#but yeah the story can get confusing because of military and political talk unless you're good with those

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are the avengers cops? how does any of this works comics are so confusing

are the avengers cops ; no. at least, not originally, and not really until 9/11, but then I would argue that the majority of superhero teams including the xmen have fed into propaganda for the military since 9/11. before that though, the avengers were really not cops; they all actively hate and resent the government agent henry gyrich who is supposed to be their overseer, i mean, vision, Wanda, Beast, and im pretty sure sam all physically wanted to beat the shit out of him. in one issue of the avengers, beast says to simon williams while flying to help some russian people "there's no american before our name". Vision was often used to discuss minority politics under comics code authority, as was Wanda.

after 9/11, they have become much more militarised, I'll admit that, but again, I'd argue that also applies to the Justice League or anyone else. But that definitely isn't reflective of the Avengers as a whole and dismissing them as cops or feds is just dumb because various avengers characters have actively had stories about the corruption of the military and the police force and police violence or police apathy; similarly, the xmen became cops during x-treme x-men, so you can't really claim one team to be one way and make excuses for another.

And yeah, it's a problem... I don't want to say it's exclusive to xmen fans but I'll be honest, I haven't seen comic Avengers fans or comic FF fans or comic GOTG or Inhumans or whatever fans act the same way in the same volume; you might get the odd person making fun of the X-Men but they are few and in between. And I like the X-Men; Armando Muñoz is one of my fave characters who I am constantly starved for content of, and Ororo and Kurt and the rest go without saying as being great characters. But there's just this weird like... inate anger towards the Avengers, the Fantastic Four, for some reason and I don't know why? I mean, I mostly blame those podcasts ( you know who ) who constantly make excuses for like... bodysnatcher betsy but the avengers all get painted with the cop brush and are just not discussed unless to clown on them. Which is fine, but then dont act like you have zero influence on fandom perceptions of these characters 😭

Anyway, genuinely, there should be more willingness to be just apathetic. Like, if you haven't read the FF, you can just say oh , they're not my thing, you don't need to talk about how Reed Richards is anti-mutant and a cop and has personally murdered your mother, like cmon 😭 again, I'm sure fans of other comic teams are also guilty of this, but it is by large a phenomenon in x-men circles and it's annoying because it kind of keeps me from reaching out to other fans, like I actually LIKE these guys but if you're also telling me how much these other characters that I'm really passionate about suck ass then I don't want to interact with you! I stop feeling passionate about these characters because I feel like everyone who likes them vehemently hates the other guys I'm into! It's just disheartening a lot of the time for people with eggs in more than one basket I think.

But there are plenty comic communities that are okay, I mean, I'm having a pretty good time on the small ant-man fandom! By nature of how divisive Hank is, a lot of people are already used to people having other opinions so it's mostly chill, and there are a few discords I'm part of that are nice and chill! It's just sort of hard to find them, especially on twitter, beyond like, a few FF fans and the very small comic Scarletvision fandom everyone there is so aggressive it's not a fun time 😭 keep searching tho anon, there are good communities out there! Just hard to find through the qrts of the official marvel account sudjdndbhffh

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