie, the beast did worse.   
Gaston aggressively flirted with Belle - while the beast was aggressively aggressive towards Belle. He could’ve knocked her head clean off in that rose chamber scene.   
Gaston wanted to put Belle’s father in an asylum and requested her love in exchange for his freedom - while the beast would’ve flat out killed the old man if she hadn’t shown up in time.. whereafter her father was again used as a trade object.I’ll make a bold statement and say the beast would’ve eaten him in addition to letting him freeze to death. The left-over carcasses in the west wing say enough about what his state of mind was at the time.
Gaston refused to hear out Belle, and locked her up before leaving to kill the beast - while the beast imprisoned Belle for months and tried to emotionally manipulate this female stranger into romantically considering him by giving her a pleasant stay. With help of his desperate servants. Even if he ended up liking her and setting her free, this was the plan.
Gaston was the beast before the beast was the beast. There’s no reason to believe Belle couldn’t have changed him too, but he was not given the chance. The unfavourable description of him that she gave to her father fully matches that of the prince she ended up falling for, and I can’t say if this irony was intentional. But why did she find this asshole worthy and not the other asshole? She didn’t. The difference is that the beast gave Belle no choice but to deal with him. Even Gaston went back home at the end of the day.The way Belle rejected the beast’s first attempts of “hospitality” were strong and to the point, and she should’ve used the same force towards Gaston, who was only ever given a “Gaston! I’m speechless, lol! I’m not worthy of your massive cock!“.Belle needed to tell him what she told her father in private; that he isn’t her type. Or at the least that she disliked his behaviour. The same thing she let the beast know after he saved her from the wolves.Her words should’ve impacted Gaston, as he cared when she became upset over him and Lefou ridiculing her father. Why would he care if he’s a villain? Even if his care lasted for 3 seconds?Gaston’s personality and actions are hardly that of a villain. Upon meeting him, the audience doesn’t like him because humans today are nothing like the people in Belle’s village, and the past makes us shake our heads. They’re cartoon characters, but still based on human mentality that used to exist. And still exists in some countries.Gaston and the townspeople were honestly convinced Belle’s father was crazy, they didn’t just say that to hurt him and Belle. That Gaston used him as a bargaining chip to get Belle’s hand is disgusting, but her father would’ve been locked up years prior if the town didn’t enjoy his “insanity” so much. How often each day does Belle’s house explode?Gaston’s jealousy over the way Belle complimented the beast is also less than charming, but to see the image of a roaring bear-thing wouldn’t convince old-timey townsfolk of its kindness. Didn’t people get burned for witchcraft in that time period, still? They’ve been rather gracious towards Belle and her unexplained magic mirror. And their quest to kill a giant unknown creature inside a cursed castle with living furniture is far from strange.Everything Gaston did was to make Belle his wife and that by itself is a tragedy. He had three busty blondes spreading it for him, but he was obsessed with the one person in the village who happened to want nothing to do with him. To me, Gaston hasn’t shown himself to be more unhinged than the beast; even at the end you could argue that the only reason the beast didn’t drop him off the roof was because Belle had given him his humanity back. And I ask again, could the same not have been done for Gaston?Like the beast, prince Adam, he’s a self-absorbed douche who’s always been surrounded by people who grovelled at his feet. He didn’t know any better and needed a Belle in his life to tell him to chill.So far my report.
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