#dew and sal are like... a side story. in the 80s universe. it's what jack's doing while he's gone from edgar's life

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experiencing a brief moment of panic because I've forgotten how to draw Jack and they keep coming out ULTRA jank

#rox rumblings #me things #please i just. i just want to draw them so i can reference their features for sal #i wanna have good refs for 80s dew and sal now that i have a good ref for sane dew #dew and sal are like... a side story. in the 80s universe. it's what jack's doing while he's gone from edgar's life #he accidentally (and unknowingly) knocks up a prosititute he's in a fucked up relationship with (dew) and she eventually flees #jack spends the rest of his time hunting her down and he is NOT happy that he has a child. #cue 'bad bad things' by ajj. that song is just musical interpretation of what happens #dew begs him not to hurt sal and jack doesn't listen #and eventually edgar finds two new ghost friends... 'friends' heavy on the 'friends' dew is very cautious abt him #anyway i love sal. sane universe her goes on to become an activist bc ben and i think her having THE most problematic parents is funny #jack and dew say slurs and their opinions are atrocious and it's very funny #sal's a good girl though... she's besties with tommy since they're similar ages in the sane universe

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so you want to know the lore, huh?

(part 1 of ???)

there will be discussions of things like abuse, child abuse, child neglect, domestic abuse, child murder, homicide, self-harm, and torture; these are all mentioned briefly and not further elaborated on, but are still integral parts of the 80s universe, ESPECIALLY with Chuck. you have been warned.

I have my own universes comprised of ONLY my characters, but let's start with the gang I share with Ben first.

it's the same cast of characters (minus a few side characters essentially) for what I call the Sane/Modern and 80s universes.

the 80s universe is split into two subsections: a story where Elijah is the main killer we focus on and Jack died young, and a story where Jack is the main killer and Elijah died young. I'll go into further detail about the differences between the two in a later post with Ben's help, but all you need to know right now is that I'm usually talking about the story where Jack is the serial killer, aka Jack's universe, because the two main characters (Edgar and Jack) both belong to me. here's the rundown on Jack's universe:

Jack has a total of 15 murder victims that we focus on, them being his twin Eli, his little sister Maddison, his older sister Hannah, his father, Olivia, Leah, Beth, Owen, Alexa, Mason, Jiang, Jun, Noah, Dew, and his son Sal

11/15 are ghosts that possess the home Edgar lives in because that was Jack's dumping grounds for the bodies

Edgar's home used to be Jack's childhood home that Jack burnt down (that's how he got the burn scars and extreme fear of fire)

Eddie and Jack met when Eddie was 18 and Jack was 16, 2 years after Eddie came from France to America

Jack is a very very very abusive partner to Eddie (and later Dew, who dies because she had a son without him knowing)

Isaac, the only biological family of Jack's that isn't dead, was traumatized by the death of the rest of his family and subsequently seeing Jack's (15) half-burned body and dead stare in the hospital

Isaac (8) went on to be raised by his dad alone, Jack's step-dad

Jack disappears after this incident and goes under a new name, Chuck Young

Edgar finds out about the whole murder thing sometime before Isaac and Noah pop up

Isaac and Noah enter Eddie's life and red flags go off in their head when they see Jack and Eddie together

Jack eventually disappears (which is normal for him) and doesn't return for years, leaving Eddie to slowly start to rebuild after the trauma and fall in love with Isaac and Noah, believing that Jack's dead

Isaac and Noah find out about the ghosts, Isaac is horribly confused and upset and joyful to see his sisters again

Isaac and Noah proceed to become father figures to the ghosts as they get closer and closer with Eddie

Jack murders Dew and Sal and returns to Eddie's home, where he ends up killing Noah in an altercation

Isaac, terrified of his brother, flees

Edgar is forced to pick up the pieces and deal with Jack for the next several years

Eddie eventually kills Jack in "self-defense" and has a breakdown immediately after

Isaac returns since Jack has been killed

the ghosts slowly fade away and move on

story ends when Edgar dies

the modern universe is predicated on the concept of "what if Jack and Elijah were normal people and didn't commit serial killings?" the 80s universe is definitely the more fleshed out of the two, given it's been worked on for nearly a decade now. here's the rundown of the sane universe:

set in the modern era

primarily follows the Robinson-Nhat family (which I call the Le Family because of Jack, Eli, Hannah, Mads, and Isaac's mother's maiden name; Maddie and Isaac are full siblings to each other but half-siblings to the other 3)

nobody is dead!!

everybody is younger and has birthdates to match

Isaac and Edgar are usually best friends

Elijah is less "school shooter" and more "edgy young adult who thinks listening to MCR makes him unique"

here's a helpful guide to illustrate the differences (and similiarities) between Modern Jack and 80s Jack!

Jack is less "extreme sadist who commits prolonged torture for his enjoyment and actively searched for new ways to kill" and more "dude who robs people and loves his family"

is more of a sandbox for ideas than anything super story-based

a big theme of Jack's story in both cases is the cycle of abuse. modern him fights to stop it, and 80s him eventually ends up so, so much worse than his father ever was.

that concludes part 1.

link to part 2

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