#but in-universe all you've done is fucking murder a teenager whose biggest crime is being kind of obnoxious

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'Kris being an outcast who likes freaking people out means they must be a Bad Person™️ and thus taking their free will and piloting them like a puppet is actually Good™️ morally speaking'

How about I eat your skin how bout that

#the lack of nuance people address Kris with makes me want to bite things every day #also they are LITERALLY A TEENAGER who as far as we know is JUST A BIT WEIRD #tho I think part of it may be a purposeful commentary on how we treat characters vs real people even in a story we buy in2 very genuinely #bc certain traits both behavioral and physical- when observed in the context of a story- set Villain Flags mentally #whereas irl the same actions or things would be considered (fairly) innocuous #or at least not judged on such a concious unabashed definite level #I think its similar with Berdly how every1 is like 'this bitch annoying can we please kill him' #and then in Snowgrave you fucking DO- wish granted #but in-universe all you've done is fucking murder a teenager whose biggest crime is being kind of obnoxious #even with a universe you're invested in and where you care a lot about the characters #your role as a player/observer taking on the identity of someone in that world- no matter how immersed you get- #is still fundamentally different from how things are viewed in-universe #because you are still reacting to things as you would a story while characters are applying the standards of what to them is real life #EVEN WHEN you buy into the fiction that the characters are meant to be concious beings who you the player r interacting with thru the game #not that this is necessarily a 'bad thing' but ut and it seems dr are works abt exploring our relationship to fiction and its characters #and about how much we think we empathize with them but also treat them in a way we'd never treat people #but yea the amount of ppl I see saying Kris is EEEEEEVIL bc they have red eyes and like knives and steal pie #and because they don't seem to want to stick to the script the story has laid out for them #and how them being EEEEEVIL or even just Not Vewy Nice :( makes taking over their body not AT LEAST morally questionable #is infuriating #maybe bc they don't want to deal w the fact that we as a player are participating directly in their suffering #if not the entire cause of it/the person its for in the first place #and like I get it that sucks and I feel bad thinking abt it too but I think thats kinda the point #the victim doesn't have to be perfect or likeable or even a good person for their suffering to matter and be fucked up #but that rationale is very commonly used in stories to dismiss/diminish/justify morally troubling actions #and tbh I think that one is used for how people treat real-life narratives as well to some degree #ok bye #Deltarune #kris dreemurr